VN Ren'Py Hypnosis [v1.4.3] [Expanding Universe Games]

[The ArcKnight]

So... is there a viable path for avoiding the horror show yet or.....?

 

[Deleted member 3208170]

Trust doesn't come into it. Patreon isn't workspace for a developer. It is a public patronage platform and was never meant to be a real marketplace or workspace.

I am beginning to think that people just don't get the concept of patronage. You don't have a customer-merchant relationship. You have a patron-artist relationship. You are not financing their labor or the creation of their product. You are financing their lifestyle so that they can continue to create whatever the fuck they want. This is commonly why only kings and nobles were patrons. Only they could afford to throw away money. This is why patronages died out in favour of government and public funding.

What it was or is meant to be is irrelevant. What matter is what and how it is used.
I knew the concept of Patronage. But the devs on Patreon more or less want to set up a business. Not all but the Most.

You often read the Goal: IF I reached that goal, I cancel my job and make this my main job. You got Advertisement, you got promises of deliveries. You got cross promotions.

I don't get where you want to go with that argument. That we have to keep our mouth shot when they don't deliver. The Money is gone, that's true. No refunds. It would be fair play, but that's not even a thing for AAA titles. You can ask for refunds, but they don't have to do it.

I don't criticize Patreon or their Business model. But Developer, not artist, who don't deliver what they promised.

 

[Deleted member 3208170]

This went from a fun little thing to all kinds of fucked up.

They just keep growing so it's basically a death sentence. The MC has killed them all. They will reach a point where they can no longer function. In one part there is already one that got too big to move.

It's a fucking horror game.

I agree it is horrible. Its Horror.

For me, it starts with Laura. The Dev admitted that he has written himself in a corner with her yandere arc.
And with all we deal now is because of that arc.

This was fun as it started, but that seems an awful long time ago.

 

[RandomGuy99]

The thing is if someone here keep praising that he like the Broken Watch Story, we will not stop you from praising it.
On the flip side, if someone dislike it. All hell seems to break lose.

The point is,it is fine to like or dislike an arc, ending or direction the story goes. It is also fine to support or not support the dev.
What is not fine is the attempt the block others making comments that dont align with your views. Authoritarians/dictatorship is one of the main source of human suffering and it starts by enforcing their views on everyone. I wont also force you to agree with me on this statement as well.

 

[Devilartemis]

The preview images look god awful, is that the kind of resolution the actual game is or are those relics of the game when it first released that has been fixed now?

 

[Gibberish666]

So... is there a viable path for avoiding the horror show yet or.....?

Yes, the horror show of super-duper-omega-sized tits is avoidable. The choices leading to the horror shows are so obvious not even a bag of rocks should be able to fuck it up. You simply make decisions to tell the girls their tits are big enough.

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if you're that worried about stumbling across it, there is a handy-dandy link to a walkthrough on page one of this forum.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Yes, the horror show of super-duper-omega-sized tits is avoidable. The choices leading to the horror shows are so obvious not even a bag of rocks should be able to fuck it up. You simply make decisions to tell the girls their tits are big enough.

edit
if you're that worried about stumbling across it, there is a handy-dandy link to a walkthrough on page one of this forum.

Oh no, I understand, I was meaning with this update, is there content that is not just the horror show?
I told almost all the girls their boobs were big enough a long while ago. I just haven't played any update in a bit because they all seemed to be the "bad ends" and nothing updating for the harem end.

So, is this update just more horror show or do the proper paths get material this update?

 

[Gibberish666]

Oh no, I understand, I was meaning with this update, is there content that is not just the horror show?
I told almost all the girls their boobs were big enough a long while ago. I just haven't played any update in a bit because they all seemed to be the "bad ends" and nothing updating for the harem end.

So, is this update just more horror show or do the proper paths get material this update?

There is no new content regarding any path outside the broken watch path.

I'm getting the impression from some of the comments in this thread people are equating the broken watch ending as a side ending or bad ending with the giant tits of doom. Unless I've mistaken the vibes, I feel it's worth suggesting I do not think this is the case. The way I understand things, the broken watch path is intended to be as much of a proper path as any non-broken watch path.
The point of the broken watch ending is it puts the girls in a position where they struggle to control the growth of their tits (and it's all Laura's fault because everyone loves to hate Laura, but I digress). However, it does not have to result in tits that handicap the girls. It's simply a matter of dealing with the less favorable outcomes of questionable decisions. This is what not having plot armor looks like. All that said, I will reiterate once more, the super tits will only happen if you encourage the girls to do so, specifically, Haley, Leah, and Laura.

