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So selina, the another child from mc, it seems she is the most powerful one as the product of two reflection join into one? And she wants to lead mc to follow his own road? :unsure:
 

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Bruh...
For starters: Alaina probably killed dozens of innocent people to make her scheme believable. She admits turning Cass' mom aganist the Real Regis hence causing the Real Regis' death indirectly, and right after admitting that, she also admits killing Cass's mom and using her 'death' to frame our father to manipulate both Priscilla and Cass for years so she also caused 'coup' in a way, a coup that if failed; lots of people died because of it including Aker and Ludwig, your loyal friends and teachers. After our father sat on the throne, she also admits killing dozens of people again to make the 'marriage' between Seraphine and King happen. Ah, lets not forget how she poisoned to King all through his life to make him barren and send oracles to him to make him more delirious. I can only hope that this is the full iceberg not the tip.

Well, Conrad on the other hand, raided some places and interrogated some illegal and suspicous Elves. This, what you call extreme and cruel methods...? I am also %100 sure that all he had done is fair and right by the Golden Order so no abuse of position/power. He is a fuckin puppy beside Alaina if we were to compare them by the degree of cruelty.

And if you believe Conrad, Alaina also probably killed your grandma too lol, maybe Red Emperor himself too. But I don't like giving her that much of a credit so my other candidate in that matter is Ludwig.
 

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Bruh...
For starters: Alaina probably killed dozens of innocent people to make her scheme believable. She admits turning Cass' mom aganist the Real Regis hence causing the Real Regis' death indirectly, and right after admitting that, she also admits killing Cass's mom and using her 'death' to frame our father to manipulate both Priscilla and Cass for years so she also caused 'coup' in a way, a coup that if failed; lots of people died because of it including Aker and Ludwig, your loyal friends and teachers. After our father sat on the throne, she also admits killing dozens of people again to make the 'marriage' between Seraphine and King happen. Ah, lets not forget how she poisoned to King all through his life to make him barren and send oracles to him to make him more delirious. I can only hope that this is the full iceberg not the tip.

Well, Conrad on the other hand, raided some places and interrogated some illegal and suspicous Elves. This, what you call extreme and cruel methods...? I am also %100 sure that all he had done is fair and right by the Golden Order so no abuse of position/power. He is a fuckin puppy beside Alaina if we were to compare them by the degree of cruelty.

And if you believe Conrad, Alaina also probably killed your grandma too lol, maybe Red Emperor himself too. But I don't like giving her that much of a credit so my other candidate in that matter is Ludwig.
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Bruh...
For starters: Alaina probably killed dozens of innocent people to make her scheme believable. She admits turning Cass' mom aganist the Real Regis hence causing the Real Regis' death indirectly, and right after admitting that, she also admits killing Cass's mom and using her 'death' to frame our father to manipulate both Priscilla and Cass for years so she also caused 'coup' in a way, a coup that if failed; lots of people died because of it including Aker and Ludwig, your loyal friends and teachers. After our father sat on the throne, she also admits killing dozens of people again to make the 'marriage' between Seraphine and King happen. Ah, lets not forget how she poisoned to King all through his life to make him barren and send oracles to him to make him more delirious. I can only hope that this is the full iceberg not the tip.

Well, Conrad on the other hand, raided some places and interrogated some illegal and suspicous Elves. This, what you call extreme and cruel methods...? I am also %100 sure that all he had done is fair and right by the Golden Order so no abuse of position/power. He is a fuckin puppy beside Alaina if we were to compare them by the degree of cruelty.

And if you believe Conrad, Alaina also probably killed your grandma too lol, maybe Red Emperor himself too. But I don't like giving her that much of a credit so my other candidate in that matter is Ludwig.
You know Conrad's not gonna sleep with you right?

Alaina is a schemer. Even she admits it. Full stop, that's all you need to know about her for now.

Conrad is that classic enforcer type that goes too far in a quest to root out what he sees is a conspiracy.

Also, how are you 100% sure what he did was fair and right by the Golden Order? Were you there? Are you just depending on what you're being told (hearsay)? The Golden Order already proved it's not foolproof with Val's sentence.
 

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I'm a little indecisive, but I'm curios whom does everybody else prefer to marry in this vn?, aurora or the other one whom i won't because of the name would likely cause trouble.
 

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I'm a little indecisive, but I'm curios whom does everybody else prefer to marry in this vn?, aurora or the other one whom i won't because of the name would likely cause trouble.
You can say Isis. The name has multiple meanings and everyone here will know who you are talking about.

Looks wise, Isis all day. Personality wise, Aurora. Since this is eventual partial harem type stuff, I tend to go with personality over looks and choose Aurora. It also depends on what the playthrough is about. If it's a red playthrough, then Isis all the way. White I favor Aurora. Green I tend to go with Aurora as well based on the whole personality over looks thing.

The choice gives me GoT vibes from how Isis represents the south or Dorne. Sounds like good friends to have but the clan situation is so messy you never know if they will be there tomorrow thanks to all the intrigue.
Aurora sounds like the "safer" choice given the stability of the north but it's also described as an ally who wouldn't be able to provide as much support.
 
