RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 16] [N_taii]

[N_taii]

I think the problem right now is that most players won't check the character bio page after every single quest. But if you don't check it regulary you can easily miss it, which can be quite tedious at times.
I suggested using NPCs to give us players these hints.
The advantage over a system massage would be better immersion. You find these hints while you play instead of looking in the menu for it or getting a dev-message on screen. Another reason to keep an eye even on the most useless seeming Npc. You could find/hear interesting things anywhere.
On the other hand the player still has to look for it (unless the Npcs are part of the questline) and may miss it. Maybe the majority prefers a direct notification over the immersion/freeroam part.

Actually, I find that having NPCs mentioning game functions might be even more immersion-breaking, as they're supposed to be part of the world and then suddenly the bring up "character screen" in the middle of the conversation^^ Imagine you're eating in a restaurant and the server comes up and tells you to press B to bring up the menu : ) I suppose pop-ups would be the better option all things considered.

I think it could also work if the seed is planted early on that other parts of their bio pages can change throughout the course of the game, such as giving each girl a descriptive "title" of some sort that becomes more sexualized with each time their character art is updated, or having the description shift to reflect things that Leto is starting to notice about them.

(On that note, I should probably take the opportunity to mention that I did notice a typo for Rose's page — "Princess and heir to the trone of the island of Nos'Ra")

Yeah, I wish I had an easier-to-use character screen to update the text, but for now, it's kind of difficult due to the text box being really, really small and limited.
Thanks about the typo, fixed!

Actually now that i've though about it, November is 7 months away, no Update in September so that would make it 6 Updates, but since the Updates are never exacly 1 months away from each other because there's always a week or so delay, let's go with 5 so that would mean Update 10 comes out in November best case scenario...i don't know, that seems a bit too early for the denial phase to kick in, let's go with:

"Damn, with the speed at which the story is going, we'll be lucky to reach this point by next February. "

Yes, but at least we'll get there!^^ Don't be in a hurry, young padawan, for it is better to look forward to something than feel empty once it has passed.

N_taii meow :3 ?

Well, meow to you too, kind sir/madam.

 

[N_taii]

there's a bug where i can move the camera in a cutscene and there is no dialogue box. I have to load a save everytime

What scene might be the problem?

 

[abgazil]

Actually, I find that having NPCs mentioning game functions might be even more immersion-breaking, as they're supposed to be part of the world and then suddenly the bring up "character screen" in the middle of the conversation^^ Imagine you're eating in a restaurant and the server comes up and tells you to press B to bring up the menu : ) I suppose pop-ups would be the better option all things considered.


Yeah, I wish I had an easier-to-use character screen to update the text, but for now, it's kind of difficult due to the text box being really, really small and limited.
Thanks about the typo, fixed!


Yes, but at least we'll get there!^^ Don't be in a hurry, young padawan, for it is better to look forward to something than feel empty once it has passed.


Well, meow to you too, kind sir/madam.

Also, at least for me personally, seeing a message that 'something has changed' with one of the girls can be pretty hot in and of itself. It adds to the sense that things are progressing out of the MCs control

 

[Racoon_4]

Actually, I find that having NPCs mentioning game functions might be even more immersion-breaking, as they're supposed to be part of the world and then suddenly the bring up "character screen" in the middle of the conversation^^ Imagine you're eating in a restaurant and the server comes up and tells you to press B to bring up the menu : ) I suppose pop-ups would be the better option all things considered.

What i was trying to say was that if you talk to a certain npc at the church you will hear something like "Have you seen how Haylen has changed recently?"
Or for Cyanna some npc looking at her when she's patrolling "No wonder the monsters can do whatever they want, just look how the guards are dressing nowadays".
And then you as the player knows that the bio page has been updated.

Well i'm confident that you will find a nice way, as pretty much as always ^^

 

[Matoga]

What i was trying to say was that if you talk to a certain npc at the church you will hear something like "Have you seen how Haylen has changed recently?"
Or for Cyanna some npc looking at her when she's patrolling "No wonder the monsters can do whatever they want, just look how the guards are dressing nowadays".
And then you as the player knows that the bio page has been updated.

The idea itself is okay and it's great RP but that's purely based on dumb luck, you can miss it just as easily as the outfit change itself in the character screen menu because not everyone's gonna speak to every single NPC after every quest that they do. Also, the only purpose these NPC's would have is to remind the player of the character screen menu but if you were to look for these NPC's intentionally that would already mean that you are aware of it therefore it would defeat it's purpose.

