Wankers Cramp

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Hello my fellow degenerates. It's been a bit since I've poked my head in here. It's good to see that people are enjoying how the story is unfolding. Only a couple more chapters until I start really diving into the next game. I hope you all look forward to playing as much as I look forward to making it!



You know it's in the first post right?
I am enjoying it a lot (and I've been subbed to you since the first release) I just think that you need to commit to making things "fair" for jake and Aki kinda needs a reality check on how shitty she's been. I can suspend disbelief a good bit cuz the scenes are pretty fucking hot and well done and I genuinely like the characters; I just think there's a tonal inconsistency between how Jake is treated and what Aki says. Especially considering she has the gall to get angry at him (or is it her now?) for fucking the maids.
 

Creator Seez

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I am enjoying it a lot (and I've been subbed to you since the first release) I just think that you need to commit to making things "fair" for jake and Aki kinda needs a reality check on how shitty she's been. I can suspend disbelief a good bit cuz the scenes are pretty fucking hot and well done and I genuinely like the characters; I just think there's a tonal inconsistency between how Jake is treated and what Aki says. Especially considering she has the gall to get angry at him (or is it her now?) for fucking the maids.
This is more of a general response to the sentiment and not specifically what you've said.

It's kinda funny when people say that the stuff happening in the game is "unrealistic/unbelievable." A lot of this is pulled from my irl work experience because I deal with spousal cheating quite a lot. (I work as a private investigator). This doesn't even come close to some of the stuff I've seen people do, say or believe. So much so that I felt like I had to tone it down to be somewhat believable. So when I have people say things like "this would never happen" I just kinda shrug because they probably just haven't experienced it personally or through someone they know. Don't get me wrong though, some scenes certainly are hammed up for the sake of the fetish.

Some of that is just down to the fact that I can only show so much of what is going on and still get the game finished in a reasonable time frame. Some things just have to be cut out and inferred/assumed by the player. I mean shit, there are people rating the game low because of how much dialogue I've put into the game LOL. Oh well.

To your point though:
The inconsistency is on purpose. Cheaters are like that. They find a way to justify their bad actions through emotional "logic".
No spoilers, but things are coming to a head soon and there will be fallout.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
 

Kanade07

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This is more of a general response to the sentiment and not specifically what you've said.

It's kinda funny when people say that the stuff happening in the game is "unrealistic/unbelievable." A lot of this is pulled from my irl work experience because I deal with spousal cheating quite a lot. (I work as a private investigator). This doesn't even come close to some of the stuff I've seen people do, say or believe. So much so that I felt like I had to tone it down to be somewhat believable. So when I have people say things like "this would never happen" I just kinda shrug because they probably just haven't experienced it personally or through someone they know. Don't get me wrong though, some scenes certainly are hammed up for the sake of the fetish.

Some of that is just down to the fact that I can only show so much of what is going on and still get the game finished in a reasonable time frame. Some things just have to be cut out and inferred/assumed by the player. I mean shit, there are people rating the game low because of how much dialogue I've put into the game LOL. Oh well.

To your point though:
The inconsistency is on purpose. Cheaters are like that. They find a way to justify their bad actions through emotional "logic".
No spoilers, but things are coming to a head soon and there will be fallout.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
damn, i am actually quite surprised by your profession. didn't expected someone who is PI to be into futa and even make a game about it. how do you find time to work on the game? also for the people who complain about dialogue i usually skip all the dialogues but for your game i read most of the dialogues and i feel quite a bit sad for Jake tbh. so hopefully he gets some justice later on. love your work ☆*: .。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
 

Creator Seez

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damn, i am actually quite surprised by your profession. didn't expected someone who is PI to be into futa and even make a game about it. how do you find time to work on the game? also for the people who complain about dialogue i usually skip all the dialogues but for your game i read most of the dialogues and i feel quite a bit sad for Jake tbh. so hopefully he gets some justice later on. love your work ☆*: .。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
I'm sure if people on this site started saying what they do for a living 99% of them would have normal ass jobs too lol. These days the PI work is my side work. I pick it up when the game doesn't make enough money for me to pay rent or a bill. I'm lucky that one of my best friends owns a PI company and just needs a hand every once in a while. It's easy money for me but it is sporadic.
 

Wankers Cramp

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This is more of a general response to the sentiment and not specifically what you've said.

It's kinda funny when people say that the stuff happening in the game is "unrealistic/unbelievable." A lot of this is pulled from my irl work experience because I deal with spousal cheating quite a lot. (I work as a private investigator). This doesn't even come close to some of the stuff I've seen people do, say or believe. So much so that I felt like I had to tone it down to be somewhat believable. So when I have people say things like "this would never happen" I just kinda shrug because they probably just haven't experienced it personally or through someone they know. Don't get me wrong though, some scenes certainly are hammed up for the sake of the fetish.

Some of that is just down to the fact that I can only show so much of what is going on and still get the game finished in a reasonable time frame. Some things just have to be cut out and inferred/assumed by the player. I mean shit, there are people rating the game low because of how much dialogue I've put into the game LOL. Oh well.

