Depraved Awakening, no love rival but one of the better stories.
"No love rival", are you kidding me ? The mysterious man have only one idea in his head, transform Judy in a horny slut who will jump on any dick she find, exactly like Stella. It's the only way to put her on your dick and so make you shut your mouth and stop searching. To this, add the fact that Christina's mission is to make you hit on Judy whatever how she do it, and she clearly want to include, "I'll fuck her in any possible way", as her main course. Ok, it's not exactly "love rival", but the whole world is your rival concerning Judy.
Carli is an escort, there's a lot of guy who hit on her behind your back. As an obedient sub, Christina probably have some dicks behind your back either. Stella was still hooked by the mysterious guy until the release 0.6 (if my memory don't betray me again), and if you stay too far from her for too long, she'll take care of her urge with any dick near enough. Until the release 0.7 (0.6 ?) Mi Do was married and there was this guy, who wasn't the first one...
There's no NTR, nor directly visible rivals, but the story make it clear that, whatever the girl, you aren't the only guy on Earth and you aren't (or you can become, depend of the girl) just one of the many guys who have the girl. That's part of what make the story "good". You aren't some kind of sex symbol like in too many other games. No, you are an average guy in an average world, and at anytime you can lost the girl in profit of someone else.
In term of love rivals, it's the game which have the more of them, it's just that you don't see them, they just exist by definition, like in real world.
Love and Submission, no love rival and a great story.
Here again I disagree. The brother want to hit on your sister. It isn't really used, but you've the possibility to be happy that your mother have a date at the start of the game. Your mother's friend want to hit on her (here my memory can betray me) and one of the two sisters have "the power" and, if I remember correctly, seemed happy at the idea to use it on both your mother and your sister.
Oh, and don't forget the guy we see at the start of the game. We still don't know who he is, probably your, supposed dead, father, but we haven't seen it without reason.
So, once again, no NTR but it doesn't mean that you have no love rival. Like for depraved awakening they are implied by the story.
Sisterly Lust, no love rival and the story is coming along well.
Er... Excuse-me, but don't you have to go as far as illegally using a webcam to take evidences of Brody's cheating, to make the oldest sister envisage the possibility that she must stop her relation with him ? And still the day after the confrontation she have doubt and hesitate, should she go back with him ?
The story imply that you'll get ride of him, but it's the strongest love rival in a game after god Eric. Except pure NTR games and rape games, I don't remember a single girl in a western game who is so madly in love to someone else than the MC. Even in corruption games, the girls aren't this in love with their SO when they have one.
Dreams of Desire, no love rival with a good story.
Have you forgot that the father is still alive and the mother still deeply in love with him ? We never seen it yet, but some lines said by the mother in the first half of the game clearly depict him as a strong love rival. And the aunt, isn't she still married ? Anyway, she's clearly happy to fuck with you by her own, just displeased at first that she isn't the one who take the lead as she usually do. I'm sure that you aren't the first guy to do her since her wedding, nor the only one to do it during the story.
Yet no NTR but love rivals implied by the story.
I have to say that I think "I don't like fetish x in this game" comments are actually constructive, provided fetish x isn't the main focus of your game.
1. They serve as a counterbalance to all the people saying "This game would be so much better with fetish x".
Honestly, neither the "I don't like" nor "like" comments are constructive. If they come as part of the comment itself (something like, "there's this, that, oh and I don't like this fetish") ok, but alone they have strictly no interest.
Either the author already know his game from start to stop, and there's no place for the addition of a fetish, or he don't know it, and the addition of a fetish will just lead to an even more messy game.
Take Dreams of Desire by example. Where's the ass/boobs/feet things ? At start we've a, "hey, there's this, it will be used later, you'll see it's great", and now you can only do the mother in the ass if you lied to her, this even if you have a high value on the finally never used ass counter.
Same for the trust/lust counters. If you choose the dominant path with Tracy, you've only one trust point, then, because the end needed a twist, you've a sudden computation made according to your previous choice with her, because the point is automatic and one isn't enough for a real "bad end/good end" thing. It really feel like they didn't knew that they'll have to use the trust counter for her, or at least that they completely forgot to increase it in both path.
