How much do you (dis)like lewd games made in RPGM?

[Insomnimaniac Games]

So this seems like a good place to ask, but for the people who have problems with RPGM, would a screenshot like this assuage some of the most common worries people have with the engine? Trying to get a read because I've never had an issue with RPGM games.

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[C.M.Cas]

If it's to choose, I prefer RPGM games. I like taking active role of the character and have the option to explore and take things on my own peace. Renpy is always vn that most of the time the only interaction is clicking in a choice. Both are cool, but each style is for the likes of different ppl.

Some ppl already said that, but I'll repeat: No matter the engine, good games will be played.

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

So this seems like a good place to ask, but for the people who have problems with RPGM, would a screenshot like this assuage some of the most common worries people have with the engine? Trying to get a read because I've never had an issue with RPGM games.

No. It shows that you (presumably?) are trying to do extra work on the UX, it doesn't show how successful you are; it can't. You won't be able to show your text rollback system—or even the basic fact that you have any—with a static screenshot.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

No. It shows that you (presumably?) are trying to do extra work on the UX, it doesn't show how successful you are; it can't. You won't be able to show your text rollback system—or even the basic fact that you have any—with a static screenshot.

Good point, and that's what I was looking for, an unfiltered opinion. Felt like this was the best place to get it. I was banking on the bottom left control map giving some visual cues, but I guess that isn't enough. Thanks my man!
(And I've never seen a RPGM MV game with text rollback. Do you know of one?)

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

Good point, and that's what I was looking for, an unfiltered opinion. Felt like this was the best place to get it. I was banking on the bottom left control map giving some visual cues, but I guess that isn't enough. Thanks my man!

Well, I should say such screenshot shows at least intent to polish, and it is undeniably important. So it's not worthless, and it will give an edge to the game in my eyes.

Control hints are nice... for the first 10 minutes of gameplay. After that, they're just eating precious screen space.

(And I've never seen a RPGM MV game with text rollback. Do you know of one?)

No. Which is the reason I say it's a bad engine. There's no way every single dev is just bad and doesn't care about QOL. ThE eNgInE Is NoT tHe PrOBleM! Yeah, right.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Control hints are nice... for the first 10 minutes of gameplay. After that, they're just eating precious screen space.

Thankfully I had the foresight to make them toggleable

No. Which is the reason I say it's a bad engine. There's no way every single dev is just bad and doesn't care about QOL. ThE eNgInE Is NoT tHe PrOBleM! Yeah, right.

I have a text backlog. It's not rollback, but I don't actually see the need for rollback in a game that only has a few important choices, instead of many smaller ones.

Once again, thanks for the input. I think hearing the opinions of both those who like and dislike the engine is important, so I can try and avoid common pitfalls that I may not have thought of.

 

[velvetdev]

Some people hate RPGM, some hate Unity, some Ren'Py and some Twine. So you can't make everyone love your game. We are making games for a niche audience.

 

[Mr. Kin]

Some people hate RPGM, some hate Unity, some Ren'Py and some Twine. So you can't make everyone love your game. We are making games for a niche audience.

Yea, impossible to please everyone at the same time and it is fine.

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

I have a text backlog. It's not rollback, but I don't actually see the need for rollback in a game that only has a few important choices, instead of many smaller ones.

Rollback isn't primarily about making different choices. Well, it's handy when this functionality is included, but a good autosave system can replace that. Rollback is a QOL feature for ease of (re) reading/viewing scenes. If the text log can't be brought up mid-dialogue, it's not even remotely a substitute.

Anyway, it was just one example of a feature that's hard to convey with a static screenshot, is all.

 

[Spankymcspanky]

The only downside to RPGM games for me is that the majority of them run like shit on my PC. Either severe lag, or even if they're running well then it turns my PC into a jet engine and often the PC has to shut itself down.

I don't really care what engine a game is made on, just as long as I can run it without it trying to destroy my PC which I bought back in the times of ancient Greece.

 

[Crimson Delight Games]

No. Which is the reason I say it's a bad engine. There's no way every single dev is just bad and doesn't care about QOL. ThE eNgInE Is NoT tHe PrOBleM! Yeah, right.