Actually, I find that having NPCs mentioning game functions might be even more immersion-breaking, as they're supposed to be part of the world and then suddenly the bring up "character screen" in the middle of the conversation^^ Imagine you're eating in a restaurant and the server comes up and tells you to press B to bring up the menu : ) I suppose pop-ups would be the better option all things considered.

The best immersion is what we have right now, which is nothing, since the menu itself doesn't really exist for the characters in the game, it's only for the player. Sure it sucks if you miss it, but if you save your game every once in a while and you don't overwrite your previous ones, then you can go back and see them whenever you remember that they exist. If we're getting a notification of some sort no matter what, then a message that pops up after finishing a quest that simply says "Rose's outfit has been changed/altered in the character screen menu" or just a short "The Character Screen Menu has been Updated" is perfectly fine for me, i don't see how that would ruin anyone's immersion. Although i gotta admit, it's pretty hard to ruin immersion for me, even if you added a duck that starts flying and yelling above Leto's head whenever there is something new in the Character Screen Menu, i wouldn't mind at all.

 

[Matoga]

You know what you should do ? You should add an NPC that acts just like the messenger from Skyrim, no matter where you go or what you do, he's chasing after you until you speak to him even during main story cutscenes. You're dancing with Rose during the ball and this guy is just walking behind you trying to tell you that Lily's got a new Outfit and when you finally do give him a moment of your time, he just simply hands you a letter that says something like "NEW PORTRAITS IN THE CHARACTER SCREEN MENU!" and then he simply fucks off to Timbuktu.

 

[Matoga]

I actually have an idea that could work, it's much more complex than a simple pop-up, but i think it could be worth it. You should add an NPC to the game who's a perverse painter and is good friends with Leto, and make it so that he's the one who does the portraits for the girls. Whenever you go to sleep for the first time after there was a portrait change in the Character Screen, the next morning when you wake up there's a knock on your door and this guy just gives you the new portrait(s), or istead of him coming over, there's a letter in front of your door that was sent by this guy and he's inviting you to his place because he wants to show you his latest "work", that would also give you a sort of recollectiom room where you can put the previous portraits so players can view them whenever they want to. You could even skip the whole "adding an NPC to the game" and just set up some lore for him, somehing like "he was your friend in the academy but he dropped out and decided to become a painter, so he left the island for fame and glory but occasionally he sends you some of his most recent work". Although i'm pretty sure recieving paintings of your girlfriend and stepmother in lingerie is a form of bullying, i still think it could work.

 

[Neolet]

What scene might be the problem?

lundath morning. Cyanna's scene in the military hq

 

[Virgin Girl]

the game have any guide ?

 

[Racoon_4]

the game have any guide ?

Yeah look into the game folder, there is a guide/walkthrough.


Back to the character bio page. It's actually rather funny how much i think about it. I mean sure it could (somehow) be even better but after everything is said and done it's a rather small issue, isn't it? ^^
That said, how about installing a place to enter the character bio pages in Letos room?
We have the 4 crystal orbs, the recollection room and 1 or two other things to interact with. It could be possible to add another point in some corner. Whenever the player wants to know if something new has come up, we can check it out there.

 

[LexiTV]

Played it a bit... wanted to review it... decided against it. This is so popular and most people are so thankful and think is a hidden gem in the genre.
I just don't get it (no sarcasm I really am confused as hell) and therefore do not bother to review it.
It is a shitton of text and entirely story based. >>> Not a problem. The problem for me is I can't help but feel so frustrated because I have to endure a story that makes absolutely no sense in my opinion. It feels like torture for me (not because of the NTR aspect but because the mc is like a doll and the player has really no real influence over anything).
Apparently I am nearly the only one who dislikes the story so I will not review it.

But I keep wondering:

This world is insanely cruel and apparently the whole world is evil except the protagonist and the 2 main and 2 sub heroines who are supposedly 100% nice and innocent. It's like a hell out there and you are forced to play as a emotionless puppet who sees 4 of his friends / family members who somehow survived in this insane world turn into sluts in a manner of days. I like NTR and I hoped to see some corruption but the 4 female characters behave just so strangely.

Somehow the heroines are total losers and pushovers who act like braindead bimbos and let themselve become whores for the worst kind of people.
The one time they somehow think logically and act forcefully is if they talk with the mc.

It is painful to read... not because I dislike NTR because the mc is so damn weak and you get the feeling he is somehow daywalking and not really awake. He could be a japanese anime protagonist.

Anyway I always cringed at every corner and the scenes themselves were painfully awkward with only sprite art.

