VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.11] [Lazy Monkey]

[Filipis]

ffs, we already went through this when 0.6 released: the dev not building artificial filler to ensure every path of every choice is the same length is NOT "punishing you", that's completely egocentric. Giving more choice to the player is part of being a game rather than a Visual Novel, and along the way you're bound to give plenty of choices that will make for less things to talk about in game than others. That's all (and that's normally completely negated by the fact most people play several paths). Just swallow the pill and move on, otherwise you'll still be yapping on it in this thread on patch 0.9 .

I will continue, as long as people like you keep shilling for a game like this, and refuse to acknowledge a mistake. And this isn't about me personally being punished, this is about game development principles: Not offering a "reward" or "incentive" for making a different choice is "punishing" a player, simple as. And if you're not willing to make content for every "meaningful" choice you offer, then why bother offering that choice in the first place?

 

[Youtiy]

ffs, we already went through this when 0.6 released: the dev not building artificial filler to ensure every path of every choice is the same length is NOT "punishing you", that's completely egocentric. Giving more choice to the player is part of being a game rather than a Visual Novel, and along the way you're bound to give plenty of choices that will make for less things to talk about in game than others. That's all (and that's normally completely negated by the fact most people play several paths). Just swallow the pill and move on, otherwise you'll still be yapping on it in this thread on patch 0.9 .

I suggest taking my approach and just remaining silent, sometimes no matter how nicely or logically you explain something some people simply won't listen and will continue to believe in whatever they want. It's really a waste of time to argue with them.

 

[Filipis]

I suggest taking my approach and just remaining silent, sometimes no matter how nicely or logically you explain something some people simply won't listen and will continue to believe in whatever they want. It's really a waste of time to argue with them.

Yes, swallow the pill, and ask for more. God forbid someone asks for some accountability and quality in their AVN.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Yes, swallow the pill, and ask for more. God forbid someone asks for some accountability and quality in their AVN.

By what metric do you deserve accountability? Are you the publisher?

 

[Filipis]

By what metric do you deserve accountability? Are you the publisher?

I'm a customer. And before you decide to join the others in waving the "it's free" flag, consider that I want this game to be the best it can be, for everyone.

However, that's not going to happen if we don't hold devs accountable for sacking content in a game that prides itself on meaningful choices. After all, what meaning is there in choosing an option that makes you miss out on some pretty important plot points - with no alternative, but equally important stuff as a consequence?

"Play a different route" is also not a valid argument either, as that completely sidesteps the question of why give the player that 'sacked' option in the first place?

 

[wizardcock]

I'm a customer. And before you decide to join the others in waving the "it's free" flag, consider that I want this game to be the best it can be, for everyone.

It's impossible to please everyone. I, for one, appreciate that some choices shorten the game. I don't like it when developers purposely stretch all the choices so that the content is the same size for every path.

 

[Filipis]

It's impossible to please everyone. I, for one, appreciate that some choices shorten the game. I don't like it when developers purposely stretch all the choices so that the content is the same size for every path.

Again, this is not about pleasing everyone, this is about game development philosophy - don't offer choices that lead nowhere, just to have a choice. It is not meaningful, only deceptive.

Besides, there's a humongous difference in having a 'shorter' path (comparatively) based on different choices, but in this case, the difference in question was staggering:
-> Spare Cass (0.5) -> A -> B -> C -> D -> E -> F -> Corronation.
-> Kill Cass (0.5) -> A -> Corronation.

If that isn't laughable, I don't know what is...

 

[Zakharova]

There is only one doubt residing in me.... why the fuck would you kill Cass? She is the best thing in the game. Do you have cum in your brains by any chance?

 

[SARBASST]

This is my favorite VN game. It may not have the best renders or the best English syntax, but the ones that do usually take 6 to 8 months between updates. The fact that this gets updated every 1 to 2 months is why I would choose it over other VN games and gladly support the dev financially.

 

[JohnSsnowinter]

Again, this is not about pleasing everyone, this is about game development philosophy - don't offer choices that lead nowhere, just to have a choice. It is not meaningful, only deceptive.