The engine is just a tool. A programmer with JavaScript knowledge can get it to do pretty much anything. The reason most RPGM games aren't fun is mostly due to flawed design, it's not even the stock graphics (Undertale looks even worse than most RPGM games, yet people love it and it sold a shitload of copies).

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

The engine is just a tool. A programmer with JavaScript knowledge can get it to do pretty much anything. The reason most RPGM games aren't fun is mostly due to flawed design, it's not even the stock graphics (Undertale looks even worse than most RPGM games, yet people love it and it sold a shitload of copies).

An engine is a tool alright. And some tools are just plain better at making games than others. That's the whole reason multiple game engines exist and continue releasing new (read: better) versions.

 

[bethrezen0]

it's not even the stock graphics (Undertale looks even worse than most RPGM games, yet people love it and it sold a shitload of copies).

It is stock graphics too though, as visual design is important. Undertale might look like shit, but it is not worse. UT has visual fidelity, and it has its own unique style, while a typical RPGM game has neither, using stock assets that is chibi anime stuff while showing DAZ renders. Also newer RPGMs RTP just looks especially shit.

 

[Goeffel]

[...] the people who have problems with RPGM, would a screenshot like this assuage some of the most common worries people have with the engine? [...]

I do not generally have a problem with rpgm games, but a screenshot like this makes me hesitate, would need to read reviews or ask in thread if game can properly be played by gamepad.
I strongly dislike to control by keyboard.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

I do not generally have a problem with rpgm games, but a screenshot like this makes me hesitate, would need to read reviews or ask in thread if game can properly be played by gamepad.
I strongly dislike to control by keyboard.

So, not specific to RPGM, but there are programs like DS4Windows, Xpadder, AntimicroX, Input Mapper, etc that completely solve this issue.

 

[Crimson Delight Games]

UT has visual fidelity, and it has its own unique style, while a typical RPGM game has neither, using stock assets that is chibi anime stuff while showing DAZ renders.

That's true, visual consistency is one of the first victims in most RPGM games.

 

[Death Panda]

It is stock graphics too though, as visual design is important. Undertale might look like shit, but it is not worse. UT has visual fidelity, and it has its own unique style, while a typical RPGM game has neither, using stock assets that is chibi anime stuff while showing DAZ renders. Also newer RPGMs RTP just looks especially shit.

That's true, visual consistency is one of the first victims in most RPGM games.

This is completely false because the overwhelming majority of RPGmaker games do not use stock assets while it is other engines that tend to be more popular with developers who want to make asset flip-type games. But okay.

 

[Crimson Delight Games]

This is completely false because the overwhelming majority of RPGmaker games do not use stock assets

Steam is full of cheap shovelware using stock RPGM assets. It's practically a meme at this point, and has been for a while.

 

[bethrezen0]

This is completely false because the overwhelming majority of RPGmaker games do not use stock assets while it is other engines that tend to be more popular with developers who want to make asset flip-type games. But okay.

While asset flips(on mainly unity) are a problem too, RPGM has plenty of stock asset games too. Not even Steam like Crimson tells, this site. First page of "latest updates", i already can see built-in RPGM RTP.

Other engines don't even have anything like that built-in like RPGM does. The most popular Unity asset flips are basically a selling of an showcase demos of content packs as a game, asset packs sold on Unity stores. There used to be an influx of those on Steam quite some time ago. Those aren't even games, and it's it's clearly an actual cashgrab scam. As different people there sold "games" that are 100% identically similar to each other. This is what an Asset-flip is.

Anyways, it dosen't matter for the consumer. Who cares who produces more shit ? There are a lot of shit on RPGM, if Unity or UE somewhere has even more shit, it dosen't make it better.

 

[DrMorningwood]

There's a lot of tolerance for low effort crap people will tolerate if there's a sex animation at the end, RPGMaker is a good choice if you don't want to try very hard when it comes to the actual game, like other people have mentioned, you don't even need to asset flip most of the time and just use the template/built-in ones.

If you don't want to actually make a game then you'll get more appeal by just drawing a comic or a book, honestly.