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Ren'Py Hermione Trainer [v0.2] [EdgeAI]

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EmDotRand

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Thank you for your efforts to understand me. Your explanations are so enlightening for me that I think I now know where the problem lies: In my opinion, the problem is not the language barrier, but my way of processing language, which only processes logically correct things word for word and processes illogical things with difficulty, incorrectly, or not at all.
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Suddenly I'm motivated to learn German again.

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Karnewarrior

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Having taken German in college, I don't think anyone sane wants to learn German. :V
One look at the 14-word compound phrase, a whole sentence condensed into a nuclear bomb of a word, and it differs depending on gender? I die.

"Jesus Fuck, Bro" is a phrase that in American English is meant to convey a sort of exasperation or annoyance, but not in a hostile way. It's the kind of thing you say to a friend if he does something that's extremely dumb, llike try to skateboard down a vertical slope or approach a pretty girl by telling her "You got rockin' tits babe".


I would advise GPT over Google, by the way. GPT's a lot better with turns of phrase and can probably more easily translate casual speech, rather than being focused on sort of formal, official type stuff. I think mechanically Google is better, but not by a lot and not for this.
 

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Good thing I'm not sane. /j Although due to the influx om German immigrants in my country I'd have to learn at least the basics at some point.
 

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the original of the well-loved

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Here is a slowly spoken version of waitress Bärbel and her beer:


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"Jesus Fuck, Bro" is a phrase that in American English is meant to convey a sort
of exasperation or annoyance It's the kind of thing you say to a friend
if he does something that's extremely dumb ...
what I write is never in the heat of the moment, and always calm, well-considered,
and from my point of view right and true.
You say that is extremely dumb, shows exasperation and annoyance .
Why, under what conditions, is that possible?

Please use this example to explain to me why this is extremely dumb,
and why this can cause exasperation and annoyance in a reader.
because I'm trying to understand ...
 
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The dumb part is that you were giving off the impression that you were arguing about AI quality, but nobody could tell if you were more in favor of this game's art or other games' art. And despite people trying to question deeper, you kept posting nonsense.

In retrospect, this is clearly because your handle on English is not so good. This is fair; my handle on German is nicht sehr gut, myself.



I think, perhaps, it's best to just put this conversation into a box, and leave it at the back of the metaphorical closet to be forgotten about. I don't think we're going to be able to stuff any more information past the language gap.
 
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toccata

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I think, perhaps, it's best to just put this conversation into a box,
and leave it at the back of the metaphorical closet to be forgotten about.
What you say here is good.
If you put what you have told me in a box and leave it there
and do not take it out again, I will not remind you of it.

But my situation is not the same as yours. Because what I am saying is true.
And I will continue to say what is true when I think it is necessary and good.
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It's good it was abandoned. This was the worst game I have ever seen, lifeless, soulless, pathetic. The only reason people argue in this thread is that it seems like Hermione is still insanely popular and people are so desperate for content like this that they are even entertaining this garbage.
 

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It's been over a month with no update or progress report. My bet is that Edge realized he has no idea what he's doing and got stuck in tutorial hell trying to correct it. Of course that's just speculation.
 

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This was the worst game I have ever seen, lifeless, soulless, pathetic.
You obviously don't know the contents of this version v0.2
I want to show you a few things from this v0.2 :

mouse normal.png mouse eyesclosed.png mouse handjobec.png mouse blowjobec.png
mouse blowjob.png mouse handjob.png mouse handjobprog.png mouse handjobfin.png

What this mouse girl gives is full of life and spiritual warmth
and, in my way, soothing and good.

As you can see, your words "lifeless, soulless, pathetic"
are completely off the mark.

... that they are even entertaining this garbage.
I don't share your view of what is garbage and what isn't.

My bet is that Edge realized he has no idea what he's doing ...
If he didn't know what his mouse girl was doing here,
he wouldn't have been able to create this episode.
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If he didn't know what his mouse girl was doing here,
he wouldn't have been able to create this episode.
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Have you ever heard of an "Expert Beginner"?
These are people that can follow steps to deliver a product, but don't understand why they're doing the steps.
If they were a chef, you can give this person some recipes and they can cook with them.
It may be the best version you have ever eaten. They work like an expert.
If you then ask them to replace a few ingredients to make a new recipe, they will be confused.
They might mix ingredients in the recipes they know, but it won't be any good because it's mostly guessing. In that way they are a beginner.
(Can you tell I was hungry while writing this?)
 
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toccata

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Have you ever heard of an "Expert Beginner"? ...
No, I don't know any.

And EdgeAI isn't one of those you're describing.
His mouse is a new in-house production. And it's high quality.

And EdgeAI's Hermione is much prettier, sweeter and higher
quality than the previous versions. So that is a positive development.

(Can you tell I was hungry while writing this?)
Then eat EdgeAIi's mouse. And you don't have any more hunger.
And play with this mouse. (Like me ...)

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No, I don't know any.

And EdgeAI isn't one of those you're describing.
His mouse is a new in-house production. And it's high quality.

And EdgeAI's Hermione is much prettier, sweeter and higher
quality than the previous versions. So that is a positive development.


Then eat EdgeAIi's mouse. And you don't have any more hunger.
And play with this mouse. (Like me ...)

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You don't have to take what everyone says so personally all the time.
What he means is that people with a talent to do very specific things, sometimes lack the ability to operate outside of a defined environment.

I think someone else's said it previously too.

If you are following a tutorial, you have a guideline, your talent will show how good can create something in a very specific situation. Think homework exercices when you were at school. (it's not because you can solve an equation where the answer is already known that you are a genius mathematician).

The issue arrives when the tutorial ends. Where do you want to go? Do you have a plan? Have you already thought about your organisation? Can you plan ahead? Can you offer gameplay and a story that is good enough to satisfy players, and without doing an exact copy of what has already be done?

Everyone can use an AI image generator. Not everyone can obtain good result.

Everyone can write a short story that goes with said image. Not everyone can write a good story.

But it's not because you have an character and a story that work good together that you can reproduce it on a bigger and more global scale. And don't forget this is a game, you have to add some gameplay elements to the mix.

I'm not saying EdgeAI lacks all of this, I sure hope they will be able to continue their projects, but the whole point is that it's not because they managed to present something that looks good and work, that it is representative of their talent in general or their ability to complete a large project by themselves.

Lack of communication in itself is bad when you are trying to sell a project. Most indie game dev give regular updates on their project, even if it's to say "I hit a wall, update will be delayed"
 

toccata

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If you are following a tutorial, you have a guideline, your talent will show how good can create something in a very specific situation.
In what EdgeAI has created, he has three tutorials:
one for RenPy, one for the AI generator
and one for his graphics program.

That's all. There is nothing more !
The rest is subject to the law of legally guaranteed artistic freedom.

So... what do you think? What kind of tutorial are you talking about ?
Please tell me: which tutorial should he have used for his mouse girl ?
He can do whatever he wants !
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