RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 15] [N_taii]

[N_taii]

There is a sequence break if you talk to the duke for the first time, and then do Magic Man's package delivery quest near the tavern. That skips the delivering of artifacts from him and the main quest seems to get broken.

Also, deleting a save from in-game doesn't seem to be working right.

Hello! Could you give me a bit more details on the bug? So you were at the stage in Lily's 1st quest where you had to deliver a package, but instead youwent to speak with the Duke and that broke the quest? When you say "spoke with the duke for the 1st time", what do you mean exactly?
As for the delete save bug, I've been made aware of it a while ago, but it appears to be clashing with a plugin made especially for HC3 to improve performances, and the person who made the plugin doesn't seem to be available anymore unfortunately (and I have no coding skills, so I can't really fix it myself). For now, I suggest you delete saves directly from the game files, I know this is working.

 

[desmosome]

Hello! Could you give me a bit more details on the bug? So you were at the stage in Lily's 1st quest where you had to deliver a package, but instead youwent to speak with the Duke and that broke the quest? When you say "spoke with the duke for the 1st time", what do you mean exactly?
As for the delete save bug, I've been made aware of it a while ago, but it appears to be clashing with a plugin made especially for HC3 to improve performances, and the person who made the plugin doesn't seem to be available anymore unfortunately (and I have no coding skills, so I can't really fix it myself). For now, I suggest you delete saves directly from the game files, I know this is working.

When you have to see the magic man in front of your house to recieve the orbs. If instead, you go pick up the package by the tavern for Lily's quest, it will skip time to night and bypass the artifacts and hang the main quest. I'm not sure if looping back to the same day will continue the quest, but there is the issue with the quest log not mentioning the part where you have to recieve the artifacts from the magic man. It just tells you to exit via north gate to recieve the medal.

 

[N_taii]

When you have to see the magic man in front of your house to recieve the orbs. If instead, you go pick up the package by the tavern for Lily's quest, it will skip time to night and bypass the artifacts and hang the main quest. I'm not sure if looping back to the same day will continue the quest, but there is the issue with the quest log not mentioning the part where you have to recieve the artifacts from the magic man. It just tells you to exit via north gate to recieve the medal.

I see. I'll look into it. Thanks for the report : )

 

[baneini]

Still theres the issue of silent protag. Whenever he's not on display the dialogue flows normally and makes sense. Then comes the mc, fucks everything up and makes the dialogue annoying to read. What a shame.

 

[N_taii]

because nothing in the game indicates where to go beyond the quest tracker. so you end up repeating days and actions.

Honestly, I'm wondering what more one could need besides a quest tracker that tells players the exact time and place where they should be to progress the quest.

Going to King's Square was the end of the previous update, so you should be able to progress further. Someone a few comments up had an issue where they progressed two quests simultaneously in a way that I hadn't foreseen, which made them skip a step that should have been unskippable. Did you talk with Nezar, the magic shop owner, on Wedath morning in front of the MC's apartment, which in turn made the orbs appear in the MC's room?

 

[LordFrz]

this is why i don't like RPGM, always issues where there is a game breaking bug, never fails in every RPGM I played, and the bigger problem is you usually can't tell if you're stupid, or if it's a bug, because nothing in the game indicates where to go beyond the quest tracker. so you end up repeating days and actions.

Thats less of an RPGM issue and more that you are playing an unfinished in-development game. And if you cant go through that exit you might not have the latest version.

 

[Matoga]

the bigger problem is you usually can't tell if you're stupid, or if it's a bug, because nothing in the game indicates where to go beyond the quest tracker. so you end up repeating days and actions.

right now i can't continue Uncertain Times, quest 9: Go to the kings square on Soldath morning, leave the district through the north exit... is this the end of the update? or is the game broken? who knows, not me...

When you reach the end of each Update, the game will shove this message in your face.


Not only that, if you (for some reason) miss this message, like spamming CTRL throughout the game and just blowing past the warning, the quest tracker will tell you that you can't go any further in the story for now by saying that your next quest is a WIP (Work in Progress). If you don't see these then you're simply just stuck on a quest and for that, there is a Walkthrough in the game folder for you. I find it highly unlikely that the game is broken but it is possible i suppose so...


Also, with the quest tracker that tells you the time and place combined with the question mark on the ground that indicates the EXACT location where you need to be standing in order to start the event, no one should have any problem progressing through the game. The only thing i could think of that could make it any easier for you would be a golden trail like the one in Fable that starts beneath your feet and ends where you need to be, but that's just...

 

[desmosome]

Honestly, I'm wondering what more one could need besides a quest tracker that tells players the exact time and place where they should be to progress the quest.