Also is this consideres NTR? The mc does not even talk or express any emotion and just says "? ..." Sometimes I feel the mc is just an empty shell and the player should imagine himself in the perspective of the mc. But the player has next to no choice and he is forced to look at a tent where 2 people are obviously having sex but unable to talk about it or do something. Other weak NTR protagonist at least get aroused, cry, react, think and tell us what they feel... some try to win her back and some even accept it. This guy does nothing and I never realize what the viewer is supposed to think here?
I would not call this NTR but I would call this "girls getting corrupted and learning how to enjoy sex while a guy they know acts like a lifeless doll and bystander and notices them having sex but doesn't react at all."

Anyway just wanted to express my frustration and my suprise because I usually agree with the ratings here.

 

[quandin]

Played it a bit... wanted to review it... decided against it. This is so popular and most people are so thankful and think is a hidden gem in the genre.
I just don't get it (no sarcasm I really am confused as hell) and therefore do not bother to review it.
It is a shitton of text and entirely story based. >>> Not a problem. The problem for me is I can't help but feel so frustrated because I have to endure a story that makes absolutely no sense in my opinion. It feels like torture for me (not because of the NTR aspect but because the mc is like a doll and the player has really no real influence over anything).
Apparently I am nearly the only one who dislikes the story so I will not review it.

But I keep wondering:

This world is insanely cruel and apparently the whole world is evil except the protagonist and the 2 main and 2 sub heroines who are supposedly 100% nice and innocent. It's like a hell out there and you are forced to play as a emotionless puppet who sees 4 of his friends / family members who somehow survived in this insane world turn into sluts in a manner of days. I like NTR and I hoped to see some corruption but the 4 female characters behave just so strangely.

Somehow the heroines are total losers and pushovers who act like braindead bimbos and let themselve become whores for the worst kind of people.
The one time they somehow think logically and act forcefully is if they talk with the mc.

It is painful to read... not because I dislike NTR because the mc is so damn weak and you get the feeling he is somehow daywalking and not really awake. He could be a japanese anime protagonist.

Anyway I always cringed at every corner and the scenes themselves were painfully awkward with only sprite art.

Also is this consideres NTR? The mc does not even talk or express any emotion and just says "? ..." Sometimes I feel the mc is just an empty shell and the player should imagine himself in the perspective of the mc. But the player has next to no choice and he is forced to look at a tent where 2 people are obviously having sex but unable to talk about it or do something. Other weak NTR protagonist at least get aroused, cry, react, think and tell us what they feel... some try to win her back and some even accept it. This guy does nothing and I never realize what the viewer is supposed to think here?
I would not call this NTR but I would call this "girls getting corrupted and learning how to enjoy sex while a guy they know acts like a lifeless doll and bystander and notices them having sex but doesn't react at all."

Anyway just wanted to express my frustration and my suprise because I usually agree with the ratings here.

Played it a bit... wanted to review it... decided against it. This is so popular and most people are so thankful and think is a hidden gem in the genre.
I just don't get it (no sarcasm I really am confused as hell) and therefore do not bother to review it.
It is a shitton of text and entirely story based. >>> Not a problem. The problem for me is I can't help but feel so frustrated because I have to endure a story that makes absolutely no sense in my opinion. It feels like torture for me (not because of the NTR aspect but because the mc is like a doll and the player has really no real influence over anything).
Apparently I am nearly the only one who dislikes the story so I will not review it.

But I keep wondering:

This world is insanely cruel and apparently the whole world is evil except the protagonist and the 2 main and 2 sub heroines who are supposedly 100% nice and innocent. It's like a hell out there and you are forced to play as a emotionless puppet who sees 4 of his friends / family members who somehow survived in this insane world turn into sluts in a manner of days. I like NTR and I hoped to see some corruption but the 4 female characters behave just so strangely.

Somehow the heroines are total losers and pushovers who act like braindead bimbos and let themselve become whores for the worst kind of people.
The one time they somehow think logically and act forcefully is if they talk with the mc.

It is painful to read... not because I dislike NTR because the mc is so damn weak and you get the feeling he is somehow daywalking and not really awake. He could be a japanese anime protagonist.

Anyway I always cringed at every corner and the scenes themselves were painfully awkward with only sprite art.

Also is this consideres NTR? The mc does not even talk or express any emotion and just says "? ..." Sometimes I feel the mc is just an empty shell and the player should imagine himself in the perspective of the mc. But the player has next to no choice and he is forced to look at a tent where 2 people are obviously having sex but unable to talk about it or do something. Other weak NTR protagonist at least get aroused, cry, react, think and tell us what they feel... some try to win her back and some even accept it. This guy does nothing and I never realize what the viewer is supposed to think here?
I would not call this NTR but I would call this "girls getting corrupted and learning how to enjoy sex while a guy they know acts like a lifeless doll and bystander and notices them having sex but doesn't react at all."

