Rythan25

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Thought I would chime in on the convo.
It would be far easier to make a lesbian only game (or hetero only for that matter)...I would just have to develop those female characters and their relationships and not have to "worry" about catering to any other sexual paths (MF, MFF, MMF, MMFF).
Because I chose to make all possible paths, that causes quite a few issues:
1. There is a LOT more unique relationships that have to be built and built in different ways.
2. The change in demeanor, thoughts, conversation and actions have to be kept in mind based of the paths you are taking, which only gets harder over time. (I am not saying I do an amazing job at that, but I try my best).
3. I can never fully satisfy a "player" who only likes one thing or another and nothing in between. Even if I do satisfy them somewhat for a short time (for example two back to back chapters of cabin lesbianism), one chapter later there isn't content for them and they can be unhappy. The counter to this would be - "do longer chapters" - and instead of one release per 6 weeks, I do one release every 3 months. That way I ensure if you are playing a release there will be something for you. The feedback in the past has been against that and since I have been comfortable with it for coming on 2 years now, should I bother changing that? I open to change.

I plan on posting my general plan going forward on Patreon/Subscribestar, but I will share a bit here:
-I want the 2 "main" storylines to move forward in the coming chapters - that being Chloe and Parker. By moving forward, I mean really "moving forward". Once that happens, that opens others "possibilities" in those storylines :)
-I want to "complete" some side storylines, like I just did with the Wilsons. That will help streamline the chapters and focus more on the main and secondary storylines.
-I want to get to some real "naughty" parts of the secondary storylines (Vera, Hannah, Vera/Hannah/Chloe/MC, The Shaws, Parker/Felix, MC/Brody/Chloe, etc.) I've taken my time on some of those, but a lot of them are ready for the next big step.

Sorry for the long post, I was writing the script for the next Chapter thought I would post some thoughts. I've had a lot of great support throughout the 2 years I've been doing this, and I know I can never make everyone happy all the time, but I can at least strive to be consistent, to be open, and to get better at the process as I do.
Honestly I wouldnt worry to much, I think the balance you have in this game is damn near perfect, Honestly I dont hate a single character that tries to bang Amber so far, some are teetering on being cut though
1. the lesbian at the club that likes to be dominant with Amber annoys me
2. Dale if he keeps being rough with Amber and takes it too far
3. The attractive young teacher that wants to blackmail Amber in order to give Chloe a rec letter (this one saddens me as I was hoping it was going to be more a seduction path as he is hot, and I could see Amber being into him, but instead he decided to be a douchebag)

Other than that I like everyone else so far, as far as Fem Protag games go, this is ym favorite by a landslide... Its not the typical "retard in lechertown"... Its more "Amber is incredibly into her sexuality and wants to share her passion with people she connects with". Hopefully the paths continue to be based on points with those specific characters, and not a "filthy or good" metric... cause if true blackmail or physically forced content ever rear its ugly head I would want to avoid it like the plauge.

Also Wack Daddy That cliffhanger was vilanous ! Since that's my favorite path so far introduced... I want an eventual family loving, so seeing Chloe hanging out not just with Amber but with Brody I was like "YESSS !!!! and then.... To be Continued". Will Chloe and Parker eventually start interacting more ? I would want a Mom/Son Dad/Daughter foursome with swapping partners eventually scene, but so far Chloe and Parker have shared like 2 lines among them ?
 

sagerock820

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Just finished, very good update and I had plenty of content to play - Parker/Felix/Monica scene, setting up another date with the Shaws and the Wilsons scene. Really looking forward to Amber/Monica shopping trip.

Keep up the good work. As for releases, I like the schedule you have going now. You can't please everyone. Some updates may not have much for some players, but that's the route(s) they chose. I don't do Brody route (except the Shaws), so if an update comes out with only Brody content, I'll wait until the next one. I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
 
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Maviarab

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Some updates may not have much for some players, but that's the route(s) they chose
So then those people should just skip an update or two instead of having FOMO (or, utilise that highly underrated skill around here of reading shit first and see what content the next update will have).

