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Not sure if this going to be a popular take here, but personally I think this has way too many paths right now and it's kind of hurting the game.
I really liked the game when it came out because I love fantasy games but trying to play every path just feels like a chore and the rewards (sex scenes) don't really feel like they are worth the trouble. But at the same if you only play one route, the updates feel kind of small.
 

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I have a question about the girl names Spring, will her story continue? And what about Val, I was hoping I could sleep with her, but she just thanked me and disappears to search after her friend. I am not into rape, so I was hoping she will do it freely. Will her story continue as well?
 

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I have a question about the girl names Spring, will her story continue? And what about Val, I was hoping I could sleep with her, but she just thanked me and disappears to search after her friend. I am not into rape, so I was hoping she will do it freely. Will her story continue as well?
Spring is unlikely. She might appear again, assuming you slept with her. But she's a largely unimportant character. As for Val, she sort of transitions to a slow burn on her love route. Which is kind of bad. Since, she's a side character with not much importance as well.

So Val might continue to appear, but Spring is way too irrelevant to have anything important involving her.
 
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Not sure if this going to be a popular take here, but personally I think this has way too many paths right now and it's kind of hurting the game.
I really liked the game when it came out because I love fantasy games but trying to play every path just feels like a chore and the rewards (sex scenes) don't really feel like they are worth the trouble. But at the same if you only play one route, the updates feel kind of small.
I haven't really noticed to much of a difference on the paths to be honest. Most stuff gets kind of streamlined into the same outcome so the story can advance
 

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Spring is unlikely. She might appear again, assuming you slept with her. But she's a largely unimportant character. As for Val, she sort of transitions to a slow burn on her love route. Which is kind of bad. Since, she's a side character with not much importance as well.

So Val might continue to appear, but Spring is way too irrelevant to have anything important involving her.
I don't think Spring is so irrelevant since, potentially, she could be the mother of the protagonist's eldest child...

The biggest problem, I think, is that she's an optional character that's clearly more interesting. Since I went with the mage, Sona didn't interest me because nothing would happen, so I went with Spring instead...

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But a general question: in the next update, are we going north regardless of who's with our wives? I mean, since I married Aurora, the conversations about her pregnancy and missing her family seemed natural. But if I marry Isis, are we going north anyway? What was the justification?
 

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I don't think Spring is so irrelevant since, potentially, she could be the mother of the protagonist's eldest child...

The biggest problem, I think, is that she's an optional character that's clearly more interesting. Since I went with the mage, Sona didn't interest me because nothing would happen, so I went with Spring instead...

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But a general question: in the next update, are we going north regardless of who's with our wives? I mean, since I married Aurora, the conversations about her pregnancy and missing her family seemed natural. But if I marry Isis, are we going north anyway? What was the justification?
If you on mage or warrior path then Rosa is the one potentialy pregnant with Elis eldest child not Spring.
 

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I don't think Spring is so irrelevant since, potentially, she could be the mother of the protagonist's eldest child...

The biggest problem, I think, is that she's an optional character that's clearly more interesting. Since I went with the mage, Sona didn't interest me because nothing would happen, so I went with Spring instead...

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But a general question: in the next update, are we going north regardless of who's with our wives? I mean, since I married Aurora, the conversations about her pregnancy and missing her family seemed natural. But if I marry Isis, are we going north anyway? What was the justification?
Having Elis child doesn't make her important. As we've seen in the visions of blood. Not all of his children themselves are going to be important. Like when Val is pregnant. Their child doesn't appear in the blood. And like someone already mentioned. Spring doesn't give birth to Elis oldest child. That would be Rosa by virtue of Elis fucking her a day before Spring.

As for next update. Yes, Elis is going north regardless. The wife doesn't matter, but might have unique scenes. Like Aurora reuniting with her family. As for Isis. She and Sera are trying to build an information network in the North to help Elis before he goes.
 
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Also a bug report:
During this scene there seems to be a music layer in both the "Music" and "Sound" tracks, causing them them to double and overlap
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Tagged Lazy_Monkey for ya ;) .
Otherwise, he might miss your post.
This might be something I could have missed given I was paying more attention to missing translations and game interruption bugs rather than music.

Not sure if this going to be a popular take here, but personally I think this has way too many paths right now and it's kind of hurting the game.
I really liked the game when it came out because I love fantasy games but trying to play every path just feels like a chore and the rewards (sex scenes) don't really feel like they are worth the trouble. But at the same if you only play one route, the updates feel kind of small.
I mean, if you're merely playing the different paths just for the sex scenes, of course you'll feel disappointed.
But honestly for me, I play more for the story so I quite like how the dev is managing the branches.

