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I am someone who cannot stand NTR(GxG is NTR, don't @ me), and I wanted to try and explain things from my point of view.Alright, I had hoped this wouldn't be necessary, but I feel this needs to be cleared up before it takes even more on a life of its own.
Repeating the gist of my reply to r246 from itch.io, though with additional info and clarifications:
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That's just not true.
First of all, let's clear up what you're referring to with "NTR" and when the content in question got added, so people who only read your claims without having played TM! don't get the wrong idea:
- some goofy dreams of the protagonist, where he slips into the role of a horny photographer, and imagines photoshooting some maids (who behave more easy in his dreams than they really would). In some later dreams, he brings along his fictional quadruplet siblings/clones, but those later dreams are all optional.
- The "Moist Memories" category on the 'Carnal Crystal':
Lets you optionally look into some naughty memories of some of the naughtier girls, from a time (long) before meeting the MC. Kinda like that porn video of that church girl in CK, only easier to avoid.
- The "Forbidden Fantasies" category on the Carnal Crystal:
This just has 2 fantasies with the MC as the only guy, and some GxG fantasies by the MC.
Other than that, TM has some optional lesbian content (usually connected to FFM content with the MC), and one lonely (skippable) netori scene where the MC takes Mary away from her cheating husband for good.
That's it. That's all the "feels like NTR to some people" content TM has.
As for the "in the final update" claim:
- 6 out of 9 dreams have been in the game since 2022 (TM launched at the end of July 2022, so they appeared early).
- 1 scene where you can choose whether you want it to be a dream or memory was added in 2023.
- Only 2 dreams were added in 2024, only 1 of them in the last update (and that's one's pretty mellow).
- Most of the optional lesbian content is from 2022 and 2023.
- Only the bulk of memories/fantasies is from 2024, but only 2 of the memories were added in the final content update.
Frankly, looking at my summary, I'm not even sure where your statement is even coming from.
Sounds like you misinterpreted someone's post or some changelog, and didn't do any actual fact-checking.
There never was any in the first place.
You make it sound like TM was a pure harem game in the narrow sense until version 0.99.5 and then suddenly got actual NTR in 1.0.
Both of that is flat out BS, as outlined above.
Anyway, enough about TM.
Yes.
I understand people's narrower "harem" definition by now, and "No NTR" means "No NTR".
There'll be some optional lesbian content in HHR (much less of it and less dirty than in TM!, only if the player explicitly chooses it to happen, probably limited to just a few sidegirls), but the protagonist is and will remain the only male character in that world, just like the game description states.
No dreams, fantasies, memories or anything of that sort this time, either.
Not now, not late in the dev cycle, not in some spin-off.
And yes, that's a promise.
HHR will be and was always meant to be a purer harem experience than TM.
It frankly disappoints me a little that some people are so excessively paranoid and distrustful just because I used to be pretty oblivious about 18+ genres and tag definitions and made some beginner mistakes as a result, until I learned things the hard way with TM.
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That shit is not NTR man don't let these people tell you what is and isn't lmao.Alright, I had hoped this wouldn't be necessary, but I feel this needs to be cleared up before it takes even more on a life of its own.
Repeating the gist of my reply to r246 from itch.io, though with additional info and clarifications:
----------------
That's just not true.
First of all, let's clear up what you're referring to with "NTR" and when the content in question got added, so people who only read your claims without having played TM! don't get the wrong idea:
- some goofy dreams of the protagonist, where he slips into the role of a horny photographer, and imagines photoshooting some maids (who behave more easy in his dreams than they really would). In some later dreams, he brings along his fictional quadruplet siblings/clones, but those later dreams are all optional.
- The "Moist Memories" category on the 'Carnal Crystal':
Lets you optionally look into some naughty memories of some of the naughtier girls, from a time (long) before meeting the MC. Kinda like that porn video of that church girl in CK, only easier to avoid.
- The "Forbidden Fantasies" category on the Carnal Crystal:
This just has 2 fantasies with the MC as the only guy, and some GxG fantasies by the MC.
Other than that, TM has some optional lesbian content (usually connected to FFM content with the MC), and one lonely (skippable) netori scene where the MC takes Mary away from her cheating husband for good.
That's it. That's all the "feels like NTR to some people" content TM has.
As for the "in the final update" claim:
- 6 out of 9 dreams have been in the game since 2022 (TM launched at the end of July 2022, so they appeared early).