There's also all the sex scenes in the last update. There's eight scenes in it, and only one depend of your previous choice ; and yet it's only because of Daryl, not because of you. Whatever you've chose the dominant path or the love path, for the mother and sisters, you'll have the same scene. And it's not the first time, the mother is the only character who really used this ; it's also the only character who really increased the trust/lust counters.
Don't take me wrong, I love the story, but it was the only thing the creator had in mind from the start. He knew nothing about the game globally speaking, and it's why every single features and counters he planned are now completely useless, while the used counters weren't increased. I hope they'll go back when the story is finished, and redo each chapter adding the promised mechanism and counters increase, but I only have few hope on this.
It's why you can't have a real good game and in the same time a game which will adapt the fetishes to the request of the players. If you don't know all your game since the start, and if you don't stick to it, you can have a game with a good story, or a game with a good mechanism, but you'll never have a good game. That's why Asian games tend to be better than western games. The devs don't care of player's opinion, anyway most of the time they release a finished game, so...
2. They inform dev's that certain game elements are actually detracting from the story for some people.
Do you seriously believe that people saying, "I don't like this fetish", do it because of this ? The only time I did something like this wasn't because of a fetish, but because the author used the "average stupid mc which will act as a dick" Daz3D model. We've seen him enough in all the RPG Maker walk simulators and it make me hate a game just by seeing him. And honestly, I still wonder what crossed my mind to say this.
If the story is really good and/or really well wrote, it's not an disliked fetish which will change this. I said above that I can stop a game if there's NTR in it, even if I'm hooked to the story. It's true, but if I'm really hooked to the story, it must be really strong NTR to achieve this. Else I'll just endure it, because the story is what matters in this case.
And the opposite is also true. An added fetish will add nothing to the story, nor to the game. It need to be a really shitty game to suddenly improve because it have your favorite fetish in it. And in this case, well it'll just become an average game, nothing more.
But well, here it's just another proof that we are a community of communities. There's the guys who play games, and there's the ones who fap on games. For the seconds, what fetishes is on the game have a real importance, because their pleasure will depend of it. But the first ones care way less about this. Give them a really good story,
[regarding Freeloading Familly] You and me both! but the thread for that game is FULL of people complaining that it's NTR. The newest update...
Yeah, I see it this night. And don't forget her, "not yet". It's more than obvious that you'll put it deep in her in the future.
Anyway like I said in a previous comment, you'll see the scene only if you choose the "pacifism" option, which imply that you want to follow either the "I'm a sub" or the "I'm a switch" path. In both case, don't complain if people around you act like you're a sub, it was your choice.
To this, I will add that they only close the door to the MC face if you peep on them too long, so if you act like a pervert dick. If you just act like a well educated guy, you stop peeping after they kiss, and everything is fine. I like to play all the options, so they closed the door on my face. But I wasn't mad, I knew from the start that clicking on this button was a dick move and could lead to a strong reaction.
I will say that the "i don't like NTR" comments aren't so bad, but again speaking of LLTP and FF, the comments there aren't simply "i don't like NTR".
That's what I implied above. If it's part of the comment, then why not. It will help the author know what his public like and what to include/exclude of his next game. But if it's just this, and even more if you expect the game to change according to your comment, this it's just an useless selfish comment.
This even more since there's the "like" button. I said it once in another discussion regarding fetishes in games. If an author saw that a "I don't like this" have 100 like, he will know that 101 persons don't like "this".
I'm even sure that it's more effective that 101 isolated, "I don't like this", because with time you don't care who wrote it and anyway you don't count them. For the author, in one case he know that there's a lot of people who don't like it, and in the second he just think that few people don't like it.
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I am actually getting kind of tired of seeing people say things like, "the devs needs the feedback." Maybe they need some feedback... but your feedback? probably not.
It depend, generally when I give my feedback, it to point the bug and give the correction. So I tend to think that yes, they need
my feedback
But more seriously, yes, our own feedback isn't better than anyone else feedback.