I can't stand Parker and Felix but does anyone see me constantly whining about content of theirs every godamn update? No. Their content does not diminish my enjoyment of this excellent VN which updates regularly.
 

sagerock820

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So then those people should just skip an update or two instead of having FOMO (or, utilise that highly underrated skill around here of reading shit first and see what content the next update will have).

I can't stand Parker and Felix but does anyone see me constantly whining about content of theirs every godamn update? No. Their content does not diminish my enjoyment of this excellent VN which updates regularly.
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pango173

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this is the first game in this genre (swinging sharing couple) that nothing gives me. maybe because of a lot lesbian content that i dont like, i rly dont know. i love this genre but this is not good im sorry. too less mmf or mfmf. its not thrilling me somehow
 
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Wack Daddy

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Wack Daddy, dude, you are doing a great job, and for me, you are one the most trustworthy and hardworking dev here, in my opinion, one release per 6 weeks is a perfect pace. And you are right you never satisfy all, I just hope constantly dissatisfied people don't break you and your game.
And one quick question, do you plan Parker/Chloe/Amber rouгte or its secret?
Parker/Chloe/MC? Maybe - it was pointed out they don't interact a lot, and that's true, so like I did a couple chapters ago, I am trying to fix that.
Parker/Chloe/Brody/MC? Maybe, be a bit of while till that would be possible, but it is possible.
 

Joshy92

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OMG a Parker, Chloe, Brody & MC foursome? holy heck that would destroy my penis. I have been secretly fantasizing about that for a while tbh.
 
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darlic

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basically nothing happens in this update if you're playing her as hetero, so choice doesn't have a lot to do with it.

quite glad i stopped supporting this back when i did. it was pretty clear what direction it was going. i'd say i'm at least happy for the straight dudes fetishizing lesbianism (because this definitely isn't the kind of thing that's for actual lesbians), but they're already so spoiled for choice in adult games... and it's sooo boring... so nah.
To be fair this last update offered a lot of straight content, and it already hinted at more of it for the next update as well. I low-fi complained about the lack of diversity of straight content some days ago but this update definitely put my worries to rest.
 
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despaireducer

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yea, on pornhub statistic from 2023 among men it's only 7 position and still lose popularity.

If lesbian was that popular on this site, then "pure" lesbian games would be top here, but they barely exist and don't have a lot of supporters + you should also consider that, they don't have much competition, compared to "male protagonist" games
If u state facts Softy Soft Lesbian lovers gets triggered. If someone says they dont like MILF i dont give a fuck. Why cant Sensitive Lesbians ignore us?
 
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If u state facts Softy Soft Lesbian lovers gets triggered. If someone says they dont like MILF i dont give a fuck. Why cant Sensitive Lesbians ignore us?
because it is funny-sad and annoying that you have 90% of the games on this site and you start crying like spoiled children when there is a single update of a game that is not for you.

if you don't like that a game has lesbian updates you have the rest of the games on this site to choose from while you wait, we don't.

by the way, this update has nothing lesbian in it at least in the spoilers that the dev posted there weren't any, so the crying is nonsense.
 

Master of Puppets

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If u state facts Softy Soft Lesbian lovers gets triggered. If someone says they dont like MILF i dont give a fuck. Why cant Sensitive Lesbians ignore us?
Ah yes, the "fact" that one of the top ten porn genres is "not popular". Why would anyone ever even think of disagreeing with "facts" like that?
 

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Wack Daddy The only thing I'd have done with this new update was give us a chance to still interact with Monica if on the Lesbian path, like have her walk in in her bikini while we're in the kitchen or something to grab something to drink. Other than that, I enjoy your work and can't wait for the next update.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Wack Daddy, dude, you are doing a great job, and for me, you are one the most trustworthy and hardworking dev here, in my opinion, one release per 6 weeks is a perfect pace. And you are right you never satisfy all, I just hope constantly dissatisfied people don't break you and your game.
And one quick question, do you plan Parker/Chloe/Amber rouгte or its secret?
I, for one, would hate any Parker/... content, let alone letting him anywhere near his sister. Yet another reason to not financially support this
 
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