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There's a story like this that goes even further in Celtic mythology - the Welsh tale Math Son of Mathonwy.
Hi I have a reading disability, and I can't explain myself well, but I think I found a bug

I want to play the prologue as a warrior, but it seems I can only play it as aDruid

How do I start the prologue as something else besides aDruid

I think that there should be something in the prologue that makes you pick what you want to be
 

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Hi I have a reading disability, and I can't explain myself well, but I think I found a bug

I want to play the prologue as a warrior, but it seems I can only play it as aDruid

How do I start the prologue as something else besides aDruid

I think that there should be something in the prologue that makes you pick what you want to be
Prologue class is determine by good score, bad score, and sex score. I'm not the dev, but I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug. There is a specific event where this is decided by your scores.

Also as a question for the dev, I'm personally curious about the craftsman path. Is it just an easter egg or are their any plans for it?
 

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Prologue class is determine by good score, bad score, and sex score. I'm not the dev, but I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug. There is a specific event where this is decided by your scores.

Also as a question for the dev, I'm personally curious about the craftsman path. Is it just an easter egg or are their any plans for it?
Crafter is basically a fail path if you don't meet the requirements for any of the other hero types.
I needed something there, otherwise the game would just end on an error for people that somehow made choices that didn't align to any of the other class conditions. There were never any plans to expand on this class, because he basically has his canon ending before the main game begins.
 
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There's a story like this that goes even further in Celtic mythology - the Welsh tale Math Son of Mathonwy.
The one with Gwydion? Definitely, its even surrounded by other stories where things go way off the rail. I vaguely recall there being a few weird pregnancy stories. I'd postulate with zero evidence that its possible the Norse version pre-Snorri could have been equally weird. If Sleipnir, Jormungandr and Fenrir were all conceived as a tripartite, obviously that's not how its recorded, but would raise the bizarre factor.
 

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Slamjax - You may want to control/reduce the path available for each class. From what i see in the Dark Druid path in the end, you have split it to 3 path. But this time around you have multiple class. Just a suggestion, otherwise it will take forever for you finish this game
 

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Cú Chulainn is more of a direct comparison to Hercules or Achilles - he's a demi-god (in some versions of his tale his real father is the god Lugh) and unbeatable on the battlefield. He only dies when he is made to break his geas before going into battle, thus losing his otherworldly protections. Fionn mac Cumhaill is something else - he's more like King Arthur and his Fianna are like the Knights of the Round Table. Fionn can be heroic but he can also be petty and mean, depending on the stories you read. In the great Irish tale The Pursuit of Diarmuid and Grainne, Fionn is definitely the villain.

The salmon swam in a well where the branches of the nine Trees of Knowledge overhung. The hazelnuts that fell from the trees would allow a being to know all of the knowledge of the ancestors from the Celtic Otherworld (i.e. secrets of the universe). The salmon ate these hazelnuts and became the Salmon of Knowledge. Fionn merely ate from the Trees of Knowledge in an indirect way by eating the sizzling fat from the cooking salmon after it was caught. So it's like the forbidden fruit from the Tree of Knowledge in the garden of Eden.

Hazel trees, hazel groves, hazel wood and hazelnuts appear in Celtic myth as having mystic properties. They were an important tree for the druids from what little we know.
That is a fair point with Cu Chulainn. Now that you mention it comparing Finn to King Arthur fits better. Finn is closer to Aeneas, Jason, or Odysseus than Achilles or Heracles. The archetype of a mythical figure with a posse that is far more human than a demigod. I never connected Finn to that archetype before you mentioned it.

It would be cool to know why the Hazelnut held importance in their mythology, but the practical reasons seem self-evident. A useful type of wood, but the tree also creates food. Only a wise person would know when the value of the wood outweighs the value of the nut to the community. I am sure the druids had a story to teach this lesson, and it's unfortunate we will never read it. The tree being connected to wisdom and knowledge seems to make intuitive sense in a way, but it is just a guess.
 
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This version of the story is quite bland compared to the tale of Taliesin, which shares the same motif. Among the Celts anytime a magic cauldron comes up things tend to end up pretty weird. I'd definitely hold the Loki horse story is the weirdest.
I wasn't familiar with Taliesin and the Cauldron of Inspiration. I guess Finn's origin myth was inspired by Taliesin when it was still an oral story. That is neat. Everyone points to Sleipnir as this apex of mythological weirdness, and I get that. I don't know if it's brain rot from Zeus, but it just doesn't seem that weird to me. Leda and Swan Zeus is such a typical mythological story that Sleipnir seems tame compared to magic fish oil on someone's thumb. My weirdness scale might be more broken than I thought. lol
 
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I wasn't familiar with Taliesin and the Cauldron of Inspiration. I guess Finn's origin myth was inspired by Taliesin when it was still an oral story. That is neat. Everyone points to Sleipnir as this apex of mythological weirdness, and I get that. I don't know if it's brain rot from Zeus, but it just doesn't seem that weird to me. Leda and Swan Zeus is such a typical mythological story that Sleipnir seems tame compared to magic fish oil on someone's thumb. My weirdness scale might be more broken than I thought. lol
Its usually hard to say where the evolution of these stories might have originated. Possibly far more ancient than any of these cultures, only my guess with how the threefold sacrifice for wisdom is present in both the Welsh and Norse versions. You're probably right, the over-exposure of those Greek stories really has tapered how strange some of them are. I suppose as a direct comparison the birth of Athena might be weirder than Sleipnir, though it doesn't seem that weird. You're also likely right about your guess on the hazelnut, hazel and oak tend to be revered more commonly for providing edible nuts. The Celts lived in a fairly harsh environment where nuts would have been important forage through winter. All trees were considered super important to the Celts though, the basis for the Gaelic language revolves around trees. If you find the mythology stuff of interest you should definitely enjoy what Slam puts out. He's handled the mythology in a way that has been genuine, but makes it fresh and entertaining.
 
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i'm surprised Gáe Bolg, Lorg Mór and Claíomh Solais is not featured heavily. Claíomh Solais is sword of Nuada of the Silver Hand but seems the dev is doing a swap with Freagarach which is sword of Lugh. Lorg Mor is Dadga staff. Lia Fáil (Stone of Destiny) should be the Stone of Fal. Gae Assail is Spear of Sun.

Now waiting the appearance of Caladbolg/Caliburnus/Excalibur since it is the most OP weapon in the lore beside's Balor's Eyes
 
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The PC Mega link is pointing to an APK file instead.
Yeah, I messed up a link update. Should be fixed now.
The Android version on the MEGA link should also work now - I tested it myself on an Android device and it was OK.

The Celts lived in a fairly harsh environment where nuts would have been important forage through winter.
At their height in the days of the early Roman Republic and late Greek antiquity, Celtic peoples (which is a very broad term) covered South Eastern and Central Europe (minus Germany and Scandinavia), as well as modern France, Spain and the British Isles. So a lot of the land was actually very rich for farming and grazing. Before their colonization by the English, the Irish were a very well-fed people, mainly because their land was excellent for cattle grazing, and from that you get meat and milk.

A feature of Irish mythology that appears often (especially in the Ulster Cycle) is wealth measured by the size of cattle herds. Great battles are also fought on the pre-text of cattle raids. Ireland's greatest epic story is basically a cattle raid (the Táin Bó Cúailnge). So we can imagine Celtic Ireland as being a place where different tribes and clans lived around the earthen hill forts of their chiefs and they raided each other.
 
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