To your point though:
The inconsistency is on purpose. Cheaters are like that. They find a way to justify their bad actions through emotional "logic".
No spoilers, but things are coming to a head soon and there will be fallout.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Yeah I can definitely see your POV. I don't think these situations are unrealistic in terms of *what's* happening more that it's just kinda frustrating I guess? Like I know that cheaters are wildly inconsistent and any "boundaries" they put for themselves will always be broken. I mean if you're the type of person to cheat you're inherently flawed as a person so it makes sense. I just feel like there's a tonal inconsistency with how Jake is treated by Aki (and even other characters) and I'd like to see them get some "payback". I guess I'm just confused on the route you're going with the character because it **is** interesting, like don't get me wrong, I didn't think a porn game would suck me in like this but at the same time mannnn is it annoying. I guess it's one of those situations where I find Aki just grating (she's hot though I like her sister/mother more) and I kinda prefer Jake? It's difficult to parse out though and I'm not trying to say you're doing a bad job at all or that you're being unrealistic. More that the whiplash you experience with how Jake is treated honestly feels very varied from patch to patch. Like it felt like the "cuckening" stuff was just going to make him submissive as fuck which can be hot but now he's more dominant? I get that the transformation process is like that and I am viewing it from the lens of someone participating in an incomplete product but just kinda wanted to probe your thoughts on it. Your final line gives me faith though, thanks for the reply and as always good work. I've been saying that since the first release you really are among the better creators on the site.

Also your personal anecdote is interesting.

PS all things stated I do like Jake and Aki as a couple, I think they balance eachother well, I just think that an expectation of Jake forgiving her because he loves her is too illogical even for a story like this lol (cuz it's kinda obvious that's where this is going imo) Jake needs something to make things "even" or he needs something as "payback" for them to continue without resentment building. I'd just like Jake to get some payback and for Aki to get *some* blowback. Nothing insane but you know a solid slap and a few sad days for her would do her some good in terms of the story I think personally. I kinda get the vibe you're going with in terms of Jake getting his "payback" with Gideon and I am looking forward to it. I think like the other poster said I just feel bad for Jake. You did too good of a job with making them likeable. I'm not hard into the ntr-fetish though it doesn't bother me. An interesting story and good dialogue (and grammar) is what really pulls me in and you did a good job of mixing a fantasy-lite story with adult themes which is really rare I find.

Of all the characters I think I like him the most but maybe it's because he has the least characterization so far, not to imply your characters are bad just that I can push my own views with Gideon easier really.

that said I'm probably way over analyzing things (which is a personal fault of mine) and everything said and done I'll continue to support this (and your next project) because you're a very talented person when it comes to this. It's a shame porn/ero games aren't more accepted in the public view, you have a legitimate talent when it comes to this.


Give me more Saria too! She's my favorite of the female cast.
 
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Creator Seez

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Yeah I can definitely see your POV. I don't think these situations are unrealistic in terms of *what's* happening more that it's just kinda frustrating I guess? Like I know that cheaters are wildly inconsistent and any "boundaries" they put for themselves will always be broken. I mean if you're the type of person to cheat you're inherently flawed as a person so it makes sense. I just feel like there's a tonal inconsistency with how Jake is treated by Aki (and even other characters) and I'd like to see them get some "payback". I guess I'm just confused on the route you're going with the character because it **is** interesting, like don't get me wrong, I didn't think a porn game would suck me in like this but at the same time mannnn is it annoying. I guess it's one of those situations where I find Aki just grating (she's hot though I like her sister/mother more) and I kinda prefer Jake? It's difficult to parse out though and I'm not trying to say you're doing a bad job at all or that you're being unrealistic. More that the whiplash you experience with how Jake is treated honestly feels very varied from patch to patch. Like it felt like the "cuckening" stuff was just going to make him submissive as fuck which can be hot but now he's more dominant? I get that the transformation process is like that and I am viewing it from the lens of someone participating in an incomplete product but just kinda wanted to probe your thoughts on it. Your final line gives me faith though, thanks for the reply and as always good work. I've been saying that since the first release you really are among the better creators on the site.

Also your personal anecdote is interesting.

PS all things stated I do like Jake and Aki as a couple, I think they balance eachother well, I just think that an expectation of Jake forgiving her because he loves her is too illogical even for a story like this lol (cuz it's kinda obvious that's where this is going imo) Jake needs something to make things "even" or he needs something as "payback" for them to continue without resentment building. I'd just like Jake to get some payback and for Aki to get *some* blowback. Nothing insane but you know a solid slap and a few sad days for her would do her some good in terms of the story I think personally. I kinda get the vibe you're going with in terms of Jake getting his "payback" with Gideon and I am looking forward to it. I think like the other poster said I just feel bad for Jake. You did too good of a job with making them likeable. I'm not hard into the ntr-fetish though it doesn't bother me. An interesting story and good dialogue (and grammar) is what really pulls me in and you did a good job of mixing a fantasy-lite story with adult themes which is really rare I find.

