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You know Conrad's not gonna sleep with you right?

Alaina is a schemer. Even she admits it. Full stop, that's all you need to know about her for now.

Conrad is that classic enforcer type that goes too far in a quest to root out what he sees is a conspiracy.

Also, how are you 100% sure what he did was fair and right by the Golden Order? Were you there? Are you just depending on what you're being told (hearsay)? The Golden Order already proved it's not foolproof with Val's sentence.
Conrad is a dog, thats it. But he is our dog, as of we know atleast.

Have you played the update? She admits all those things I said; you know, right? I am not pulling all these out of my ass. There is no reason for her to lie in that situation, she knows that right after MC starts to antogonise her all she had done and plan-to-do is for nothing. So I believe she really put her cards on the table.

Val is a proven thief already by yours actually, and she is an Elf. No need for further investigation for Golden Order to distribute its justice. And the Elves Conrad interrogated were illegals if not guilty so I believe he has right to torture them by the laws.

Ah let's not forget how Alaina taunted (?) Conrad when you were in the West. Thats what made Conrad to start his investigation, according to him ofc. Also if you choose to be shown 'present' when Mysterious Woman asks you, she shows you exactly this scene I am talking about.
 

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Conrad is a dog, thats it. But he is our dog, as of we know atleast.

Have you played the update? She admits all those things I said; you know, right? I am not pulling all these out of my ass. There is no reason for her to lie in that situation, she knows that right after MC starts to antogonise her all she had done and plan-to-do is for nothing. So I believe she really put her cards on the table.

Val is a proven thief already by yours actually, and she is an Elf. No need for further investigation for Golden Order to distribute its justice. And the Elves Conrad interrogated were illegals if not guilty so I believe he has right to torture them by the laws.

Ah let's not forget how Alaina taunted (?) Conrad when you were in the West. Thats what made Conrad to start his investigation, according to him ofc. Also if you choose to be shown 'present' when Mysterious Woman asks you, she shows you exactly this scene I am talking about.
That "as we know of" is super important. Thinking he's our dog will just lead to getting bitten in the ass.

You did actually got me to thinking about something, though.

The scene with the Golden Order was demonstrating that they will absolutely subject elves to harsher punishments than the other races, otherwise there would be no need to show them doing their jobs. If you help Val, she ends up as Alaina's apprentice and then just disappears. Where is she when Conrad is on his witch hunt? She's not brought up at all during the confrontation at court. Either Alaina has her hidden (which is entirely possible), it's a writing oversight, or something else is at play.
 

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Alright, since I believe I saw all of the sex scenes now. I would say the best to worse of the update are:

1. Sera (Lust)
2. Priscilla
3. Lia
4. Isis
5. Aurora
6. Sera (Love)

Sera lust scene is the best of the update. The entire thing was done well from start to finish. From Elis wearing her down to it finally boiling over into sex. And there was no breaks between it. You get a decently long scene of her corruption from start to finish with no interruptions. As a long await scene, it came out great. And the best part was the camera was on point the entire time. Easily being one of my current top 3 scenes in the game.

Priscilla. Honestly, her scene wasn't as great as I imagined. But for what was shown, it was pretty good. However, like a few other sex scenes in the game. It's a victim of the camera angle. You couldn't even see the blowjob. Barely could see her tits. Some of her best proportions were basically body blocked by Elis or too far away to get a good view. Hell, even the ending with her splitting was a bit over the top for the scene and didn't really show off her ass well. So with that in mind, the scene could've been great but was pulled down by some of the choices made. Still, easily in my top 5, currently.

Lia. Honestly, whatever sex demon is possessing her. They have her soul in a chokehold. She got to be one of the horniest characters in the game. From trying to fuck Elis in front of their family to getting pounded into oblivion and still wanting more lol. It's probably up there in my list of sex scenes.

Isis. Her blowjob scene wasn't too crazy, but it was good. Not really much else to say about it. Just something hot to look at. Since this would be her first blowjob she's given Elis, I believe.

Aurora. I actually wasn't a fan of the scene. While I'm fine with pregnancy sex. This one didn't really do much for me. Could be the position chosen, but I wasn't feeling it. So it was an alright scene.

Sera (Love) scene. This is simultaneously the funniest, but horrible sex scene. Like, what really was the thought behind that scene? She sneaks into his room and gives him a bj before riding and leaving. Where was the love in that scene? I truly believe that the lust scenes are just vastly better. They're properly set up and then delivered to completion. Whereas the love scenes feel more like they're just going through the motions by comparison.

