AmaNo04

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StudioNEOV2 Question:
I have a lot of questions...:HideThePain:
If using GraphicsMod with Hanmen texture, how much ram will it take when rendering at 4K and simultaneously rendering with multiple characters? Is 32GB of ram enough, or should I go for 64GB? Additionally, do I need a good GPU?
It depends on the preset and the scene composition itself.
How many characters when you said multiple characters?
Im running Ryzen 5 7500F, 32gigs DDR5 RAM, 6800XT on 1440p with hanmen shader. The most I can go was 20 static characters before crashing when adding the character. Note that it's not even rendering. It crashed when I'm loading the 20th chara at the position I set beforehand.

In short :
I made 12 individual scenes with different characters with only 2 characters each scenes. Single male and single female characters.
All of the individual scenes has been configured their own location, rotation and FK IK poses.
So if I could import them all, I should have 24 characters in the scenes.
But the studio crashed when I was importing 10th scenes.
Fortunately I did it while having performance graph on my secondary display.
So I got to see that the RAM has been on 100% usage since 5th scenes/10 charas.

So yeah...
You're working on 3D software. So obviously you'll need good GPU and alot of RAM.
When taking rendered screenshot, the GPU usage will goes down quite alot but your RAM usage will skyrocket.
So just my opinion, do you need 64gigs of RAM? You do. But is it worth to invest that much just for this stufio software? I don't think so.

Also just something I found recently about taking rendered screenshot.
You can just play on something like 1080p, go to F1 menu, search for "screenshot" set the resolution higher than your actual display e.g. 4k. Your rendered screenshot will has same look as your viewport while having higher res than the viewport.
I found it when I was looking for a way to get vertical image without making the camera rotated close to 90deg and manually rotating it back afterwards.
 

novaporoid

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It depends on the preset and the scene composition itself.
How many characters when you said multiple characters?
Im running Ryzen 5 7500F, 32gigs DDR5 RAM, 6800XT on 1440p with hanmen shader. The most I can go was 20 static characters before crashing when adding the character. Note that it's not even rendering. It crashed when I'm loading the 20th chara at the position I set beforehand.

In short :
I made 12 individual scenes with different characters with only 2 characters each scenes. Single male and single female characters.
All of the individual scenes has been configured their own location, rotation and FK IK poses.
So if I could import them all, I should have 24 characters in the scenes.
But the studio crashed when I was importing 10th scenes.
Fortunately I did it while having performance graph on my secondary display.
So I got to see that the RAM has been on 100% usage since 5th scenes/10 charas.

So yeah...
You're working on 3D software. So obviously you'll need good GPU and alot of RAM.
When taking rendered screenshot, the GPU usage will goes down quite alot but your RAM usage will skyrocket.
So just my opinion, do you need 64gigs of RAM? You do. But is it worth to invest that much just for this stufio software? I don't think so.

Also just something I found recently about taking rendered screenshot.
You can just play on something like 1080p, go to F1 menu, search for "screenshot" set the resolution higher than your actual display e.g. 4k. Your rendered screenshot will has same look as your viewport while having higher res than the viewport.
I found it when I was looking for a way to get vertical image without making the camera rotated close to 90deg and manually rotating it back afterwards.
Thank you that was very helpful.
When I mentioned multiple characters, I meant at least 5 characters.
The 20 characters limit with 32GB, it seems 32GB might be good enough.
However, the main issue is the GPU. It's expensive, and I would need to invest in a good cooling system.


I'm on a budget, so I'm considering buying a GTX 1630 OC 4GB.
Do you think that would be good enough as a starter?
My plan is to upgrade later on.
 

AmaNo04

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Thank you that was very helpful.
When I mentioned multiple characters, I meant at least 5 characters.
The 20 characters limit with 32GB, it seems 32GB might be good enough.
However, the main issue is the GPU. It's expensive, and I would need to invest in a good cooling system.


I'm on a budget, so I'm considering buying a GTX 1630 OC 4GB.
Do you think that would be good enough as a starter?
My plan is to upgrade later on.
1630 huh...
Before 6800XT I was using 3070Ti. And before that was 1060 6GB.
With 1060 6GB I could have 4 charas, but the whole fps will only stay at 25ish when I played the animation.
But it was 2 years ago.
So maybe 1660 class is better option. Just make sure you have appropriate preset.
1630 was born only to be a joke card. Same as 3050, but 1630 is worse.
 
