RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 17] [N_taii]

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Oriandu

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LordFrz said:
Clearly, it's not. Saying something works one way does not automatically mean it works in the opposite direction the same way.



At no point did he say that, or even imply it. You're just pulling that out of your ass to fit your narrative. He is not justifying rape or sexual abuse, he is saying there is no rape or sexual abuse in the case of Haylen.

So argue that point of if it is or isn't rape/sexual abuse, don't just toss words in people's mouths to fit your argument.
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He's justifying rape and sexual abuse. The fact that the rape wasn't done to Haylen does not mean that it wasn't done in the service of getting into Haylen's pants. We've had multiple situations where Haylen has said no and Jazon keeps going, that constitutes sexual assault. Saying "Haylen is a big girl" does not make change that simple fact. He's romanticizing a rapist and acting like Leto shouldn't have a problem with a guy he knows is an absolute sleazeball hooking up with the closest thing he has to a mother simply because he doesn't know that Jazon has manipulated and assaulted Haylen, and raped another woman repeatedly until she became complicit in Jazon's attempts to coerce Haylen into sex. This is undeniable.

Anywho, played through update 12 and I think it might be the first one I would call flat out bad. Haylen feels like a secondary character for a decent chunk of it and the scenes are kind of boring. It only picks up near the end and even then the resulting situation is extremely forced. It feels very out of character for Haylen.
 
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Anywho, played through update 12 and I think it might be the first one I would call flat out bad. Haylen feels like a secondary character for a decent chunk of it and the scenes are kind of boring. It only picks up near the end and even then the resulting situation is extremely forced. It feels very out of character for Haylen.
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I don't think it was THAT bad, there are things that i didn't necessarily like either but i still thought it was an okay Update. It did exacly what i was expecing it to do, nothing more, nothing less.

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Here's a million dollar idea N_taii, you should make it canon that Jazon's uncle and Nezar are long time friends, they're roughly the same age (even if they're not, all you need to do is say that they are and it'll be true), we also know that they're both members of that secret group, and most importantly it was established MULTIPLE times in Upadte12 that Jazon's uncle likes them young, so that's another feature they share (you should really give this guy a name already, it's tiresome calling him Jazon's uncle). I know that you're sticking to the 1on1 rule for now and that even if there's gonna be swapping or sharing it's gonna be something minor, but by weaving Jazon's uncle into Lily's story even just a little, it would make the swap between the side characters in the distant future that much more natural, not to mention i don't see how Jazon and Nezar would ever come to an agreement where they swap their girls for a few rounds.
 
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CobraPL said:
I wonder if is it intended - I completed all the content (till Q21 or so) but ONLY doing stuff secribed to the upper-left corner, NIT according to PDF-walththrough. Lily and Haylen had zero scenes, both discovered by me and their orbs never flashed.
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If you completed all the side quests in the game for Lily and Haylen but saw not quests, it might be that you had the partial PoV on? Or maybe there's something I misunderstood.

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I don't think it was THAT bad, there are things that i didn't necessarily like either but i still thought it was an okay Update. It did exacly what i was expecing it to do, nothing more, nothing less.

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Here's a million dollar idea N_taii, you should make it canon that Jazon's uncle and Nezar are long time friends, they're roughly the same age (even if they're not, all you need to do is say that they are and it'll be true), we also know that they're both members of that secret group, and most importantly it was established MULTIPLE times in Upadte12 that Jazon's uncle likes them young, so that's another feature they share (you should really give this guy a name already, it's tiresome calling him Jazon's uncle). I know that you're sticking to the 1on1 rule for now and that even if there's gonna be swapping or sharing it's gonna be something minor, but by weaving Jazon's uncle into Lily's story even just a little, it would make the swap between the side characters in the distant future that much more natural, not to mention i don't see how Jazon and Nezar would ever come to an agreement where they swap their girls for a few rounds.
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I'm pretty sure the update wasn't shorter than Update 11 or the updates before that, at least in terms of work put into it. It could be that I had to make extra maps for the manor, and that there was quite a lot of sex events at relatively short intervals all throughout the quest (those take a lot more time to do for only a few seconds/minutes of in-game content) that made it appear shorter relative to the amount of work put into it? Also, the confessionary scene or the scene in the dinner room were a bit more "tehcnical" than usual. It didn't really appear shorter to me when I tested everything, but then again, it's very hard to judge.

As for using the uncle in Lily's storyline, I'm not sure about it. It could be kind of a problem introducing one character from a certain storyline into a whole different one considering both are entirely optional, and some people might have only done Lily's and not Haylen's, thus having no idea who Jazon's uncle is. Also, there are other characters I could use for sharing, like that noble that appeared during the auction or Nezar's brother. It's not like every antagonist out there absolutely has to share with each other : )
 
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N_taii said:
If you completed all the side quests in the game for Lily and Haylen but saw not quests, it might be that you had the partial PoV on? Or maybe there's something I misunderstood.
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I did only suggested quests. Ones described to the upper-right corner. I started a new game, skipped prologue and childhood. So I did zero quests for Lily and Haylen, which resulted their seduction to not appear at all. It looks like I need to do their quests by actively searching for them, since hints to the upper-right corner of the screen did not cover their quests.
 