Besides, there's a humongous difference in having a 'shorter' path (comparatively) based on different choices, but in this case, the difference in question was staggering:
-> Spare Cass (0.5) -> A -> B -> C -> D -> E -> F -> Corronation.
-> Kill Cass (0.5) -> A -> Corronation.

If that isn't laughable, I don't know what is...

Dude this developer releases his game almost every 2 months, if you want for him to develop every route equally it would stretch the game development cycle to 3-4 months at best. This game is free not because you are pirating it, but because he himself gives it for free every 2 months on a good quality level overall. So it's not without a reason to give the developer some leniency, or you can play Being a Dik, oh wait it's not out yet.

 

[dkatryl]

Y'all are still debating that dude?

After the same argument has been remade in multiple posts with no end in sight, and then devolved into the usual shilling accusations, I recommend the ignore feature.

I had great results with it!

 

[Alan Dalles]

Again, this is not about pleasing everyone, this is about game development philosophy - don't offer choices that lead nowhere, just to have a choice. It is not meaningful, only deceptive.

Besides, there's a humongous difference in having a 'shorter' path (comparatively) based on different choices, but in this case, the difference in question was staggering:
-> Spare Cass (0.5) -> A -> B -> C -> D -> E -> F -> Corronation.
-> Kill Cass (0.5) -> A -> Corronation.

If that isn't laughable, I don't know what is...

For example, in the AAA game Far Cry 4 you can simply stay and enjoy the crab rangoon in the beginning and get the secret ending:

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Besides, choice (Kill Cass) has a few plot's concequences: 1) Sign that as the plot unfolds, MC will return to the burial site ("Do you memorize this place?"); 2) It's a second wrong choice (First - alliance with Cass) for Ludwig (disruption of nature balance), which will affect on the West's trip.

 

[Filipis]

Dude this developer releases his game almost every 2 months, if you want for him to develop every route equally it would stretch the game development cycle to 3-4 months at best. This game is free not because you are pirating it, but because he himself gives it for free every 2 months on a good quality level overall. So it's not without a reason to give the developer some leniency, or you can play Being a Dik, oh wait it's not out yet.

Then don't write parallel storylines that can't be achieved within a 2-month dev cycle.

I can't be blamed for asking the developer to put something on my plate as well, when he's handing out free meals to everybody else.

 

[Filipis]

For example, in the AAA game Far Cry 4 you can simply stay and enjoy the crab rangoon in the beginning and get the secret ending:

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Besides, choice (Kill Cass) has a few plot's concequences: 1) Sign that as the plot unfolds, MC will return to the burial site ("Do you memorize this place?"); 2) It's a second wrong choice (First - alliance with Cass) for Ludwig (disruption of nature balance), which will affect on the West's trip.

Come on, that is clearly intended to be more of an easter egg than a "canon" path.

And I understand there might be some unique consequences on the "Kill Cass" path (which I am eagerly awaiting), after which I will gladly eat my words here and donate a hefty sum to LM...

... but all of LM's behaviour indicates that I won't live to see a patch dedicated solely to dealing with that particular state of affairs like the Coup was.

Thank you for acknowledging me.

 

[icedogg]

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Hi. I recently moved to a new location, so I missed a couple of days of development. But now I'm back to my old pace. I also created two backups for myself on a specially purchased hard drive and online storage, so there will be no more precedents like with the Queen's event in 0.7.

Thank you so much for your support!

 

[ljabc]

to be honest,I just care the queen

 

[josh963]

This dev deserves every subscription he gets... and even more

 

[PaPaPantagruel]

There is only one doubt residing in me.... why the fuck would you kill Cass? She is the best thing in the game. Do you have cum in your brains by any chance?

Red King all the way baby! Ya know what they say, power is the most potent aphrodisiac...

 

[With The]

as MC porn vn, your job is making all the girl become your hareem lmao

 

[Glebonwski]

I hope for an update this week, this game is absolute cinema