The game has essentially split into at least 3 distinct major paths (I've been able to identify) in its present form and we can expect many more variations in the future:
- the nowhere-near-finished non-broken watch ending (which will likely have its own version of a giant titty ending too).
- broken watch giant tits (present and incomplete)
- broken watch not-so-giant tits (present and incomplete)

 

[RandomGuy99]

Well, if you miss it i consider boobs steak and tits of doom as horror (bad ending) but thats just me. carry on.
Hope the dev can go back focusing the main story and not side ending soon ish. But at this rate, i guess next year?

Shall KIV this until dev comes back to main story

 

[AL.d]

> ... If you like a game you should feel free to leave positive comments/feedback and if you dislike a game you should feel free to leave negative comments/feedback. If you were a former patreon and if you feel you did not get your money's worth for whatever reason you should feel free to leave your thoughts as a comment....

Ironically, the "being former patreon" part is far more likely to influence development than the leaving feedback part. Especially feedback on a pirate forum.

No matter what some people say, it's pretty obvious to anyone who played this from the get go that the main theme of the game (mind control) has been an afterthought for some time. Expansion was never the main theme. MC literally mindfucks girls, changing sexual orientations to suit his needs, creating fetishes to reinforce sexual control, ruining marriages and allowing them (could have reversed it right away) to get hooked on his cum to create and expand the harem. Without mind control this is a game about a couple girls getting bit tits and then going their merry way, wanting nothing to do with that creeper. Maybe giving him a pity tit-fuck as thanks, before riding into the sunset with their girlfriend.

Thing is, if that's what his patrons want, feedback here means jack shit. If anything it sparks more attention to the game and maybe sends a few more patrons there who like girls being turned into immovable tit-flesh... Maybe expansion being a niche fetish, has gathered a paying following who wanted to steer the game more towards that. And since (most) porn game devs are practically like onlyfans girls at this point, they make what their paying audience wants. If his patreon had a massive exodus from people who didn't like the (not so new anymore) direction, he probably wouldn't have bothered with it for that long.

 

[channeler]

el enlace mixdrop no me deja descargar.
llevo 10 minutos intentando y nada.
solo sirve para ver publicidad ,y avisos de virus/troyanos falsos.

 

[Hentai058]

Expansion was never the main theme.

But it was. It always was. It's a hypnosis-flavoured expansion game, not an expansion-flavoured hypnosis game. As some people already said, the dev's studio's name is "Expanding Universe" or "Expanding Games" depending on where you look. Other people said it could mean several things, but I'll go further: his other project (Endowed) is ALSO about BE, with another device to power it, and so is his short story

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, plus, for what it's worth, the mind controll part comes after the BE part in the "genre" section of the opening post:

3DCG, Mobile Game, Anal Sex, Big Ass, Big Tits, Breast Expansion, Cumflation, Harem, Lactation, Male Protagonist, Mind Control, Pregnancy, Oral Sex, Teasing, Titfuck, Transformation, Virgin, Vaginal Sex, Weight Gain

Then here's what his Twitter bio says:

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Plus the dev stated several times how his games are about "semi-realistic BE", where the expansion doesn't happen suddenly out of thin air, but gradually, because the girls have to eat to provide matter for their breasts, whatever is the device used to cause it. And a more time-demanding expansion is also better to write a VN around it.

So yeah, I'm sorry to announce that to you, but the dev's main fetish is BE and always has been. Maybe not always to this extreme, but BE is nonetheless the core of the game(s).
Now, I get how one could get confused because the game's title is Hypnosis, and because that "flavour" is rather strong, but if you've been following the game since 2019 and didn't get that, it's clearly you who have misidentified its point. And if you hopped on the wagon later, well, just consider this post as simple info .

 

[dolfe67]

Defending the BE fetish on the dev's nickname is kind of a stretch. Plus it's more logic that it means the universe expanding rather than a universe of expanding [breasts]

 

[Hentai058]

Read me again, please. I clearly do not defend it just on the nickname.

 

[AL.d]

But it was. It always was. It's a hypnosis-flavoured expansion game, not an expansion-flavoured hypnosis game. As some people already said, the dev's studio's name is "Expanding Universe". Other people said it could mean several things, but I'll go further: his other project (Endowed) is ALSO about BE, with another device to power it, and, for what it's worth, the mind controll part comes after the BE part in the "genre" section of the opening post:
Plus the dev stated several times how his games are about "semi-realistic BE", where the expansion doesn't happen suddenly out of thin air, but gradually, because the girls have to eat to provide matter for their breasts, whatever is device used to cause it. And a more time-demanding expansion is also better to write a VN around it.

So yeah, I'm sorry to announce that to you, but the dev's main fetish is BE and always has been. Maybe not always to this extreme, but BE is nonetheless the core of the game(s).
Now, I get how one could get confused because the game's title is Hypnosis, and because that "flavour" is rather strong, but if you've been following the game since 2019 and didn't get that, it's clearly you who have misidentified its point. And if you hopped on the wagon later, well, just consider this post as simple info .

