VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.11] [Lazy Monkey]

[DontBeAfraidKid]

On Boosty, the developer said he'd try to release the update before the new year. But I think he doesn't have much time left, so I personally don't have high hopes.
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oh if it does happen then that will be a great Christmas/ New Year Gift for all of us

 

[w123t4]

Still talking about the same thing like always, don't you people have other things to discuss? Let's talk about something like azalia or zlata who are better or how can we safely impregnant Lia and make her give birth the child.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Still talking about the same thing like always, don't you people have other things to discuss? Let's talk about something like azalia or zlata who are better or how can we safely impregnant Lia and make her give birth the child.

Alright bet. Azalia is better. Just like her mother. Even her bloodline is superior. Not to mention, Zlata is the one that wants Elis to abandon his wife and her own mother. Which is actually pretty fucked up. Compared to Azalia who's playing a wholesome game with her mother, Isis, on who's really trying to kill Elis lol.

Azalia is out there trying to protect her papa from her mother's clutches. Meanwhile, Zlata heard the people's comments in this thread and decided it was time to drop her mother as well. Crazy how that works. With Azalia reflecting the people who are scared of Isis in this thread. While Zlata is the people who think Aurora is pretty much useless. Which, if the vision is true, seems to be a valid take after all.

So basically, Azalia better than Zlata. Especially as a daughter. However, in terms of all of Elis children. I would say Selina would overall be the better child. Since she's not only powerful, but tries to interfere in the entities plans for Elis. After her, will possibly be the twins with Sera. Since they also seem to have the ability to perceive Elis through the blood.

As for Lia, we just have to hope that in a few years, she'll overcome her hybrid fever. But it seems like a slim chance. It would be extremely hard for her and borderline impossible to cover up currently. Since Lia legitimately doesn't go outside and doesn't have a husband. So her having children will instantly alert everyone. And Elis can't really cover it up. Unlike with Sera, Elin, Valeria and Josephine who all have/had husbands. Lia doesn't have that net.

 

[d2dacameron]

What path/choices (so far) do you think will lead to the happiest ending with Cass?

What major decisions do you think you should make/avoid?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

What path/choices (so far) do you think will lead to the happiest ending with Cass?

What major decisions do you think you should make/avoid?

Choose the white path by stopping the coup. Then select fix her. That's likely the best thing you can genuinely do for Cass. But if you're actually into her exclusively. The Green Path would likely be your thing. Even though I personally don't think that option is healthy for her mental state.

Green Path means you sided with her before the coup or joined her while in prison. White Path requires that you remain in prison and then defeat her coup attempt. I didn't mention the killing her part before the coup because that defeats the purpose of your question.

 

[Gicoo]

What path/choices (so far) do you think will lead to the happiest ending with Cass?

What major decisions do you think you should make/avoid?

Easy.
White path fix her > Green path big sister > Green path partner > White path break her > Red/White path kill her

Only green path is on dispute. Being an equal partner may be better to rein her in. If you are her sub brother, her self-destructive ways may overtake her. Also, Aurora is likely kinder to her, and easier to subdue while Isis is a questionable competition. Courting additional partners like the queen and Elin also adds more friction, better distance yourself from them.

 

[lesnO56]

Alright bet. Azalia is better. Just like her mother. Even her bloodline is superior. Not to mention, Zlata is the one that wants Elis to abandon his wife and her own mother. Which is actually pretty fucked up.

Zlata heard the people's comments in this thread and decided it was time to drop her mother as well. Crazy how that works.

It's funny, but the reasons you think Zlata is worse, I see as the same reasons why Zlata is better.
She's better precisely because it's crazy and fucked up.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

It's funny, but the reasons you think Zlata is worse, I see as the same reasons why Zlata is better.
She's better precisely because it's crazy and fucked up.

I don't think Zlata is worst because of how she sees Aurora. If anything, Zlata shares a similar view as myself. So we're actually in the same boat here lol. Though, I like Azalia much more than Zlata for other reasons.

Zlata is actually a worse daughter for people who love Aurora. Because her views align with the very people that don't think Aurora is useful beyond having Elis children. She looks down on her own mother and thinks she's worthless. Which basically means Aurora lovers are raising a Aurora hater themselves.

That's why it's funny to me.

 

[With The]

I play both wife path Aurora and Isis, as much i like Aurora as wife but the daughter for now Azalia is much better daughter. i like how protective she is even accuse her mother is cheater and trying to betray his father lmao... She is keeper for sure. For Zlata i'm not sure about this one, so far her attitude is not very likeable.

 

[lesnO56]

I think the average Lord/Vassal will be A LOT easier to keep happy though than Alaina, as their interests are pretty tied with the kingdom/empire, while Alaina's is directly not. And with what I want to do to the Elves anyway...She's got to go. Plain and Simple.

Bias. Subjectivity.
Alaina is a vassal like any other vassal. She seeks benefits for herself, just like any other vassal.

Alaina's interests are tied specifically to the protagonist. Because she's invested an extraordinary amount of time, resources, and effort in him.
I'm not naive, and I'm not saying she's faithful. But it's a normal relationship. Normal business.
Alaina has given a lot to the protagonist, hoping to receive benefits in return.

