VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.12] [Lazy Monkey]

[Quetzzz]

I think I understand him now: he's saying to thrust Elin so that Selina, who is on his side, can be born, but not to trust her because Elin would like me to spare Val, side with the rebels and not kill Alaina, all things that I suppose would benefit Mirta more.

Didn't the nature spirit (horse or unicorn, or something) also say to trust the mirror, meaning Elin?

 

[Echo2]

Could this be more up your alley?
Try it out and let me know what you think!

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[Filipis]

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I fixed those already, but forgot to update the files - will do that today!

 

[Echo2]

Didn't the nature spirit (horse or unicorn, or something) also say to trust the mirror, meaning Elin?

Yes:

The exhibitionist I meet while going to the West wants me to kill all three snakes, and since she's speaking on behalf "of all the souls trapped in the eternal cycle of life", she wants me to break the cycle (by killing all three snakes) and side with the Red Emperor, right? And she wants me to thrust trust Elin (pro twincest faction).

To be precise:

• the pale horse said "you spoke with your blood, it's time to speak with the reflection", "reflection of everything".
• the mysterious woman said that the pale horse is a reflection of all horses, that I should kill all the snakes, and "you must always trust only your reflection".

So, to recap:

• the Red Emperor wants me to fuck Elin (both Selina and the Red Emperor want me to break the cycle) and to do the opposite of what Elin suggests (not to spare Val, not to side with the rebels, etc.);
• the reflection of all things wants me to do as Elin suggests, and since it wants me to end the cycle then it probably wants me to fuck Elin, too;
• Mirta wants me to keep the cycle going, and therefore she does not want me to fuck Elin; I don't know if she wants me to do as Elin suggests, but probably she does.

 

[Quetzzz]

So, to recap:

• the Red Emperor wants me to fuck Elin (both Selina and the Red Emperor want me to break the cycle) and to do the opposite of what Elin suggests (not to spare Val, not to side with the rebels, etc.);
• the reflection of all things wants me to do as Elin suggests, and since it wants me to end the cycle then it probably wants me to fuck Elin, too;
• Mirta wants me to keep the cycle going, and therefore she does not want me to fuck Elin; I don't know if she wants me to do as Elin suggests, but probably she does.

I should probably play through this story a few more times to actually understand this.
With "the cycle", do you mean the next invasion by 1000 ships? At least, I understood that mention as a premonition and not a retelling of the past.
I think that if we kill Val, we need to kill the other snakes as well, since we were warned that if one was removed, they'd strangle the throne (or something to that end).

 

[FalconLover420]

I should probably play through this story a few more times to actually understand this.
With "the cycle", do you mean the next invasion by 1000 ships? At least, I understood that mention as a premonition and not a retelling of the past.
I think that if we kill Val, we need to kill the other snakes as well, since we were warned that if one was removed, they'd strangle the throne (or something to that end).

We still don't know who are the snakes because of bunch of them can be considered snakes.
However, almost everyone warns about killing one of these snakes can have consequences.

I don't believe Val is a snake because she is not a major player for the MC, that would be someone close to the MC or advisors

 

[Quetzzz]

I don't believe Val is a snake because she is not a major player for the MC, that would be someone close to the MC or advisors

It's been a while... Val was the Elven advisor, right?
I think the snake of the cradle fits her well, but you're right that many people could fit that description. It could also be Mirta in a broader sense.

 

[FalconLover420]

It's been a while... Val was the Elven advisor, right?
I think the snake of the cradle fits her well, but you're right that many people could fit that description. It could also be Mirta in a broader sense.

That would be Alaina, Val is the one you decided to take with, free or kill her for robbing a horse.

I think the snake of the cradle is either your wife or seraphina.
Alaina fits the snake of the throne as she basically is the kingmaker.

 

[Quetzzz]

That would be Alaina, Val is the one you decided to take with, free or kill her for robbing a horse.

Ohh, right! Thanks! Yeah, she's not a snake. I was thinking of Alaina.

I think the snake of the cradle is either your wife or seraphina.
Alaina fits the snake of the throne as she basically is the kingmaker.

Or maybe the Red Emperor, or the proxy of his influence.

From a narrative point of view, Val is an interesting case. So far (at least in my playthrough), we got to kill only three people. Val, Cass, and Alaina (or the uncle). It wouldn't surprise me if Val ended up being way more important than we suspect, and killing her early on can have significant consequences later. It wouldn't be the first story doing something like this, where a seemingly meaningless action of the protagonist on the first page dooms the world through a cascade of events.

 

[Canto Forte]

Emperor is not a passive position. The minute it becoms stale, Brutus comes along or Denzel to kill him/them.
Emperor means he stands no ground and always is on the offensive: MC can get into the court intrigues and mingle his will into the judgement they pass - of MC just kills her and becomes a tool of his guard, who wants her dead multimple times.
Killing Val wouls make MC be like one of his brides - killer of his subjects - so nothing new or unheard of, considering what the court decides for her fate even if we spare her.

the Red Emperor, or the proxy of his influence.

From a narrative point of view, Val is an interesting case. So far (at least in my playthrough), we got to kill only three people. Val, Cass, and Alaina (or the uncle). It wouldn't surprise me if Val ended up being way more important than we suspect, and killing her early on can have significant consequences later. It wouldn't be the first story doing something like this, where a seemingly meaningless action of the protagonist on the first page dooms the world through a cascade of events.

Emperor is Might makes Right, so why would MC be top dog but carry around Val as a burden of not doing the right thing - he rejects the openly stated direct fate of a thief. The first thing Ned Stark does is behead a guy asking for help. MC could have passed his own verdict and simply do not give Val up to the courts.

