T4t0rt

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Could I check your savedata? I have no idea why this happens.
Sure. The thing is: i have the unit/s defending a position, i save, loading out, i reload, lets' say, the next day and surprise: the units are no more in the place they were guarding. And you notice that quite easily: some places are totally unguarded, when maybe the day before you placed almost an entire army in that location.
 

dekeche

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Hmm.... Jean's a bit OP, on hard at least. They get enough elemental charge per turn that they can basically keep their healing/damage field up indefinitely, and their shield keeps getting re-charged. Had 2 megachurls and 1 lawachurl left after taking out everything else, and wasn't able to get any damage to stick. Couldn't deal enough damage to lower her defenses, and wasn't able to capture with the lawachurl. I think I could have won the fight eventually, the lawachurl kept breaking her shield and trying to capture, while the megachurls kept her on lock-down fairly easily. But with how low the capture chance seemed to be at 967 defense vs however much attack 40 Dendro hilichurl minions have? Would have probably taken acutal hours to finish. So, maybe there should be an exhaustion mechanic? Something where, even if a unit heals from damage, their defense decreases or they become more suseptible to capture? I don't think something like that would effect whether you'd win a battle, but it would make battles take less time.
 

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Hmm.... Jean's a bit OP, on hard at least. They get enough elemental charge per turn that they can basically keep their healing/damage field up indefinitely, and their shield keeps getting re-charged. Had 2 megachurls and 1 lawachurl left after taking out everything else, and wasn't able to get any damage to stick. Couldn't deal enough damage to lower her defenses, and wasn't able to capture with the lawachurl. I think I could have won the fight eventually, the lawachurl kept breaking her shield and trying to capture, while the megachurls kept her on lock-down fairly easily. But with how low the capture chance seemed to be at 967 defense vs however much attack 40 Dendro hilichurl minions have? Would have probably taken acutal hours to finish. So, maybe there should be an exhaustion mechanic? Something where, even if a unit heals from damage, their defense decreases or they become more suseptible to capture? I don't think something like that would effect whether you'd win a battle, but it would make battles take less time.

In previous versions, units didn't reappear in city battles. Retreating and bringing more units could be a good options in this situation.
 

dekeche

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In previous versions, units didn't reappear in city battles. Retreating and bringing more units could be a good options in this situation.
That is an option, but it doesn't exactly feel good to retreat from a battle that you've already won. Plus, doing that prevents you from getting any of the elemental cores the storm eyes have. Plus... you'll want those elite knight captures to fully colonize Mondstadt. So there's good reasons to not retreat. I ended up re-doing the battle a few times until I was able to kill the archon and eyes without taking too many losses.
 

AiN99

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I want to capture the loli characters, or at least draw the lolis in the form of teenagers.
 

Yddrasil

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Just started the game, and I am not a gambling addict genshin player, so if anyone can answer a few questions about how the elements works that would be very much appreciated:

  1. are certain enemies weak against certain elements or elemental reactions? I see that, for example, dvalin has ameno resistance, but in my fight with hilichurl archers of equal stats, vaporize seemed to out-damage stuff like corrosion, which are not anemo-related.
  2. do certain units innately have an element that is always present for reactions? sometimes I see reactions that is procc'ed by a single attack and I am not certain why.
  3. what is the effect of shield elements? do they grant resistance
  4. more generally, how is damage calculated? my 290 atk lawachurl deals 3 damage per hit against a 240 def eye of the storm, while I seem to remember instances where the attacker has less atk than the defender has def while still dealing decent (non-elemental) damage.
  5. when forming a unit, there is 2 atk stat if there are units attached to the leader; what does the second number affect?
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I am currently at the crane and buck fight in hard difficulty, and this this as my roster I have not found a combo that deals reasonable damage against them; same with the eyes of the storms that venti has.
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dekeche

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Out of curiosity, are invisible enemies invincible? I used some lawachurls against Mona, and their jump attacks didn't seem to do anything. Same thing happens with the ninjas. Is it just that I'm not hitting where they are, or that they are invulnerable while invisible?
 

fenrir5034

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Is there a sustainable way of farming unusual hilichurls?
there is a training NPC that gives unusual hilichurls for like 400??? regular churls i think it was, but i don´t remember where i got her from check the npcs you have and its probably the highest hilichurl cost one.
 

