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Can I just ask, this whole theme about finding out *cough definitely legal age* high school girl is dating someone and then blackmailing them has appeared a lot in games and doujin/mangas. I've never been to Japan, but a rule against relationships seems to be really fucking retarded. I hope it's just a cliche NTR thing, but if that really is a rule that a lot of schools in Japan follow, I would sincerely question their basic understanding of humanity. LOL.
 
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Emerald_Gladiator

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I respect that you took the time to translate the game, however most people generally dislike it if creative liberties were taken on the translation and than finding out later. It feels almost like false advertising almost. I would rather just use a machine translator to play the game if I find the creative liberties were bad enough. Most people would feel better if you were more transparent about the translation process.

anyways ty for bringing attention of this game to all of us.
Absolutely right. As I've said before, it's the first time I've gone a bit too far, and I acknowledge that. Given the pushback, I'll be more transparent in the future.

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Can I just ask, this whole theme about finding out *cough definitely legal age* high school girl is dating someone and then blackmailing them has appeared a lot in games and doujin/mangas. I've never been to Japan, but a rule against relationships seems to be really fucking retarded. I hope it's just a cliche NTR thing, but if that really is a rule that a lot of schools in Japan follow, I would sincerely question their basic understanding of humanity. LOL.
I can't answer your question, but where I'm from, I think we've got rules against that too, especially when considering the legal age part of your question and the context of a older person in a position of authority being in a (sexual) relationship with a much younger person. Not gonna input my opinion if that's right or wrong, of course. And I dunno where everyone else is from either, so I can't really say if that's a more common rule.
 

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I would get a VPN service if I could, but unfortunately too poor to afford one rn lmfao. I was looking to see if there were free VPN services but it seemed kinda sketch.
try mullvad. 5 bucks/month and its a one by one month subscription system. meaning you dont need to do any of that weird 1 year+ subscription shit that many other services do. you just pay 5 bucks and get 30 days of VPN and thats it. you dont even need to cancel it, since it automatically cancels after 30 days. very consumer friendly.
 

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Yeah idk why people care - if the original author can put their fetishes into a game, why can't a translator? We do shit we enjoy. I am benefited by your enjoyment of translating - 100% agree I would not have ever even known this game existed if you hadn't translated. It was actually worth playing and, as I mentioned in my review, I'm not sure if it was your translation or the author but the dialogs and descriptive texts were a positive note.

However, I also agree the description of OP should probably be modified for (example) folks who find the description of the game elsewhere and come here to try it. Maybe a translators notes section or something. I know this isn't something you personally can change, btw, just rounding out the thought.
Note: I have NOT played this game. I just randomly found this comment and want to reply to it, but I don't have any knowledge or background here, so with that being said, here is my opinion on this:

on one hand, beggers can't be choosers. I'm happy when people translate shit for me. So personally, I wouldn't trash talk them over it.

But on the other hand, it also kinda rubs me the wrong way. Example: Have you heard of people on twitter, taking someones fanart and changing it, like swapping skin/race or whatever and repost it, saying "I fixed it?"

Or people translating manga and changing the story a little or race or skin or lore or other stuff to insert their fetishes and agenda?

This is essentially the same thing. If a translater changes shit like this then it rubs me the wrong way.
again; not as hard that I would go out of my way to trash talk the dude, since I'm glad I get a free translation in the first place, but still.

All in all, I don't think it's a good idea. But yeah it is what it is. I'm not too mad about stuff like this.

HOWEVER: One thing I really wish for is when people do that, they should at least disclose it. For example when you click "New Game" it shows a message, telling you "hey im translator blabla support me on my patreon blabla btw I changed the story/character/lore a little bit, check out the readme in the folder for further details"

something like that. I think this is fair.

Maybe the dude in question even did that; like I said, I didn't play the game, I have no clue. I just wanted to comment on your comment.
 

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there is no hypocrisy in what I said: I use strong words or even insult when I talk about things and you can do the same about me, and I can agree with you or laugh with you about something else entirely 5 minutes later. that's all I'm saying.

What I don't understand is that you keep saying things that are exactly the problem I have with your work and still goes "oh I don't understand". well, you know... "if you don't like it, move on", "do it yourself" yeah, I can say the EXACT same. Go on, do your OWN game instead of changing things to your OWN taste. When people come for a translation, they expect... well, a translation, not your fantasy...

I despise any and all translator that change things instead of translating faithfully. official, fan, doesn't matter, It's not that deep : I believe it to be the most direspectfull things you can do. The creator did the things as they wanted and you're in no position to change it because "you like it better that way". that's my belief.

By the way, you're the one who brought the whole "next time I can privatize it", I was just jumping on it.
 

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I can't answer your question, but where I'm from, I think we've got rules against that too, especially when considering the legal age part of your question and the context of a older person in a position of authority being in a (sexual) relationship with a much younger person. Not gonna input my opinion if that's right or wrong, of course. And I dunno where everyone else is from either, so I can't really say if that's a more common rule.
Oh, I would understand if one was a student and the other in a position of authority. But in a lot of NTr, it's just two students. Hence my confusion.
 

