Ren'Py Holiday Island [v0.4.5.1] [darkhound1]

darkhound1 · Aug 2, 2019

sfcpres said:
Anyone else come across this issue in 1.7.2? In using the directional keys in the gui to see where the girls are I get an exception error. I can click ignore and return to the game on this however.

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I am also still experiencing an exception error when I go to the phone and click on the Girls Widget. I cannot get out of this error and must terminate the game.

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I went back to v1.5.1 and reloaded all the updates and I still get these two errors. I don't have a MOD installed in the game and I've only used the console to edit on DH's advice for the Widget error.

Has anyone encountered either of these errors? Any corrections in the console that will eliminate these would be appreciated. Thank you for your help. I really enjoy this game and the progression with all the girls. This site has been a great help in getting the most out of the game (though I must admit I gave up on Yumiko's Easter Egg - couldn't flip the quarter that far).

Open the console and type this:
g_phone.show_inactive_chars = True
I think I've written this somewhere already. It's part of the update and if the update to 0.1.7.0 ran through without errors, you should not have this problem.
In any case if you type exactly what I wrote above and don't roll back beyond that point afterwards, it will work. If it doesn't, you did not type it in correctly.
Only because you still might get a crash after you typed it in, it doesn't mean it's the same error. Check the text. Mabye there are more things missing or wrong.

qvb222 · Aug 2, 2019

duckswimming said:
Votes : Patreon Votes

Question: How is this voting done? Was it a one-time vote? Ongoing?

The problem I seen with this method that it is bound to create a feedback loop. Girls that were popular at one point in time are getting boosts because of the pure amount of content, while lesser girls are hindered by a continuing lack of content.
Actually a textbook example of democracy misunderstood. Difference between voting on who gets content *first* vs who gets content *at all*...

DuckSwim · Aug 2, 2019

qvb222 said:
Question: How is this voting done? Was it a one-time vote? Ongoing?

The problem I seen with this method that it is bound to create a feedback loop. Girls that were popular at one point in time are getting boosts because of the pure amount of content, while lesser girls are hindered by a continuing lack of content.
Actually a textbook example of democracy misunderstood. Difference between voting on who gets content *first* vs who gets content *at all*...

Sorry but I moved that quoted post to a conversation not the forum, my mistake

But to answer your question.

- The votes are recurring events and there are several forms of them : competetive, popularity, content drop. The ones relevant here are the popularity ones. The most important of these are the recurring end of year ones, where all girls participate. You can view them on Patreon.

- Popularity & Content looks like this,
(1) A girls type is everything, it defines how popular she is and how popular she can become
(2) Popularity drives Content, not the reverse.
(3) Within a group, content begins to count more and entrenches the girl relative her peers.
(4) Having gained content first is at best a tertiary predictor (and actually a negative factor once girls with content fight each other, there newer content mostly beats the oldest genertion of content, as Amy discovered the hard way, dropping from #2 to #4).

The girls type rules supreme as that is what makes them popular. Darkhound could add his Yvette/Amy hybird (Darkhound made one, she exists) tomorrow with 100 Renders and she'd place in the top 10. Probably top 8.

So loop is : Girls Type - Popularity - Content - Entrench within group of girls type. When they move is not important, at best tertiary and over time becomes a negative for some

DuckSwim · Aug 2, 2019

Oh she is actually public not patreon only, well I guess we can all survive seeing her again

(also, double post, am too lazy to fix it & she deserves a post without my walls of text

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Darkhound 2018 Amy/Yvette hybrid.

Puppet Master · Aug 2, 2019

However, voters are only highest tier patrons. Also, the way the voting is handled may not be exactly fair as once a girl becomes eliminated, her supporters switch their votes to a girl who has a chance. Also, if we did a poll here as to which girls are the most popular, a different result would be reached.
Darkhound1 has to please the paying fans by giving the top girls new content because that is what brings in the money, but perhaps a slavish devotion to a graph is not the best policy. The Creator has to also follow his muse, and that muse has huge boobs. Still he wants his game to feel complete, and as long as 5 of the girls (Ivy, Brenda, Renee, Lacey & Delizia) have half (or less) of the content of the next tier, and maybe a third of the top tier, the game feels unfinished or even unfair.
Brenda is my least fave, but I always root for her in the polls just because I feel sorry for her.
Currently the Developer is trying to get those 5 girls the basics. Lacey & Delizia will get their Receptionwear & Reception actions, but Ivy & Brenda still need them, and Lacey still needs the Sperm Congestion scenes. I realize that they have to be sneaked in while giving the paying customers what they want, but until these girls get to 30 achievements each, the game won't feel like a true sandbox because why bother keeping those 5 girls on the island.
Another big obstacle to making all the girls feel balanced is that the special girls also need a lot of content. Since the special characters are so far behind, they should have priority after the top tier girls. For instance, we're going to need to be able to play strip poker with Miriam & Mercedes. Also, what about letting the special girls compete in the Best Butt & Wet T-shirt contests. You know if Joy could participate in the contests, the contests could take place the first week on the island.
Anyway, food for thought. Everyone please chime in with their opinions.

sfcpres · Aug 2, 2019

darkhound1 said:
Open the console and type this:
g_phone.show_inactive_chars = True
I think I've written this somewhere already. It's part of the update and if the update to 0.1.7.0 ran through without errors, you should not have this problem.
In any case if you type exactly what I wrote above and don't roll back beyond that point afterwards, it will work. If it doesn't, you did not type it in correctly.
Only because you still might get a crash after you typed it in, it doesn't mean it's the same error. Check the text. Mabye there are more things missing or wrong.

DH - thanks I tried this again but I still get the error. It even gives me an error in the console as item not defined. In the traceback log it references AttributeError: 'cl_pl_phone' object has no attribute 'show_inactive_chars'

As you can image this is very frustrating, as I really enjoy this game especially to the point where you have developed. Is there a way to go into the code to check each line or is it something that is strictly done via the console?

Thank you for your patience