Yddrasil

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Out of curiosity, are invisible enemies invincible? I used some lawachurls against Mona, and their jump attacks didn't seem to do anything. Same thing happens with the ninjas. Is it just that I'm not hitting where they are, or that they are invulnerable while invisible?
I experienced the same thing with lawachurls, but the vine traps that the samachurls puts out can kill invisible ninjas.
 

dekeche

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I experienced the same thing with lawachurls, but the vine traps that the samachurls puts out can kill invisible ninjas.
But do they kill them when the ninjas move? Or when the ninjas decloak? Because I've seen the megachurl cabbages killing them after they decloak, but not before.
 

flannan

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Just started the game, and I am not a gambling addict genshin player, so if anyone can answer a few questions about how the elements works that would be very much appreciated:

  1. are certain enemies weak against certain elements or elemental reactions? I see that, for example, dvalin has ameno resistance, but in my fight with hilichurl archers of equal stats, vaporize seemed to out-damage stuff like corrosion, which are not anemo-related.
  2. do certain units innately have an element that is always present for reactions? sometimes I see reactions that is procc'ed by a single attack and I am not certain why.
  3. what is the effect of shield elements? do they grant resistance
  4. more generally, how is damage calculated? my 290 atk lawachurl deals 3 damage per hit against a 240 def eye of the storm, while I seem to remember instances where the attacker has less atk than the defender has def while still dealing decent (non-elemental) damage.
  5. when forming a unit, there is 2 atk stat if there are units attached to the leader; what does the second number affect?
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I am currently at the crane and buck fight in hard difficulty, and this this as my roster I have not found a combo that deals reasonable damage against them; same with the eyes of the storms that venti has.
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Okay, I am a Genshin player (and quite a fan, I guess).

1. Yes, elemental beings are usually strong against their own element. I haven't heard anything about being strong against elemental reactions, but elemental reactions are not born equal. The main difference being between elemental reactions that multiply existing damage, like Vaporize, and create a new instance of damage, like Overload.
Nycto is not an element in Genshin Impact (although the influence of the Abyss is present in many forms, some of them damaging), and so I can't tell you much about their reactions.
2. Some particularly pure elemental creatures, like slimes, innately have their own element applied to them. A few other enemies can apply their own element to themselves, in particular Barbara is prone to that.
And I heard that in this game, slimes attached to a unit can apply additional elements to attacks, much like enemy adventurers can do it.
I'm not sure if it's already in the game, but terrain may apply elements too.
3. Shields (except for Geo shields) take less damage from their own element, and are best defeated by elements that cause elemental reactions with them.
4. I don't know. This is not Genshin Impact, after all.
From what I heard, difficulty levels change how this calculation is done. So it should be a more straightforward calculation on Normal difficulty.
5. I think the first number is attack power of leader alone, while the second number is with their support group. As enemies take out supports, the group's attack power will diminish.

With eyes of the storm, try basic elements: Pyro (fire), Cryo (ice), Hydro (water) and Electro (lightning).
Adepti Moon Carver (stag) and Mountain Shaper (crane) are NPCs in Genshin Impact, and their powers are not well-known. Except that they are very strong. But Hilichurls' Ambition puts many other beings within Hilichurls' reach, including other adepti, so it should be possible to fight them. Just know that they are supposed to be this strong.
 
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Yddrasil

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But do they kill them when the ninjas move? Or when the ninjas decloak? Because I've seen the megachurl cabbages killing them after they decloak, but not before.
Visually I see the trap's animation and I never see the ninja's model, though I don't have a clue how it is actually coded and ahve no clue whether its at the middle or end of their turn. I do admit that they only die on their action, so that would support the idea that they are invulnerable.
 

Baphomet87

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In addition to what flannan's said, I've found the drag-n-drop to be a little finicky at times. If your still having issues with a valid target, try dropping them a bit lower down on the alter. Just overlapping the heroine with the alter doesn't always register what you're trying to do.
where exactly are you supposed to drop them at on the alter?? on the cross, the floor(circle part) hang them from the top? i literally cannot find the spot at all.. ive been droppin her EVERYWHERE and nothing is taking...
 
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