You're doing that thing you're accusing me and the other guy of doing here my guy. And showing your own Bias. If you can't at least try to understand how and why Cass is the way she is, and why she did what she did. Then you're just being a hypocrite.

I at least have acknowledged I am biased against Alaina. You should admit the same for Cass my dude.

As you may remember, I wrote earlier: "This is a naive and biased viewpoint (I don't judge)."
That is to say, I do not condemn bias at all.

And I'm biased against Cass, yes.
But I'm positively biased. My main playthrough is the green route. I really like Cass. The only thing I like more than Cass is Elin.
But I won't hide the fact that the white route and the option of not fixing her but breaking her into submission and putting her on a chain is also very appealing.
I find route "fix her" very boring. Fixing her takes away all her charisma.
Either a brash sister on a nearly equal footing, or a chain-whispering bitch.

It's just that right now, in the dialogue, I'm speaking in an accusatory manner toward Cass. But that doesn't mean I don't like her.
And it also doesn't negate the fact that she's a traitor. Personally, I don't care. The fact is, it doesn't paint her in a positive light.

And I'll repeat myself regarding Alaina. She is the protagonist's greatest source of power and utility.
This isn't bias. It's a fact.
The fact is that no one has done more for the protagonist than Alaina.
It's also a fact that her selfish motives don't negate all the benefits she's brought to the protagonist.
What's the point of being offended by the fact that you exist because of elven manipulation, lies, and intrigue?

And the fact is that no other vassal has done more for the protagonist than Alaina.
No one has lied so much, schemed so much, or killed so much for him (indirectly for her political interests, but the point is that her interests are projected through the protagonist, thus "for him").
Alaina was even more present in his life than his own mother.

See? I don't deny my bias (I have a fetish for white-haired elves), but nevertheless, I speak objectively; I don't turn a blind eye to her political interests.
I could say all these words even if I didn’t like Alaina subjectively.

I don't think relying on "nuclear deterrence" is a very effective means for making friends tbh...

I imagine LM is going to give us something a bit more positive for the players that want to go down the middle, like maybe having Elis marry an Elf like his father did. Or some kind of bond/trade in some other way. Not just trying to enforce this thing of "BE AFRAID OF THE OTHER SIDE, ONLY I CAN STOP IT."

Doesn't seem the best idea IMO.

Nobody wants to die, so it might work.

Dude...I am not Elis...I am not a Half-Elf. I am a human called 'Gibbo'.

And I want to see HUMAN SUPREMACY, and dead Elves. So I'm gonna use Elis to accomplish that, if I can.

I get it. You're just not getting into character. You're not roleplaying.
I'm going through this game, making choices that seem reasonable to me and that I would make in his place.

But everyone is undoubtedly having fun as best they can.

Look at this face, and try to tell me she's some irredeemable monster, with no hope for redemption...

Spoiler: SHE'S PERFECT.

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She's my little (in progress) ANGEL.

I find route "fix her" very boring. Fixing her takes away all her charisma. Fixing her looks like castrating her.
Either a brash sister on a nearly equal footing in green route, or a broken chain-whispering bitch in white, which I will make lick my boots.

Ewww, Alaina fanboyism...When Humanity wins the race war that's coming, you're going on a cross young man/woman/whatever the fuck you are...

You know, I don't choose to genocide the elves not because I lack depravity.
I take the dark and cruel side in almost all games.
I don't choose to genocide elves/humans because I lack rational necessity.
Because we're not allowed to choose who the protagonist will be.
For a half-human, half-elf, it's advantageous to reconcile elves and humans.
Now, if it were possible to choose a pure human or elf protagonist, that would be a different matter...

As it is, it's advantageous and roleplaying.

Because, where is the fun in playing as a genocidal maniac, if you don't at least attempt to justify it in your mind. Also because I usually don't play as villains in games, because I feel bad. So I now need to amp myself up for it.

If you need to justify a cruel act, you're not such a villain.
There are those who kill for logical reasons, and those who kill simply because they enjoy it emotionally.
The latter are undoubtedly worse.

I beat Conrad with the cup because, first and foremost, I subjectively enjoyed the scene and the subsequent dialogue between the protagonist and Cass/Guidon.
Only secondarily do I see a rational necessity in it.

 

[w123t4]

Alright bet. Azalia is better. Just like her mother. Even her bloodline is superior. Not to mention, Zlata is the one that wants Elis to abandon his wife and her own mother. Which is actually pretty fucked up. Compared to Azalia who's playing a wholesome game with her mother, Isis, on who's really trying to kill Elis lol.

Azalia is out there trying to protect her papa from her mother's clutches. Meanwhile, Zlata heard the people's comments in this thread and decided it was time to drop her mother as well. Crazy how that works. With Azalia reflecting the people who are scared of Isis in this thread. While Zlata is the people who think Aurora is pretty much useless. Which, if the vision is true, seems to be a valid take after all.

So basically, Azalia better than Zlata. Especially as a daughter. However, in terms of all of Elis children. I would say Selina would overall be the better child. Since she's not only powerful, but tries to interfere in the entities plans for Elis. After her, will possibly be the twins with Sera. Since they also seem to have the ability to perceive Elis through the blood.