I did play from the very first update and...yeah no.

MC and TF are two genres that usually go well together. But if the intention was to mainly make a physical tf game, it was not only communicated poorly (with the title), but also portrayed miserably throughout the story (which is likely considering self admitted storytelling struggles).

As I said already, you can completely erase the physical tf parts and the game can still continue, since a good chunk of the girls is present in the story because their mind got royally fucked. Not because they got bigger tits. On the other hand, you erase the MC parts and only keep the TF and many of those girls have no single reason to stick around, or even bother to interact with that dude. Especially the ones who reacted negatively. Both the glue for the harem part and the reason for most drama in this, is the mind control plot.

 

[frollep]

ok, just finished playing and i must say, the direction it has taken frightens me. Not a fan of pregnancy but most importantly not a fan of bed-ridden diseased women and definitely not a fan of cannibalism. I think i will stop following this thread.

 

[Jstforme]

But it was. It always was. It's a hypnosis-flavoured expansion game, not an expansion-flavoured hypnosis game. As some people already said, the dev's studio's name is "Expanding Universe". Other people said it could mean several things, but I'll go further: his other project (Endowed) is ALSO about BE, with another device to power it, and so is his short story

You must be registered to see the links

, plus, for what it's worth, the mind controll part comes after the BE part in the "genre" section of the opening post:
Then here's what his Twitter bio says:
Plus the dev stated several times how his games are about "semi-realistic BE", where the expansion doesn't happen suddenly out of thin air, but gradually, because the girls have to eat to provide matter for their breasts, whatever is the device used to cause it. And a more time-demanding expansion is also better to write a VN around it.

So yeah, I'm sorry to announce that to you, but the dev's main fetish is BE and always has been. Maybe not always to this extreme, but BE is nonetheless the core of the game(s).
Now, I get how one could get confused because the game's title is Hypnosis, and because that "flavour" is rather strong, but if you've been following the game since 2019 and didn't get that, it's clearly you who have misidentified its point. And if you hopped on the wagon later, well, just consider this post as simple info .

It explains why the fan base has nosedived for this game. I lost interest as well when it became obvious that the fetish is BE/TF, and not MC. To me, such a focus maybe makes sense as a teenager, but as an adult...it's whatever though, we all have our kinks, at least it's not foot or diaper fetish

 

[Hentai058]

but also portrayed miserably throughout the story

You mean, by having the girls' tits continuously grow throughout the story (along with the hypnosis taking part and now, for several months, without it)?

Also, you're forgetting that if it wasn't for Leah's breasts, the MC wouldn't have hypnotized anyone to start with. And that several other girls also first came demanding to be hypnotized in order to get bigger breasts and/or other body changes.

It explains why the fan base has nosedived for this game. I lost interest as well when it became obvious that the fetish is BE/TF, and not MC. To me, such a focus maybe makes sense as a teenager, but as an adult...it's whatever though, we all have our kinks, at least it's not foot or diaper fetish

That's fine, as you says, to each their own! I only disagree with people who say the dev somehow misled his audience or changed the focus of his game along the way.

I wouldn't be so sure the fanbase has nosedived, though. I don't have access to the DL stats, and if it's about the thread, well, discontent people have a tendency to be more vocal than satisfied people. And on the other hand, as other people have pointed, it must work for the dev on Patreon, otherwise he probably wouldn't have stayed focused on this branch for so long.

 

[Deleted member 4058859]

Thing is, if that's what his patrons want, feedback here means jack shit.

For development maybe but feedback and reviews can be useful to players as well. Every single adult game dev I support, I found from this forum. Comments help me understand how the development is going and they are a factor (along with whatever is on the dev's patreon) when deciding if I want to financially support the development of the game. There are obviously some comments that I think are stupid or just dont agree with but I appreciate people leaving honest feedback.

 

[AL.d]

You mean, by having the girls' tits continuously grow throughout the story (along with the hypnosis taking part and now, for several months, without it)?

Also, you're forgetting that if it wasn't for Leah's breasts, the MC wouldn't have hypnotized anyone to start with. And that several other girls also first came demanding to be hypnotized in order to get bigger breasts and/or other body changes.

Then what happens? He gives them honkers, they leave because there is no dependency and...we time skip to the end when they return pissed and with unmanageable tits? And the drama with the yandere? Her target was the mind control mcguffin so she gains control over MC. And certainly not in order to give him titties. The whole drama was about power struggle. Same for the moral dillemas of doing shit to them, or knowingly allowing mindfuckery shit to happen to them.

The whole discussion is pretty pointless and going in circles tbh. It is what it is and obviously still has an audience.