Going to King's Square was the end of the previous update, so you should be able to progress further. Someone a few comments up had an issue where they progressed two quests simultaneously in a way that I hadn't foreseen, which made them skip a step that should have been unskippable. Did you talk with Nezar, the magic shop owner, on Wedath morning in front of the MC's apartment, which in turn made the orbs appear in the MC's room?

I think we're looking at a situation where forced advancement of time in one quest could mess with another quest. Normally, I guess it shouldn't be a problem because you could sleep and wake up in the required day to continue the quest (probably). In this case, the quest tracker doesn't tell you about receiving the orbs, which is a required step.

Personally, I prefer to play these types of games in a way that preserves immersion when possible. If the MC came back from the monster expedition, he is gonna go hang out with his friends and family sooner rather than later. That means doing their quests as soon as it becomes available which leads to having simultaneous quests going at once. And within those quests, there are also "time sensitive" events where someone expects you to do something that day and not one week later after looping around.

I know that this is a case of QoL and convenience features winning out over immersion, but maybe how well the quests play together (mechanically and story-wise) is something you can keep in the back of your mind when designing them.

 

[N_taii]

it's probably a progression issue, but i can't recall what quests or events i did in what order, i can always give you my save files though. i think i talked to lucy and also was doing C's quests (forget her name, the guard woman quest, simultaneously). As soon as the game became sandboxed is when the problems started. My understanding is now i can go anywhere and do anything in any order and it would work fine...

I wouldn't mind the save files, so I can see what's wrong.

 

[desmosome]

Based on the Duke's internal monologues, it seems pretty likely that the Queen is dead, but it would be pretty awesome if she was actually captured and being trained somewhere. After her fall, the princess finding out her mom also became a cum dump would be super hot.

 

[Kookie]

I had a similar problem where I could not go north to king's square during Quest 9. I did Lily's and Haylen's side quests in between the main quests when talking to the magic shop guy, which I think broke the sequence a bit. I was able to fix it once I figured out that I never got the tracking orbs from the magic guy even though the quest tracker states to go north to king's square. I just had to skip to the right day (can't remember which one) and talk to the magic shop guy outside my apartment and got the tracking orbs. After that I was able to progress with the main story. Don't know if you have the same problem but this could be a potential solution.

 

[rvn88]

any news on update 3 ?

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

More corruption stages (we already know that there will be 4-5+ changes/stages in clothing). Those will also effect the CGs of the heroines

Thats a thing? Hell yeah.

Changes in clothing is one of my most loved features in corruption games. Sadly it is not that much utilized because it is more work. Especially if you have lets say 2-3 costumes and then add variations ect.

Anyway I play here and there through the first game and to be honest it is pretty rough. Granted its the first game in the series so I shouldnt judge so harshly. Looking forward to play the second entry.

 

[Aeri Rerum]

How do you update the game? Back up save files and reinstall, putting saves in the right spot?

 

[Matoga]

How do you update the game? Back up save files and reinstall, putting saves in the right spot?

You just simply extract the new Update into the folder where the previous one is located and then overwrite everything, your saves will be fine as well

 

[N_taii]

Yeah, like I literally have zero clue what you are talking about. I changed to every day, every time, and there is no magic guy, or not even an ordinary guy outside my apartment... as in right outside it.

I just checked, and I found him right outside the door on Wedath morning. It's possible the MC's sprite was right on top of him, so you didn't see him (since you weren't supposed to go inside your apartment without talking to him first, I didn't really take into consideration the MC being right on top of him when going outside).
I have added more indications in the quest log + fixed being able to bypass him when doing Lily's 1st quest. It should be properly fixed for next version.

 

[LordFrz]

I would really prefer waiting 2 months for stable free version than getting a free version immediately

Yea, but no matter what the dev decides to do someone will complain. Look at a game like Satisfy Him, the dev decided to rewrite the code to make it work better while his artist was unavailable for a while. And even though he regularly updates his discord an patreon of status and progress, here the thread is full of people claiming the game is dead and dev is mia.

Ultimately if you don't want to deal with any issues your bet best is to wait for the game to be fully completed. And issues you find in rpgm show up in non rpgm games too. Definitely frustrating so I get the annoyance.

 

[Vanilla099]

thx

 

[Prince of Depression]

Sgt. Alys fall in love with Leto too? Dawn, our protag is a magnet for ladies. But, to his own grief, he also draws in ntr bastards like Duke.

 

[Callandor]

Am I remembering correctly or did I just dream up that the poster on the first page featuring the heroines will change as the game progresses in updates?