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I'm a little indecisive, but I'm curios whom does everybody else prefer to marry in this vn?, aurora or the other one whom i won't because of the name would likely cause trouble.
Why is Isis an offending name, especially in fiction? It's the name of an egypt goddess, fitting for medieval setting which has a desert culture.

Aurora is the safe choice, Isis is the risky but potentially more rewarding exciting choice. Depends on how you play MC, really.
 
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You know Conrad's not gonna sleep with you right?

Alaina is a schemer. Even she admits it. Full stop, that's all you need to know about her for now.

Conrad is that classic enforcer type that goes too far in a quest to root out what he sees is a conspiracy.

Also, how are you 100% sure what he did was fair and right by the Golden Order? Were you there? Are you just depending on what you're being told (hearsay)? The Golden Order already proved it's not foolproof with Val's sentence.
Conrad is a dog, thats it. But he is our dog, as of we know atleast.

Have you played the update? She admits all those things I said; you know, right? I am not pulling all these out of my ass. There is no reason for her to lie in that situation, she knows that right after MC starts to antogonise her all she had done and plan-to-do is for nothing. So I believe she really put her cards on the table.

Val is a proven thief already by yours actually, and she is an Elf. No need for further investigation for Golden Order to distribute its justice. And the Elves Conrad interrogated were illegals if not guilty so I believe he has right to torture them by the laws.

Ah let's not forget how Alaina taunted (?) Conrad when you were in the West. Thats what made Conrad to start his investigation, according to him ofc. Also if you choose to be shown 'present' when Mysterious Woman asks you, she shows you exactly this scene I am talking about.
 

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Conrad is a dog, thats it. But he is our dog, as of we know atleast.

Have you played the update? She admits all those things I said; you know, right? I am not pulling all these out of my ass. There is no reason for her to lie in that situation, she knows that right after MC starts to antogonise her all she had done and plan-to-do is for nothing. So I believe she really put her cards on the table.

Val is a proven thief already by yours actually, and she is an Elf. No need for further investigation for Golden Order to distribute its justice. And the Elves Conrad interrogated were illegals if not guilty so I believe he has right to torture them by the laws.

Ah let's not forget how Alaina taunted (?) Conrad when you were in the West. Thats what made Conrad to start his investigation, according to him ofc. Also if you choose to be shown 'present' when Mysterious Woman asks you, she shows you exactly this scene I am talking about.
That "as we know of" is super important. Thinking he's our dog will just lead to getting bitten in the ass.

You did actually got me to thinking about something, though.

The scene with the Golden Order was demonstrating that they will absolutely subject elves to harsher punishments than the other races, otherwise there would be no need to show them doing their jobs. If you help Val, she ends up as Alaina's apprentice and then just disappears. Where is she when Conrad is on his witch hunt? She's not brought up at all during the confrontation at court. Either Alaina has her hidden (which is entirely possible), it's a writing oversight, or something else is at play.
 

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Alright, since I believe I saw all of the sex scenes now. I would say the best to worse of the update are:

1. Sera (Lust)
2. Priscilla
3. Lia
4. Isis
5. Aurora
6. Sera (Love)

Sera lust scene is the best of the update. The entire thing was done well from start to finish. From Elis wearing her down to it finally boiling over into sex. And there was no breaks between it. You get a decently long scene of her corruption from start to finish with no interruptions. As a long await scene, it came out great. And the best part was the camera was on point the entire time. Easily being one of my current top 3 scenes in the game.

Priscilla. Honestly, her scene wasn't as great as I imagined. But for what was shown, it was pretty good. However, like a few other sex scenes in the game. It's a victim of the camera angle. You couldn't even see the blowjob. Barely could see her tits. Some of her best proportions were basically body blocked by Elis or too far away to get a good view. Hell, even the ending with her splitting was a bit over the top for the scene and didn't really show off her ass well. So with that in mind, the scene could've been great but was pulled down by some of the choices made. Still, easily in my top 5, currently.

Lia. Honestly, whatever sex demon is possessing her. They have her soul in a chokehold. She got to be one of the horniest characters in the game. From trying to fuck Elis in front of their family to getting pounded into oblivion and still wanting more lol. It's probably up there in my list of sex scenes.

Isis. Her blowjob scene wasn't too crazy, but it was good. Not really much else to say about it. Just something hot to look at. Since this would be her first blowjob she's given Elis, I believe.

Aurora. I actually wasn't a fan of the scene. While I'm fine with pregnancy sex. This one didn't really do much for me. Could be the position chosen, but I wasn't feeling it. So it was an alright scene.

Sera (Love) scene. This is simultaneously the funniest, but horrible sex scene. Like, what really was the thought behind that scene? She sneaks into his room and gives him a bj before riding and leaving. Where was the love in that scene? I truly believe that the lust scenes are just vastly better. They're properly set up and then delivered to completion. Whereas the love scenes feel more like they're just going through the motions by comparison.