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CobraPL said:
I did only suggested quests. Ones described to the upper-right corner. I started a new game, skipped prologue and childhood. So I did zero quests for Lily and Haylen, which resulted their seduction to not appear at all. It looks like I need to do their quests by actively searching for them, since hints to the upper-right corner of the screen did not cover their quests.
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You can set the visible objectives to whichever active quest you have in your quest journal, side or main, but I think by default the main quest objectives will show up first, so you will have to set it manually to the side quests if you want to see the objectives for them.
(to set them, click on "Quest" in the game menu, then on the quest, then "Set Active")
 
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Matoga said:
I don't think it was THAT bad, there are things that i didn't necessarily like either but i still thought it was an okay Update. It did exacly what i was expecing it to do, nothing more, nothing less.

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Here's a million dollar idea N_taii, you should make it canon that Jazon's uncle and Nezar are long time friends, they're roughly the same age (even if they're not, all you need to do is say that they are and it'll be true), we also know that they're both members of that secret group, and most importantly it was established MULTIPLE times in Upadte12 that Jazon's uncle likes them young, so that's another feature they share (you should really give this guy a name already, it's tiresome calling him Jazon's uncle). I know that you're sticking to the 1on1 rule for now and that even if there's gonna be swapping or sharing it's gonna be something minor, but by weaving Jazon's uncle into Lily's story even just a little, it would make the swap between the side characters in the distant future that much more natural, not to mention i don't see how Jazon and Nezar would ever come to an agreement where they swap their girls for a few rounds.
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I would go so far as to say that the only good thing about update 12 is Haylen's Wedath morning free roam, that one is two thumbs up. Haylen and Jazon are not interesting characters and swapping to them after MQ updates just makes them feel even more boring.

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Update 12 really made it obvious that swapping back and forth between the MQ and the SQ makes the experience very uneven.
 
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Oriandu said:
He's justifying rape and sexual abuse. The fact that the rape wasn't done to Haylen does not mean that it wasn't done in the service of getting into Haylen's pants. We've had multiple situations where Haylen has said no and Jazon keeps going, that constitutes sexual assault. Saying "Haylen is a big girl" does not make change that simple fact. He's romanticizing a rapist and acting like Leto shouldn't have a problem with a guy he knows is an absolute sleazeball hooking up with the closest thing he has to a mother simply because he doesn't know that Jazon has manipulated and assaulted Haylen, and raped another woman repeatedly until she became complicit in Jazon's attempts to coerce Haylen into sex. This is undeniable.

Anywho, played through update 12 and I think it might be the first one I would call flat out bad. Haylen feels like a secondary character for a decent chunk of it and the scenes are kind of boring. It only picks up near the end and even then the resulting situation is extremely forced. It feels very out of character for Haylen.
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Since that's how things work with you I'll just follow suit.

I can't believe you keep justifying rape and sexual abuse with everything you type, for shame.
 
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Yeah I keep wondering why the main girls' stages of progression come before lily and haylen's. Lily and haylen are just less interesting. I feel like it's better to develop them first, then drop the big reveal with the main girls plot developments afterwards. At least that way, they're less interesting but at least more is happening with them, idk it seems to balance out better in my mind that way.

Side note: this game is so much better than HC1 and 2 in my opinion. Keep up the great work Mr. Dev.
 
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Oriandu said:
So basically what you're saying is that rape and sexual abuse are ok if the people involved are alone, educated, and have desires?

(Note that I am fully capable of repeatedly responding to your attempts to justify what Jazon does to Haylen with this same response ad nauseum, your best course of action is to simply stop engaging me on the subject or to admit that you're giving a character who is a known rapist a pass.)
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Yes, you exposed me, Colombo. Me mentioning Jason being pushy with Haylen to a certain degree as a stimulus for her was in fact a disguised attempt to promote rape and sexual abuse. You're a genius.
 
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Matoga i must agree jazon and his uncle being in cahoots would be quite cunning, tho idk if jazon is actually smart enough to plan all this, to turn haylen's own idea/plot into a means by which to get closer to her

regarding the update, i definitely felt it was MUCH MUCH weaker than rose and cy's cause if you sum it up, it was simply a case of 'i can fix him', Haylen wasn't starved or manipulated (she was in a clear state of mind) yet she decided to go with what was essentially a whim, a bit farfetched even for porn logic and a big contrast to the desperate situation that forced rose and cy's hands

just my 2c, i dont mean all this as hate, this is one of the last avns i follow seriously
 
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