As for Lia, we just have to hope that in a few years, she'll overcome her hybrid fever. But it seems like a slim chance. It would be extremely hard for her and borderline impossible to cover up currently. Since Lia legitimately doesn't go outside and doesn't have a husband. So her having children will instantly alert everyone. And Elis can't really cover it up. Unlike with Sera, Elin, Valeria and Josephine who all have/had husbands. Lia doesn't have that net.

Well, by your point of view it is quite fuck up for the attitude zlata towards her mother, I think it is the bloodline passed from her mother that affected her personality?

If you look into the vision for aurora it is mostly link to ice, cold, death, as the feeling are mostly negative and related to the north, it maybe related to her northern bloodline that make her cold to the others.

By looking at the latest vision, aurora become warm only because the others also being warm to her, it is interesting because either in the future aurora lose the favourite from elis or her seal herself by discovering elis's relationship with other women, which will turn her into that "useless" way in zlata's call.

As for zlata, while aurora and her sharing the same bloodline, the same affection may also affect her as well. By the vision it seems she is the opposite kind from her mother, even her mother's warm cannot warm her up and make her become an ice queen, which is funny that both wife have give birth to a different personality child, either having a dangerous mother and loyality daughter or warm lovely mother and the cold hateful daughter.

Overall, zlata seems not so well to be a good daughter to her mother, but as a good daughter to her father she seems doing quite well, she still care about her father, just not as well as azalia, so I am still looking forward to see her being a good Li if it is possible in the future.

Speaking of the children, selina is the most powerful one for sure since she is the combine of the reflection, but for the twins I don't think they are powerful enough like selina.Their talk with elis in the vision only showing the possibility of they killing each other successfully and they are only explaining why they kill their sister to the future elis(even they know the true identity for elis), while selina is reacting and interfering to the past timeline elis, which is a different level of power using.

For Lia, I am quite positive about the legality for her child, as we can see from the 10% preview there is a young male who similar to Lia's age appear and seems quite closed to her, maybe being her playmate or fiance, which will finally turn into the cover like lockheart to elin soon.

The most problem for Lia I think is her health, I don't think the fever will be healed unless elis solve the reflect cycle that make the red king and elf godness stop calling elis and Lia anymore, it will be impossible for Lia to be pregnant if she is not health enough and pointless for her to be pregnant as solving the cycle will only in the end of the story.

 

[GibboBtw]

Alaina's interests are tied specifically to the protagonist. Because she's invested an extraordinary amount of time, resources, and effort in him.
I'm not naive, and I'm not saying she's faithful. But it's a normal relationship. Normal business.
Alaina has given a lot to the protagonist, hoping to receive benefits in return.

I just wanna kill her because she's 100% going to be a major obstacle to my removing of the Elves.

But I do think some people, even people who love the Elves do still find the amount of control she's had over his life, and how indebted Elis is supposed to be to Alaina, to be a rather 'not-ideal' situation to be in. And would rather either have her removed to be able to have Elis be his own man, with nobody pulling his strings. Or at the very least, have her treat Elis as an equal.

But I won't hide the fact that the white route and the option of not fixing her but breaking her into submission and putting her on a chain is also very appealing.
I find route "fix her" very boring. Fixing her takes away all her charisma.
Either a brash sister on a nearly equal footing, or a chain-whispering bitch.

I think it has potential to be a very heart warming part of the story. She has been met in most of her life with cruelty, disdain and generally as something people can "use".

I'm down for some wholesome things to go her way, and see how and if she changes as a result. I think the same thing will also be able to happen during the Green Path. Just a bit less.

Nobody wants to die, so it might work.

Again though, I feel like just having things stay as they are now, with both sides pretty much both living in fear of one another, is just a powder keg waiting to explode.

I think the middle route will 100% give you something a bit more hopeful and have Elis try harder to make them co-exist as equals. I still think Val dropping that mention of him taking an Elven wife to be something that could happen, and would be quite dope ngl.

If you need to justify a cruel act, you're not such a villain.
There are those who kill for logical reasons, and those who kill simply because they enjoy it emotionally.
The latter are undoubtedly worse.

I think a villain you can somewhat understand, and see where they're coming from or why they're doing what they are. Is a MUUUUUCH better villain that one that is just a "typical comic book villain" Those are just rather boring. So trying to get into the mind of an Elis that is willing to brain his teacher/guardian like that, in front of everyone including his mother and sister. Is PEAK.

 

[lesnO56]

I think a villain you can somewhat understand, and see where they're coming from or why they're doing what they are. Is a MUUUUUCH better villain that one that is just a "typical comic book villain" Those are just rather boring. So trying to get into the mind of an Elis that is willing to brain his teacher/guardian like that, in front of everyone including his mother and sister. Is PEAK.

Then it's not a villain, but just the other side of the conflict.
If we move away from comics, then there are no heroes and villains.

 

[DontBeAfraidKid]

Then it's not a villain, but just the other side of the conflict.
If we move away from comics, then there are no heroes and villains.

I never said this bro why you quoting me, what is this glitch