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Oh, I would understand if one was a student and the other in a position of authority. But in a lot of NTr, it's just two students. Hence my confusion.
Are you referring to reality or fiction? If you're referring to reality, in Japan, schools are for studying, therefore romantic relationships are prohibited in schools. It all depends on the type of school. The more prestigious it is, the stricter it is in both rules and academics. Prohibiting romance is not the norm. It depends on the school. Some prohibit it only on campus, while others prohibit it even when you're outside. But we're talking about schools. If we're talking about universities, they are more permissive in that regard.


It is understood that schools are places to focus on studies and not a place to find a girlfriend. This is convenient for the NTR plot since it is a blackmail element.
What happens if they discover you? They expel you. What will your parents say about, all the money your parents paid or your club......... and then you have a NTR plot . Well, we all know what happens. It is quite common for there to be couples, but for reasons of prohibition, they tend to remain in secret.
 
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Oh, I would understand if one was a student and the other in a position of authority. But in a lot of NTr, it's just two students. Hence my confusion.
Ah, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were referring to games like these, where it's a teacher and a student.

Are you referring to reality or fiction? If you're referring to reality, in Japan, schools are for studying, therefore romantic relationships are prohibited in schools. It all depends on the type of school. The more prestigious it is, the stricter it is in both rules and academics. Prohibiting romance is not the norm. It depends on the school. Some prohibit it only on campus, while others prohibit it even when you're outside. But we're talking about schools. If we're talking about universities, they are more permissive in that regard.


It is understood that schools are places to focus on studies and not a place to find a girlfriend. This is convenient for the NTR plot since it is a blackmail element.
What happens if they discover you? They expel you. What will your parents say about, all the money your parents paid or your club......... and then you have a NTR plot . Well, we all know what happens. It is quite common for there to be couples, but for reasons of prohibition, they tend to remain in secret.
Hmmm, I actually didn't know that. And yeah, that makes a ton of sense as a genre in H-games. Thanks for the context.

HOWEVER: One thing I really wish for is when people do that, they should at least disclose it. For example when you click "New Game" it shows a message, telling you "hey im translator blabla support me on my patreon blabla btw I changed the story/character/lore a little bit, check out the readme in the folder for further details"
Yeah, that's the feedback I've been getting. Honestly though, I do change at least a few things in almost every game I've translated. It'd be silly to name everything I've changed. However, as obviously stated, I've never done it to this extent, and I'll absolutely be providing some sort of disclosure in the future. Thanks for being civil.
 

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Example: Have you heard of people on twitter, taking someones fanart and changing it, like swapping skin/race or whatever and repost it, saying "I fixed it?"

Or people translating manga and changing the story a little or race or skin or lore or other stuff to insert their fetishes and agenda?
To me this specific topic is different because I would have had no opportunity to enjoy this game without this translator doing what they did. I can enjoy someone's fanart, or manga that has good translations, or whatever. This game? Literally would have never known it exists without the translator, and I can almost guarantee you that the original developer has absolutely no plans to allow me to enjoy it (AKA do their own translation) - unless of course they hear about this and decide to do one out of spite lol, but then I think my argument still holds - would not have been able to consume without the translator's actions

I think we're saying the same thing otherwise.
 
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Yeah idk why people care - if the original author can put their fetishes into a game, why can't a translator? We do shit we enjoy. I am benefited by your enjoyment of translating - 100% agree I would not have ever even known this game existed if you hadn't translated. It was actually worth playing and, as I mentioned in my review, I'm not sure if it was your translation or the author but the dialogs and descriptive texts were a positive note.

However, I also agree the description of OP should probably be modified for (example) folks who find the description of the game elsewhere and come here to try it. Maybe a translators notes section or something. I know this isn't something you personally can change, btw, just rounding out the thought.
Because the translator's job is to accurately translate the original work's meaning and intent. How far do you want to take the translator's liberties? Changing the age? Changing the entire story? In a way, he kind of did even if it is still functionally the same.

The furthest translators typically go is replacing some meanings/symbolism/jokes that are way too culturally specific to know or understand. And even then that's debatable.

However, this translator did it for free and on their own time so this is more or less a fanfiction. I personally dislike 'games' that just use established IP characters/setting. Seems disrespectful at worst and lazy at best.
 

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Very naughty, especially the training scenes with teacher. Good FMC design, looks straight outta some anime.
But man there are so much unexciting dialogues. It makes me wanna skip and get to the class, where the real fun begins honestly.
 

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Because the translator's job is to accurately translate the original work's meaning and intent. How far do you want to take the translator's liberties? Changing the age? Changing the entire story? In a way, he kind of did even if it is still functionally the same.

The furthest translators typically go is replacing some meanings/symbolism/jokes that are way too culturally specific to know or understand. And even then that's debatable.

However, this translator did it for free and on their own time so this is more or less a fanfiction. I personally dislike 'games' that just use established IP characters/setting. Seems disrespectful at worst and lazy at best.
need the clown emoji react to this lol

Personally I found the translator's self insert as the nerd funny lmao but the game being a save scum was too much of a tl;dr so i skipped through mid way. Really great job with the translations though it was pretty comedic and entertaining,but the way the game is designed throwing you right in the gallery viewer kinda doesn't make you wanna earn the scenes

idk what ya'll yapping about, stop writing thesis over a h game,go gpt4 with mtool or something if you're so keen on contextual accuracy over a hour long casual goon game
 
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