So to finish this by speaking on their overall placements. Sera lust scene and Priscilla scene enters top 5. Lia scene was pretty good. The horny pervert. Isis scene was good for what it was, but I don't think her BJ compares to Elin's after the ball with the ring. Legit still the best Blowjob scene in the game with Cass first BJ and Lia's following after it. Aurora scene was alright. And lastly, Sera love scene was I don't even know. Even in isolation, it's kind of a weird scene.
 

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You can say Isis. The name has multiple meanings and everyone here will know who you are talking about.

Looks wise, Isis all day. Personality wise, Aurora. Since this is eventual partial harem type stuff, I tend to go with personality over looks and choose Aurora. It also depends on what the playthrough is about. If it's a red playthrough, then Isis all the way. White I favor Aurora. Green I tend to go with Aurora as well based on the whole personality over looks thing.

The choice gives me GoT vibes from how Isis represents the south or Dorne. Sounds like good friends to have but the clan situation is so messy you never know if they will be there tomorrow thanks to all the intrigue.
Aurora sounds like the "safer" choice given the stability of the north but it's also described as an ally who wouldn't be able to provide as much support.
Personality wise I still choose Isis. I'm not really into the shy types and Aurora is way to boring for me. Isis actually bothers to do stuff and at least tries to make the mc more powerful as a ruler. Aurora basically just stands there looking pretty. Isis is also so at least ok with the mc having a harem which Aurora hasn't show any signs that she's interested in. Don't get me wrong there are some stuff I dislike about Isis too but she's at least trusts the mc's judgement even if she disagrees with it and doesn't want to act against him. Bookworm on White route is the only time I ever bothered with Aurora and I picked Isis on every other route.
 

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Personality wise I still choose Isis. I'm not really into the shy types and Aurora is way to boring for me. Isis actually bothers to do stuff and at least tries to make the mc more powerful as a ruler. Aurora basically just stands there looking pretty. Isis is also so at least ok with the mc having a harem which Aurora hasn't show any signs that she's interested in. Don't get me wrong there are some stuff I dislike about Isis too but she's at least trusts the mc's judgement even if she disagrees with it and doesn't want to act against him. Bookworm on White route is the only time I ever bothered with Aurora and I picked Isis on every other route.
I do wish Aurora was more...conscious of a possible harem. I wouldn't be surprised if it led to some kind of conflict with her down the road. Nothing route breaking just some kind of additional scene.
 

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I’m really curious what all the Cass worshippers are thinking, now that Alaina revealed that basically she is the one who was behind everything. She may not be telling the truth about everything, but she’s definitely playing the long game.

Isn’t Cass such a badass? She’s the only one with any agency in this game, all the others are just being thrown around. I hope Alaina realises soon that she’s playing right into Cass’ hands, and soon she’ll be the one in prison
 

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I’m really curious what all the Cass worshippers are thinking, now that Alaina revealed that basically she is the one who was behind everything. She may not be telling the truth about everything, but she’s definitely playing the long game.

Isn’t Cass such a badass? She’s the only one with any agency in this game, all the others are just being thrown around. I hope Alaina realises soon that she’s playing right into Cass’ hands, and soon she’ll be the one in prison
Great, the number of characters with agency have increased from one to two. This changes everything.
Cass still plotted for years to kill the king and went for a change, so someone helping her for their own benefits doesn't diminish Cass in any way.
 

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I’m really curious what all the Cass worshippers are thinking, now that Alaina revealed that basically she is the one who was behind everything. She may not be telling the truth about everything, but she’s definitely playing the long game.

Isn’t Cass such a badass? She’s the only one with any agency in this game, all the others are just being thrown around. I hope Alaina realises soon that she’s playing right into Cass’ hands, and soon she’ll be the one in prison
Isis already humiliated Cass in the Red route with the poisoned cups shenanigans, showing her how much of a big fish in a small pond Cass actually is. Alaina being able to manipulate her also was already shown if you spare Cass and pick the "present" option with the Moon Lady. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets backstabbed by someone in the Green route too with the way things are going, as Isis said she is a weak player, she was only able to pull the coup in the first place because there were other bigger, badder schemers using her for their own purposes.
 

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Isis already humiliated Cass in the Red route with the poisoned cups shenanigans, showing her how much of a big fish in a small pond Cass actually is. Alaina being able to manipulate her also was already shown if you spare Cass and pick the "present" option with the Moon Lady. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets backstabbed by someone in the Green route too with the way things are going, as Isis said she is a weak player, she was only able to pull the coup in the first place because there were other bigger, badder schemers using her for their own purposes.
Not just that. Cass entire plan requires Elis to basically self sabotage. If he doesn't, her plan falls apart. Several ways at that too. Something that we all knew already, but she even acknowledged this very fact this update. Essentially, Cass was never that big of a player. She doesn't have enough experience and needs time to grow. Her supposed biggest play of the Coup was all driven by a lie Alaina told her and has one of the easiest fail conditions. That being Elis refusal. And from what we currently know, she had no back up plan in the case of him not helping her.

Don't get me wrong. Cass has potential. But she's definitely not as strong of a player as she would believe she is on the board.
 
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