- 1 scene where you can choose whether you want it to be a dream or memory was added in 2023.
- Only 2 dreams were added in 2024, only 1 of them in the last update (and that's one's pretty mellow).
- Most of the optional lesbian content is from 2022 and 2023.
- Only the bulk of memories/fantasies is from 2024, but only 2 of the memories were added in the final content update.
Frankly, looking at my summary, I'm not even sure where your statement is even coming from.
Sounds like you misinterpreted someone's post or some changelog, and didn't do any actual fact-checking.
There never was any in the first place.
You make it sound like TM was a pure harem game in the narrow sense until version 0.99.5 and then suddenly got actual NTR in 1.0.
Both of that is flat out BS, as outlined above.
Anyway, enough about TM.
Yes.
I understand people's narrower "harem" definition by now, and "No NTR" means "No NTR".
There'll be some optional lesbian content in HHR (much less of it and less dirty than in TM!, only if the player explicitly chooses it to happen, probably limited to just a few sidegirls), but the protagonist is and will remain the only male character in that world, just like the game description states.
No dreams, fantasies, memories or anything of that sort this time, either.
Not now, not late in the dev cycle, not in some spin-off.
And yes, that's a promise.
HHR will be and was always meant to be a purer harem experience than TM.
It frankly disappoints me a little that some people are so excessively paranoid and distrustful just because I used to be pretty oblivious about 18+ genres and tag definitions and made some beginner mistakes as a result, until I learned things the hard way with TM.
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Harem is and always has been 1 man with many women exclusive to him... and you def betrayed that lol.Alright, I had hoped this wouldn't be necessary, but I feel this needs to be cleared up before it takes even more on a life of its own.
Repeating the gist of my reply to r246 from itch.io, though with additional info and clarifications:
----------------
That's just not true.
First of all, let's clear up what you're referring to with "NTR" and when the content in question got added, so people who only read your claims without having played TM! don't get the wrong idea:
- some goofy dreams of the protagonist, where he slips into the role of a horny photographer, and imagines photoshooting some maids (who behave more easy in his dreams than they really would). In some later dreams, he brings along his fictional quadruplet siblings/clones, but those later dreams are all optional.
- The "Moist Memories" category on the 'Carnal Crystal':
Lets you optionally look into some naughty memories of some of the naughtier girls, from a time (long) before meeting the MC. Kinda like that porn video of that church girl in CK, only easier to avoid.
- The "Forbidden Fantasies" category on the Carnal Crystal:
This just has 2 fantasies with the MC as the only guy, and some GxG fantasies by the MC.
Other than that, TM has some optional lesbian content (usually connected to FFM content with the MC), and one lonely (skippable) netori scene where the MC takes Mary away from her cheating husband for good.
That's it. That's all the "feels like NTR to some people" content TM has.
As for the "in the final update" claim:
- 6 out of 9 dreams have been in the game since 2022 (TM launched at the end of July 2022, so they appeared early).
- 1 scene where you can choose whether you want it to be a dream or memory was added in 2023.
- Only 2 dreams were added in 2024, only 1 of them in the last update (and that's one's pretty mellow).
- Most of the optional lesbian content is from 2022 and 2023.
- Only the bulk of memories/fantasies is from 2024, but only 2 of the memories were added in the final content update.
Frankly, looking at my summary, I'm not even sure where your statement is even coming from.
Sounds like you misinterpreted someone's post or some changelog, and didn't do any actual fact-checking.
There never was any in the first place.
You make it sound like TM was a pure harem game in the narrow sense until version 0.99.5 and then suddenly got actual NTR in 1.0.
Both of that is flat out BS, as outlined above.
Anyway, enough about TM.
Yes.
I understand people's narrower "harem" definition by now, and "No NTR" means "No NTR".
There'll be some optional lesbian content in HHR (much less of it and less dirty than in TM!, only if the player explicitly chooses it to happen, probably limited to just a few sidegirls), but the protagonist is and will remain the only male character in that world, just like the game description states.
No dreams, fantasies, memories or anything of that sort this time, either.
Not now, not late in the dev cycle, not in some spin-off.
And yes, that's a promise.
HHR will be and was always meant to be a purer harem experience than TM.
It frankly disappoints me a little that some people are so excessively paranoid and distrustful just because I used to be pretty oblivious about 18+ genres and tag definitions and made some beginner mistakes as a result, until I learned things the hard way with TM.
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