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1630 huh...
Before 6800XT I was using 3070Ti. And before that was 1060 6GB.
With 1060 6GB I could have 4 charas, but the whole fps will only stay at 25ish when I played the animation.
But it was 2 years ago.
So maybe 1660 class is better option. Just make sure you have appropriate preset.
1630 was born only to be a joke card. Same as 3050, but 1630 is worse.
I see... I didn't know that.
I might just wait and save up for a good GPU.
Anyway, thank you for everything.
 

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Thank you that was very helpful.
When I mentioned multiple characters, I meant at least 5 characters.
The 20 characters limit with 32GB, it seems 32GB might be good enough.
However, the main issue is the GPU. It's expensive, and I would need to invest in a good cooling system.


I'm on a budget, so I'm considering buying a GTX 1630 OC 4GB.
Do you think that would be good enough as a starter?
My plan is to upgrade later on.
Only belonging the game (NOT Studio) I´m still happy with GTX1660 Ti in my gaming laptop and RX 570 in my desktop.
In my experience AMD cards seem to make easier with HS2.
 

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Only belonging the game (NOT Studio) I´m still happy with GTX1660 Ti in my gaming laptop and RX 570 in my desktop.
In my experience AMD cards seem to make easier with HS2.

Last time, I accidentally clicked play and then my PC froze:LUL:

I might go for Nvidia... I want to play around with Blender.
 
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The optional sideloader modpack is only the mod or is it everything? Like I don't need to download the base
 

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Давно не спрашивал. Ссылка на описание того о чём спрашиваю ниже. Наткнулся я на это, вроде не новинка так что возможно уже кто то спрашивал и ответ есть.
Если не ошибаюсь то это отдельно от игры мод для редактирование лиц персонажей. Грузишь фото и получаешь параметры которые потом вводишь при редактирование уже в игре. Я прав или нет. Я даже скачать не смог. Если кто знает то подскажите как это работает и где помимо этого сайта можно скачать.

I haven't asked for a long time. The link to the description of what I'm asking about is below. I came across this, it doesn’t seem to be a new thing, so maybe someone has already asked and there is an answer.
If I'm not mistaken, this is a separate mod for editing character faces from the game. You upload a photo and receive parameters that you then enter when editing in the game. Am I right or wrong? I couldn't even download it. If anyone knows, tell me how it works and where besides this site I can download it.



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Давно не спрашивал. Ссылка на описание того о чём спрашиваю ниже. Наткнулся я на это, вроде не новинка так что возможно уже кто то спрашивал и ответ есть.
Если не ошибаюсь то это отдельно от игры мод для редактирование лиц персонажей. Грузишь фото и получаешь параметры которые потом вводишь при редактирование уже в игре. Я прав или нет. Я даже скачать не смог. Если кто знает то подскажите как это работает и где помимо этого сайта можно скачать.

I haven't asked for a long time. The link to the description of what I'm asking about is below. I came across this, it doesn’t seem to be a new thing, so maybe someone has already asked and there is an answer.
If I'm not mistaken, this is a separate mod for editing character faces from the game. You upload a photo and receive parameters that you then enter when editing in the game. Am I right or wrong? I couldn't even download it. If anyone knows, tell me how it works and where besides this site I can download it.



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Hey man - how´s doing?

Unfortunatly you gave me a riddle I can´t solve.
I downloaded it but can´t find any executable file to run a program, and the chinese site is no help for me european.

Anyway I never heard about this since I´m on work here.

I know only programs in the opposite direction, making 3D renders on base of a HS character like Leonardo AI or DAZ 3D.
 
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Hey man - how´s doing?

Unfortunatly you gave me a riddle I can´t solve.
I downloaded it but can´t find any executable file to run a program, and the chinese site is no help for me european.

Anyway I never heard about this since I´m on work here.