Anyway just wanted to express my frustration and my suprise because I usually agree with the ratings here.

How can you call this game unrealistic like come on, this is probably the most realistic NTR game on the entire platform, everything actually has a reason for happening, and you calling the mc a doll, i remember somewhere i read a text that N_taii did it to so that people don't get too attached to the main character hence why you also can't name change

 

[Racoon_4]

This world is insanely cruel and apparently the whole world is evil except the protagonist and the 2 main and 2 sub heroines who are supposedly 100% nice and innocent. It's like a hell out there and you are forced to play as a emotionless puppet who sees 4 of his friends / family members who somehow survived in this insane world turn into sluts in a manner of days. I like NTR and I hoped to see some corruption but the 4 female characters behave just so strangely.

Well i kind of agree with you, or i can at least understand what you say. Almost every female character in the story is either a slut or betrays her man. The large majority of male characters are also sooner or later fucking someone elses woman or corrupt them. One or two exceptions would be nice.
That said, they do not become sluts "in a manner of days". The story goes over months, not days.

 

[inatari]

I never get what the point of a hentai game needs to be realistic. It's just hentai, why are people trying to find sense in it? Not a criticism, just curious. Anyway, I think the story is great. I haven't played everything yet, I want to wait for the corruption to advance a little more, but I really like the MC being so dumb (or too innocent), just my opinion.

 

[LexiTV]

I never get what the point of a hentai game needs to be realistic. It's just hentai, why are people trying to find sense in it? Not a criticism, just curious. Anyway, I think the story is great. I haven't played everything yet, I want to wait for the corruption to advance a little more, but I really like the MC being so dumb (or too innocent), just my opinion.

The mc is not dumb.
He obviously realizes everything that is happening. The mc is just a soul & lifeless puppet that does not react. He does not care. I'd imagine he is asexual.

 

[iCrown24]

Update 6 and 7 are going to focus on developing Hayleen and Lily's story? It's clear to me that 6 will clearly advance a bit, and while I like updates where the main story and Rose and Cyanna's scenes are advanced more, I understand that Hayleen and Lily also have their audience waiting for them.

If we think about it, we are in a part where you can let the main story rest for a while and focus more on Hayleen and Lily's route since if we compare them with Rose and Cyanna they are far behind in scenes and in the progress of their missions.

As I said, I like more the updates focused on Rose and Cyanna, but I think that if you delay more the development of Hayleen and Lily's stories they are going to be far behind and possibly it becomes a bit heavy to do their missions (at least that's my point of view).

 

[dayumsonwhereyafindthat]

I do think that some parts of the game have too much sex silhouettes? While traversing the story (which is actually great) I find some parts are bombarded with these a lot such as the war camp and such (I don't mind the main heroines). Other than that its a great game overall.

 

[iCrown24]

I do think that some parts of the game have too much sex silhouettes? While traversing the story (which is actually great) I find some parts are bombarded with these a lot such as the war camp and such (I don't mind the main heroines). Other than that its a great game overall.

Personally that doesn't bother me since one of the things I like the most about the game are the freeroam events and the side histories that you can find all over the map

 

[iCrown24]

By the way, another thing I was thinking about as a result of this update is about the issue of accessing the memory room while outside the main map.

I don't know if in the future we will have more development outside the main map (I imagine we will) if I remember correctly so far we have left the main map on several occasions (I only remember the three times it was through military camp).

But it would be nice that to avoid the problem of not being able to enter the memory room and see the new scenes, you could add a teleport from Leto's tent or any other place where Leto can rest (assuming that not every time we leave the map is for a military event or Leto has a tent where to sleep).

Another thing, will the brothel that came out in the prologue come out again in future updates?, I hope so as it has potential for freeroam events or develop something there.

 

[Matoga]

Update 6 and 7 are going to focus on developing Hayleen and Lily's story? It's clear to me that 6 will clearly advance a bit, and while I like updates where the main story and Rose and Cyanna's scenes are advanced more, I understand that Hayleen and Lily also have their audience waiting for them.

If we think about it, we are in a part where you can let the main story rest for a while and focus more on Hayleen and Lily's route since if we compare them with Rose and Cyanna they are far behind in scenes and in the progress of their missions.

As I said, I like more the updates focused on Rose and Cyanna, but I think that if you delay more the development of Hayleen and Lily's stories they are going to be far behind and possibly it becomes a bit heavy to do their missions (at least that's my point of view).

Only Update 6 will focus on Lily and Haylen, we'll go back to the main story in Update 7.