These are the conundrums of what actions MC takes and what they might mean to the game world.

 

[MRNK94]

14 handjobs don't make it interesting, just annoying.
Sad because it does have potential

 

[nightsouls]

After playing several times, I have some speculations.
First, of the three snakes, one is clearly Cass, another is the mother, but could the last one be Elin?
Second, is it possible that Cass's biological relationship with Conrad is closer than that with Elis?
Third, it's known that Elin and the mother have two paths: one of love and one of corruption. Could Lia also have two paths? It seems that taking her to the elven ruins early on unlocks the love path, while going straight home and making advances on her unlocks the corruption path?

 

[Malicre]

After playing several times, I have some speculations.
First, of the three snakes, one is clearly Cass, another is the mother, but could the last one be Elin?
Second, is it possible that Cass's biological relationship with Conrad is closer than that with Elis?
Third, it's known that Elin and the mother have two paths: one of love and one of corruption. Could Lia also have two paths? It seems that taking her to the elven ruins early on unlocks the love path, while going straight home and making advances on her unlocks the corruption path?

Yeah i bet most people would agree that cass and his mother are snakes but the 3rd could literally be anyone. There's quite a few other girls that show up at the post chapter screen like val and sona so who knows.

 

[GarudoSCHE]

After playing several times, I have some speculations.
First, of the three snakes, one is clearly Cass, another is the mother, but could the last one be Elin?
Second, is it possible that Cass's biological relationship with Conrad is closer than that with Elis?
Third, it's known that Elin and the mother have two paths: one of love and one of corruption. Could Lia also have two paths? It seems that taking her to the elven ruins early on unlocks the love path, while going straight home and making advances on her unlocks the corruption path?

1. I don't remember the exact episode, but after dinner with King Elin and his mother, Elis had a fit where he could choose whose vision he would see: Lia/Cass/Elin. I'm sticking with the idea that they are snakes, but then again, things could be completely different.
2. I'm no biology expert, but the cousins seem to be closer to each other genetically. But then again, I'm no expert.
3. Lia scenes are the same whether you went to the ruins or not, the only difference is "whether you played it safe or not." Although, when examined by a doctor, being a bookworm, she could get corr points, but they did not affect her path in any way, but simply changed the scene itself.

 

[nightsouls]

Yeah i bet most people would agree that cass and his mother are snakes but the 3rd could literally be anyone. There's quite a few other girls that show up at the post chapter screen like val and sona so who knows.

No, the prophecy clearly states that all three snakes come from Elis's family lineage. The snakes' tails in the original text implies that they all originate from his family.
The original text is as follows:Their tails stretch so far, you can climb up them to your home.
The three snakes symbolize three forces: the elves (the mother), humans (Cass and Conrad), and the third, presumably the liberals. Because Elin's egalitarian ideals are evident, I suspect the third snake represents her. She doesn't seem to pose a threat to Elis at the moment, but in the temple visions, she is depicted destroying everything, and the person who looks very much like her and killed the mage in the western tower also hints at something.

 

[nightsouls]

1. I don't remember the exact episode, but after dinner with King Elin and his mother, Elis had a fit where he could choose whose vision he would see: Lia/Cass/Elin. I'm sticking with the idea that they are snakes, but then again, things could be completely different.
2. I'm no biology expert, but the cousins seem to be closer to each other genetically. But then again, I'm no expert.
3. Lia scenes are the same whether you went to the ruins or not, the only difference is "whether you played it safe or not." Although, when examined by a doctor, being a bookworm, she could get corr points, but they did not affect her path in any way, but simply changed the scene itself.

1. Lia doesn't seem like someone who would get involved in politics.
2. I've always suspected that while the Red Emperor was fighting abroad, he could still get Regis's mother pregnant. What did the Red Emperor mean when he cried out "It wasn't me" before he died? Was the Red Emperor's injury because Regis wanted to usurp the throne?
3. There is a difference. If you choose to go straight home and touch Lia's leg, there will be an extra scene where you spank Lia after kissing the frog, and Lia seems to enjoy it.

 

[Malicre]

No, the prophecy clearly states that all three snakes come from Elis's family lineage. The snakes' tails in the original text implies that they all originate from his family.
The original text is as follows:Their tails stretch so far, you can climb up them to your home.
The three snakes symbolize three forces: the elves (the mother), humans (Cass and Conrad), and the third, presumably the liberals. Because Elin's egalitarian ideals are evident, I suspect the third snake represents her. She doesn't seem to pose a threat to Elis at the moment, but in the temple visions, she is depicted destroying everything, and the person who looks very much like her and killed the mage in the western tower also hints at something.

Your assuming that the king didn't sire a bunch of other children.

 

[falconhawk223]

Your assuming that the king didn't sire a bunch of other children.

They did they're just bastards unlikely to be important unless Elin's cousins really are his half siblings like a lot of people on here theorize. I think so far Cass and Conrad are the two most likely as being snakes

 

[P.zeus]

Snake 1 cass/Conrad (Cass was a tool so I think conrad is the snake) snake 2 Mother/Alina (mostly going Alina cuz you never get the option of killing mother and the snakes should be killable), snake 3 something to do with the mages, I don't think it's Elin, she's too on MC side, not trying to control or keep secrets, maybe she changes but for now I don't think we've seen the 3rd snake yet.

It seems like the people in the family are connected to the snakes they are not the snakes themselves. Lia is not on the board, she seems more like the one who has a general view, she knows everything going on

 

[DontBeAfraidKid]

50% and oh man this is such a beautiful picture