I know only programs in the opposite direction, making 3D renders on base of a HS character like Leonardo AI or DAZ 3D.
Сам не пробовал, но нашёл видео как это выглядит в процессе редактирования. Выглядит как довольно рабочий вариант для более точного переноса внешности. Ссылка на видео ниже.

I haven’t tried it myself, but I found a video of what it looks like during the editing process. Looks like a fairly working option for a more accurate transfer of appearance. Video link below.
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Hey man - how´s doing?

Unfortunatly you gave me a riddle I can´t solve.
I downloaded it but can´t find any executable file to run a program, and the chinese site is no help for me european.

Anyway I never heard about this since I´m on work here.

I know only programs in the opposite direction, making 3D renders on base of a HS character like Leonardo AI or DAZ 3D.
Yo! Turbojoe, I've heard something about that somewhere before, it is bassically a capture image, then it connect to a server, using AI they manage to meet HS2 or AIShoyu card parameters. It then return a Text file or a JSon file with those parameters and i think, i guess, you have to put those values manually in chara editor. In fact, you can edit a cartd using the app HS2Chara edit sliders whitout launching the game. I have had tryed to download that file but those chinese sites insist in that I NEED to download a suspicious file manager, also to make an account and login. No thanks, I'll pass.
 

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Сам не пробовал, но нашёл видео как это выглядит в процессе редактирования. Выглядит как довольно рабочий вариант для более точного переноса внешности. Ссылка на видео ниже.

I haven’t tried it myself, but I found a video of what it looks like during the editing process. Looks like a fairly working option for a more accurate transfer of appearance. Video link below.
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Hi!
It it possible to you, to share the application in a more friendly file host? like filesharing, mega, and so? those chineses sites are too invasive and anoying
 
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Hi!
It it possible to you, to share the application in a more friendly file host? like filesharing, mega, and so? those chineses sites are too invasive and anoying
Hey man - how´s doing?

Unfortunatly you gave me a riddle I can´t solve.
I downloaded it but can´t find any executable file to run a program, and the chinese site is no help for me european.
.

Ссылка на скачивание. Поспрашивал на другом сайте и со мной поделились этой ссылкой. Как раз файл там из видео которое по ссылке. Скачал, но пока ещё не пробовал.

Download link. I asked around on another site and they shared this link with me. Just the file there from the video that is on the link. I downloaded it, but haven't tried it yet.


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Сам не пробовал, но нашёл видео как это выглядит в процессе редактирования. Выглядит как довольно рабочий вариант для более точного переноса внешности. Ссылка на видео ниже.

I haven’t tried it myself, but I found a video of what it looks like during the editing process. Looks like a fairly working option for a more accurate transfer of appearance. Video link below.
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Yo! Turbojoe, I've heard something about that somewhere before, it is bassically a capture image, then it connect to a server, using AI they manage to meet HS2 or AIShoyu card parameters. It then return a Text file or a JSon file with those parameters and i think, i guess, you have to put those values manually in chara editor. In fact, you can edit a cartd using the app HS2Chara edit sliders whitout launching the game. I have had tryed to download that file but those chinese sites insist in that I NEED to download a suspicious file manager, also to make an account and login. No thanks, I'll pass.
Yep - as I expected there must be a program to run which extracts the chara settings from a picture. But what I´ve downloaded doesn´t seem to be a working app.

Anyway regarding to Kaseijin it´s still a lot of work to transfer the slider data list into the chara maker, and the result of the video example isn´t really convincing for me - I guess that can someone with a little chara maker experience do better without this stuff ;)
 
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Ссылка на скачивание. Поспрашивал на другом сайте и со мной поделились этой ссылкой. Как раз файл там из видео которое по ссылке. Скачал, но пока ещё не пробовал.

Download link. I asked around on another site and they shared this link with me. Just the file there from the video that is on the link. I downloaded it, but haven't tried it yet.


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This link is better, seems to be a working app.
Unfortunately all in chinese, can´t figure out how it works.

Like Kaseijin I´m done............
 
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Hi gentlemen,

I have a request please.

Could someone be so kind as to bring up to speed a vet who stopped playing in 2022 please?

I know ILLUSION closed down which is depressing but I'm wondering how the modding scene is doing. Are there any major mods that came out that completely changed the way to play or something like that?

Thanks in advance.
 
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