Of all the characters I think I like him the most but maybe it's because he has the least characterization so far, not to imply your characters are bad just that I can push my own views with Gideon easier really.

that said I'm probably way over analyzing things (which is a personal fault of mine) and everything said and done I'll continue to support this (and your next project) because you're a very talented person when it comes to this. It's a shame porn/ero games aren't more accepted in the public view, you have a legitimate talent when it comes to this.


Give me more Saria too! She's my favorite of the female cast.
I too am a Saria enjoyer.

Jake has been the biggest issue with the game to be fair. The problem is that I wrote all of this with the idea that I would be making two games (Technically three but that is besides the point.) Each following the POV of one character Aki, Jake and Wyn. After I got about half way through Aki I decided I really didn't want to make the other two. I really want to make fantasy stories not modern setting ones. So we never really get to see what Jake is going through or thinking about.

I have all of his stuff outlined and I made sure that the bits we do see are consistent with his story arc so that if I ever decide to make his game it make's sense. (I wont be but you never know). It's one of those "trust me it makes sense" kinda situations but I know how unsatisfying that is as a player.

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bamp65

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This was amazing. I enjoyed the heck out it. Anyone know any other Futa NTR/NTL games beside this? (besides Futa Family & Futa's World of NTR)
 
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lolzmandude

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honestly, I'm kinda just hoping they all end up coming clean and end up stronger being all together at once. I expect there will be some kind of fallout but... even though there has been some "shitty behaviour" I do think they deserve to be happy together. I still think Aki truly loves her husband and he/soon-to-be-she? loves her. idk man, broken love makes me sad even though the scenes are hot so if the planned story is for it to end broken then that is something I want to know before I continue to care about these characters.
 

Vongolai

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I skipped some part, and mostly went for the scenes, but if I remember right, Aki was corrupted by the typical futa cum, without her knowing it first, and same for Jake, he was hypnotized/bewitched, by Nicole's wife. So Aki's behavior is not her fault, the others only gaslight her to make her belive it she is doing it herself. But what i dont know, what Nicole and the others want to do? They talk about if they will forgive them that what they will do and things like that. I dont know if I skipped when they talked about it, or its not revealed yet.
 

Asura066

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I skipped some part, and mostly went for the scenes, but if I remember right, Aki was corrupted by the typical futa cum, without her knowing it first, and same for Jake, he was hypnotized/bewitched, by Nicole's wife. So Aki's behavior is not her fault, the others only gaslight her to make her belive it she is doing it herself. But what i dont know, what Nicole and the others want to do? They talk about if they will forgive them that what they will do and things like that. I dont know if I skipped when they talked about it, or its not revealed yet.
Nah at one point she just accepted it and it is normal for her. I think they both should go their separate ways after he gets even. He should have the choice to change back if he wants.
 

paypayon

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I get a message of Error Failed to Initialize Graphics when trying to open the game. Any possible simple solutions? I have played other RPGM games and didn't had this problem, this is the first time that i see it.
 

Vongolai

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Nah at one point she just accepted it and it is normal for her. I think they both should go their separate ways after he gets even. He should have the choice to change back if he wants.
Yeah I remember that. but she was never released from the futa cum charm :D They told her why she was feeling it, but thats it. What they did to her is the same method for sexworkers, make them dependant on drugs, and than you have it, sluts who do anything for their fix, just like our Aki.
 

paypayon

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I get a message of Error Failed to Initialize Graphics when trying to open the game. Any possible simple solutions? I have played other RPGM games and didn't had this problem, this is the first time that i see it.
Has no one else had this problem here? I would like to play the game, but having no luck on solving the problem. I tried searching the internet for a fix, but have found nothing. The only thing that i found was to try to use the command "chromium-args": "--enable-webgl --ignore-gpu-blacklist", to edit the package file, but it didn't work.

My PC is a bit old, but i have played other RPGM games before and never encountered this problem.
 

Versace217

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Has no one else had this problem here? I would like to play the game, but having no luck on solving the problem. I tried searching the internet for a fix, but have found nothing. The only thing that i found was to try to use the command "chromium-args": "--enable-webgl --ignore-gpu-blacklist", to edit the package file, but it didn't work.

My PC is a bit old, but i have played other RPGM games before and never encountered this problem.
Sorry man, I've never had this issue. You can approach the dev on his discord to maybe find out what's causing it.
 

Asura066

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Has no one else had this problem here? I would like to play the game, but having no luck on solving the problem. I tried searching the internet for a fix, but have found nothing. The only thing that i found was to try to use the command "chromium-args": "--enable-webgl --ignore-gpu-blacklist", to edit the package file, but it didn't work.

My PC is a bit old, but i have played other RPGM games before and never encountered this problem.
Did you try the following?:
1. Update your drivers (gpu)
2. Install the game else where (ex. like your desktop)
3. reinstall rpg maker mz packages from their website
4. Redownload the game and try step 1-3 again
 
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