He gives enough branches for there to be some differences in each path, yet the overall flow eventually converges, then once again branches out, repeating the pattern. I feel he's doing just right, without going crazy overboard.
And some path (like killing Cass or letting Catalina die in the Lords vs Vine Society arc) I just have zero interest in pursuing, so I don't bother anyway.

One tip I can give (though if you're already doing it and still feeling that, oh well.... :HideThePain: ) to avoid it feeling like a chore would be to use the ctrl-fast-skip (just press ctrl key) when playing through your second path.
Doing so will allow you to skip through all the text you've already seen in your first path playthrough and save you a lot of time, and hopefully make it less of a chore, fast forwarding you to the new/different scenes.

Some AVNs this ctrl-fast-skip function doesn't work correctly, but it works perfectly for this game.
 
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Craudiao

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Technically, the MC was no longer a virgin in the first scene, at least it didn't seem so. However, Spring explains who she is and even promises financial help if she gets pregnant. Whether she did or not wasn't mentioned. The point is, Rosa is married, a child could be concealed, and she, if I remember correctly, doesn't know the MC's true origins. Because of these issues, I imagine Spring is more impactful than Rosa in this regard. And well, one day before doesn't mean the baby will be born before, right? Even Val, who was born days later, with a pregnancy problem, could have her baby before both of them, let alone just 24 hours later...

And of course, if LM wants to simplify and avoid creating anything extra, they could simply mention that Spring had complications and lost the baby, that's it, no extra content, and the character wouldn't be forgotten...

But since there was the case of the elves kidnapping the farmer's child, I think that makes Spring potentially relevant.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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When you have 27 pics and not one shows sex scenes you lost me.
I'll take the bait. There's legitimately 3 back to back sex scenes in the very first couple of minutes in the game. Not to mention, majority of those women in the preview pictures all have multiple sex scenes as well. Some of those very scenes themselves leading into ones. So the game isn't lacking sex. Whether those scenes are good to you or not is something you'll have to find out yourself.

There's your answer.
 
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The last update's red emperor scenes fucking cool, Lm made a great job with that. Every episode it goes better and better, story and story telling is just awesome brother. I hope the update become faster, like he noted end of the episode.
 

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Not sure if this going to be a popular take here, but personally I think this has way too many paths right now and it's kind of hurting the game.
I really liked the game when it came out because I love fantasy games but trying to play every path just feels like a chore and the rewards (sex scenes) don't really feel like they are worth the trouble. But at the same if you only play one route, the updates feel kind of small.
The everlasting question if storyline with many paths is better than properly built linear storyline. It depends of writer's skills, which usually means that branching > linear storyline, because not many people can truly write good enough. But the obvous con is that updates will feel shorter, because there is a lot to cover on different branches.

And about this game, I think it has a reasonable balance those two ways. The branching changes some thins, but ultimately the story flow isnt't heavily affected by choices, and the entire storytelling remains coherent. Sure, it isn't perfect, but definitelly good enough to to not complain (excessively).
 

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After getting absolutely railroaded for the 80th time in the Blackmail Route after Cass the Cancerous Cunt's Coup, I just couldn't take getting choice-cucked by this bitch anymore, reloaded and chose the Fuck You Bitch option instead...and good LORD...that option is just objectively better in almost every single conceivable way. In the Blackmail Route, everything feels rushed, there's a ton of unresolved gaps in the plot, characters just appear out of nowhere with not much explanation (like Elin and your Wife) and the writing in generally feels incredibly...off. And of course that's not to mention all of the weird shit that happens in the West where the game builds up this perceived degree of choice, only to tell you to fuck off and do what your told from Cass. You also miss out on one the first major sexual scene with The Queen. UNFORGIVABLE

What's even more annoying is that the only reason I even made that sub-optimal choice is the game was pretty explicit with the threat that Cass was going to kill Lia if you don't comply...which she doesn't even bother to do if you tell her to fuck off lol. So you just went on this path for basically nothing. Genuinely the only downside seems to be the death of Aker and Ludwig...kinda on that last part, which is very sad since I liked them both...but not worth the absolute BULLSHIT that you are subjected to on the Blackmail Route.

This route just plain sucks to play. Its almost as if the dev knew from the start this route sucks and it was not the "right" choice from the beginning, hence why everything is so painfully underwhelming and underdeveloped. Oh well, glad I course corrected sooner rather than later. Also FUCK YOU CASS.
Is the Cass route really that bad? Was just about to start one.
 
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