kklby

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Sorry, I was to exhausted yesterday to dive into all this sweet sweet F95 engagement, but your up first! Thank you very much for the reply/question. Yes, NTR is here to stay (everyone use the angry emoji now).
No it's not the focus going forward, this is only chapter two. I started with the main story threads written and currently have chapters 03->05 already node mapped. Unless I get the itch, there are only two NTR events in them, and they're gonna be hard avoidable, not "Opt-Out" avoidable, I mean "Other guy can go sleep alone cuz I win!" avoidable. It's NTR, not Cuck. Man I hate Cucking... Unless it's to the other guy.
Finally, at the end of chapter 02, there IS ONE perfect path where you sleep w/ the captains wife, and all he gets for the trouble is a black eye. Ya probably have a good chunk of the persistent dialog cleared, so slam through it and watch Kojias affinity counter. Keep it high. ^^
Hello, do you mean that the subsequent updates of this game starting from the third chapter will focus more on the harem and will not have too many NTR?
 

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also Im very surprised to say this but my favorite character so far is> Ayre. maybe it was the way her ass bounced up and down while she was looking at me. while the rest didnt lol.
 

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Good to see an update. (y)

I want to say the review by ResurrectedUser is intentionally misleading.
They don't understand the plot and don't like the game's fetishes. It's pretty childish how these members think it's okay to trash a game they are personally against.

The fact that you have to put in effort to really understand the concept of this game makes it even more enjoyable.
Yep, you can tell when a dude is trashing a game in the reviews just because he hates some content like Harem+Ntr.
 
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Atherin

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Hello, do you mean that the subsequent updates of this game starting from the third chapter will focus more on the harem and will not have too many NTR?
It's not gonna be absent. It will be less likely to get, but it's not my intention to make it easy. Really I have the main paths already written, but as I come too it I usually think up a small handful of "ya dun fucked up" side paths, that do usually make it harder for me to write down the road lol.
That said, every single NTR scene is avoidable/preventable in some way. BUT, the NTR tag is there for a reason. The player who skips all that is gonna think this thing is really very short.
General rule is that the player should focus on getting a single characters affinity super high for now. The core three (Hikari, Tsuki, Sasayaki) will be capable of balancing out in the end, but there is a hard choice between Ayre and Lalafon(+Kojia).
 

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maybe I missed it but who is the incest even with?
Not to talk down to anyone, but 99% of incest patchs that work by replacing a single file only change some text. "Neighbor" -> "Daughter" etc.
It IS super subtle right now. The patch only replaces about a dozen word instances.
Mostly I wanted to get... er... the author of the mod wanted to get it in circulation.

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General rule is that the player should focus on getting a single characters affinity super high for now. The core three (Hikari, Tsuki, Sasayaki) will be capable of balancing out in the end, but there is a hard choice between Ayre and Lalafon(+Kojia).
Meanwhile me: Tries to get the relationship as low as possible to make NTR be easier in the future :eek:
 

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Just a remark, which probably 10 others wrote about. I think it's a bit fast. I needed to restart it 5 times. But than of course being modern man, I have a very bad attention span.

Maybe better, to have an option to do it slower.

I tried to lower textspeed but it didn't do anything.

I tried pressing space but every time I could go back and start over...
 
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Literally both of these statements are wrong.
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Yeah, if you need to do some work - it's better to package all of it into one product.
Even if the full on flashbacks would be bad for the flow of the story - and it can be a bitch - you can incorporate flashbacks into the ongoing sex scenes.

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yeah no. Harem is simply having a lot of whatever you like at your disposal. That simple. Think about king's harem's of the past (like actually history). Within many harem's were plenty of people simply taken, forced to, etc. People in the harem weren't always devoted, and being taken/forces is part of why along with the fact that they didn't always have a real emotional connection to the person they were in the harem of that they weren't always devoted. Point is, some kings gave 2 shits about conquering in the sense that you described. Some did not.

In regards to porn games we are talking fantasies. So what constitutes a harem can wildly range. For some people they want to conquer feelings and go through much of what you described. For some people that simple just want to have multiple girls that are just their girls and no one else can touch them. Within that segment their are some people that want girls that are just theirs and have never been touched by anyone else and never will be touched by anyone else. Sometimes those people will be open to a girl that has been with some other girl, IF that girl will never be with some other person EVER again. Those people like those girls because they are theirs and just theirs. Hell some even go as far as refusing to view the girl as part of the harem still if the girl is "tainted" by some other person (some or more forgiving if said other person is female).

One can make a really good NTR out of that because the conditions for jealousy and lost love are really strong in such a scenario, but that would be at the expense of the fantasy of the harem lover, as NTR directly conflicts with the "never will be touched by anyone else". It truly is oil and water, because because for many harem lovers, netorare IS the destruction of their fantasy. Hence, people get angry and actively try to learn if NTR is avoidable because they want to have their fantasy and they don't want their fantasy tainted/destroyed. Ironically this has the ability to make NTR people happy, not so much because they are ruining someone else's fantasy (well...some people actually want that), but because of the conditions for an NTR are theoretically at their greatest if the MC aligns with the mindset of the harem fantasy described above.
 
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yeah no. Harem is simply having a lot of whatever you like at your disposal. That simple. Think about king's harem's of the past (like actually history). Within many harem's were plenty of people simply taken, forced to, etc. People in the harem weren't always devoted, and being taken/forces is part of why along with the fact that they didn't always have a real emotional connection to the person they were in the harem of that they weren't always devoted. Point is, some kings gave 2 shits about conquering in the sense that you described. Some did not.

In regards to porn games we are talking fantasies. So what constitutes a harem can wildly range. For some people they want to conquer feelings and go through much of what you described. For some people that simple just want to have multiple girls that are just their girls and no one else can touch them. Within that segment their are some people that want girls that are just theirs and have never been touched by anyone else and never will be touched by anyone else. Sometimes those people will be open to a girl that has been with some other girl, IF that girl will never be with some other person EVER again. Those people like those girls because they are theirs and just theirs. Hell some even go as far as refusing to view the girl as part of the harem still if the girl is "tainted" by some other person (some or more forgiving if said other person is female).

One can make a really good NTR out of that because the conditions for jealousy and lost love are really strong in such a scenario, but that would be at the expense of the fantasy of the harem lover, as NTR directly conflicts with the "never will be touched by anyone else". It truly is oil and water, because because for many harem lovers, netorare IS the destruction of their fantasy. Hence, people get angry and actively try to learn if NTR is avoidable because they want to have their fantasy and they don't want their fantasy tainted/destroyed. Ironically this has the ability to make NTR people happy, not so much because they are ruining someone else's fantasy (well...some people actually want that), but because of the conditions for an NTR are theoretically at their greatest if the MC aligns with the mindset of the harem fantasy described above.
I understand what you are saying - and even agree with basically everything.
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But the fantasy alone is not enough to write an engaging plot longer than 10 min.
I already had this exact discussion with another person on this thread - and he couldn't answer. Maybe you can, idk:
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Always.
The point is to go around stealing the Captains Wives. And some of his daughters. And sometimes at the same time.
The player can easily fuck up though and get to watch his fat ass do dirty things to your girls. But those paths will quickly lead to a bad end.
You should really emphasize that ntr is avoidable and the actual main goal is to avoid it.
Most people that do not like ntr will just avoid this page like the plague on seeing the ntr tag.
If the setup of the game is like Power Vacuum even if this has no switch make it clear, you will get a lot more interest......................

EDIT : Never mind,,,, after 5 minutes of play you already get to see the capt get his dick sucked......
Fuck this shit... i'm out... deff. not for me.
Good luck on the rest of your game dev,,,
 
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TheBigWater

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Oh. I read again the posts. Does it mean that NTR scenes will be only side story that will always result in early end/bad end?
 

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Afternoon Ahterin
This version won't run on my Mac. Getting the "app can't run" error. Any ideas?
Thanks
I wouldn't even be able to begin to figure out what's going wrong with it. I unfortunately don't have a mac to test it on. ; ;
I do have a subscriber for whom it's working. My only guess is that the download was corrupted? Try using the Workupload or Mega links. I do appologize.
 
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I wouldn't even be able to begin to figure out what's going wrong with it. I unfortunately don't have a mac to test it on. ; ;
I do have a subscriber for whom it's working. My only guess is that the download was corrupted? Try using the Workupload or Mega links. I do appologize.

No apology need fren. I'm certain it's on my end. I tend to poke around under the hood of my Mac unnecessarily.
 

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I wouldn't even be able to begin to figure out what's going wrong with it. I unfortunately don't have a mac to test it on. ; ;
I do have a subscriber for whom it's working. My only guess is that the download was corrupted? Try using the Workupload or Mega links. I do appologize.

I figued it out in case anyone has the same issue.

If you double-click the zip, the default utility will unzip it (Archive Utility).
Instead, control-click or right click and open with The Unarchiver or maybe a third party app.
Seems whichever app you used to zip it up is not playing well with Archive Utility. Apple just updated Sequoia so that may be the issue.

Thanks again for the response and especially the game.
 
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I figued it out in case anyone has the same issue.

If you double-click the zip, the default utility will unzip it (Archive Utility).
Instead, control-click or right click and open with The Unarchiver or maybe a third party app.
Seems whichever app you used to zip it up is not playing well with Archive Utility. Apple just updated Sequoia so that may be the issue.

Thanks again for the response and especially the game.
Aaah. I do crack it open to compress the archive files then use 7zip to put it back together again. Ill do some cursory research on the protocols being used and update my 7zip before next time. Glad you got it to work!
 
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