So to finish this by speaking on their overall placements. Sera lust scene and Priscilla scene enters top 5. Lia scene was pretty good. The horny pervert. Isis scene was good for what it was, but I don't think her BJ compares to Elin's after the ball with the ring. Legit still the best Blowjob scene in the game with Cass first BJ and Lia's following after it. Aurora scene was alright. And lastly, Sera love scene was I don't even know. Even in isolation, it's kind of a weird scene.
 

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You can say Isis. The name has multiple meanings and everyone here will know who you are talking about.

Looks wise, Isis all day. Personality wise, Aurora. Since this is eventual partial harem type stuff, I tend to go with personality over looks and choose Aurora. It also depends on what the playthrough is about. If it's a red playthrough, then Isis all the way. White I favor Aurora. Green I tend to go with Aurora as well based on the whole personality over looks thing.

The choice gives me GoT vibes from how Isis represents the south or Dorne. Sounds like good friends to have but the clan situation is so messy you never know if they will be there tomorrow thanks to all the intrigue.
Aurora sounds like the "safer" choice given the stability of the north but it's also described as an ally who wouldn't be able to provide as much support.
Personality wise I still choose Isis. I'm not really into the shy types and Aurora is way to boring for me. Isis actually bothers to do stuff and at least tries to make the mc more powerful as a ruler. Aurora basically just stands there looking pretty. Isis is also so at least ok with the mc having a harem which Aurora hasn't show any signs that she's interested in. Don't get me wrong there are some stuff I dislike about Isis too but she's at least trusts the mc's judgement even if she disagrees with it and doesn't want to act against him. Bookworm on White route is the only time I ever bothered with Aurora and I picked Isis on every other route.
 

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Personality wise I still choose Isis. I'm not really into the shy types and Aurora is way to boring for me. Isis actually bothers to do stuff and at least tries to make the mc more powerful as a ruler. Aurora basically just stands there looking pretty. Isis is also so at least ok with the mc having a harem which Aurora hasn't show any signs that she's interested in. Don't get me wrong there are some stuff I dislike about Isis too but she's at least trusts the mc's judgement even if she disagrees with it and doesn't want to act against him. Bookworm on White route is the only time I ever bothered with Aurora and I picked Isis on every other route.
I do wish Aurora was more...conscious of a possible harem. I wouldn't be surprised if it led to some kind of conflict with her down the road. Nothing route breaking just some kind of additional scene.
 

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I’m really curious what all the Cass worshippers are thinking, now that Alaina revealed that basically she is the one who was behind everything. She may not be telling the truth about everything, but she’s definitely playing the long game.

Isn’t Cass such a badass? She’s the only one with any agency in this game, all the others are just being thrown around. I hope Alaina realises soon that she’s playing right into Cass’ hands, and soon she’ll be the one in prison
 

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I’m really curious what all the Cass worshippers are thinking, now that Alaina revealed that basically she is the one who was behind everything. She may not be telling the truth about everything, but she’s definitely playing the long game.

Isn’t Cass such a badass? She’s the only one with any agency in this game, all the others are just being thrown around. I hope Alaina realises soon that she’s playing right into Cass’ hands, and soon she’ll be the one in prison
Great, the number of characters with agency have increased from one to two. This changes everything.
Cass still plotted for years to kill the king and went for a change, so someone helping her for their own benefits doesn't diminish Cass in any way.
 

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I’m really curious what all the Cass worshippers are thinking, now that Alaina revealed that basically she is the one who was behind everything. She may not be telling the truth about everything, but she’s definitely playing the long game.

Isn’t Cass such a badass? She’s the only one with any agency in this game, all the others are just being thrown around. I hope Alaina realises soon that she’s playing right into Cass’ hands, and soon she’ll be the one in prison
Isis already humiliated Cass in the Red route with the poisoned cups shenanigans, showing her how much of a big fish in a small pond Cass actually is. Alaina being able to manipulate her also was already shown if you spare Cass and pick the "present" option with the Moon Lady. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets backstabbed by someone in the Green route too with the way things are going, as Isis said she is a weak player, she was only able to pull the coup in the first place because there were other bigger, badder schemers using her for their own purposes.
 

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Isis already humiliated Cass in the Red route with the poisoned cups shenanigans, showing her how much of a big fish in a small pond Cass actually is. Alaina being able to manipulate her also was already shown if you spare Cass and pick the "present" option with the Moon Lady. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets backstabbed by someone in the Green route too with the way things are going, as Isis said she is a weak player, she was only able to pull the coup in the first place because there were other bigger, badder schemers using her for their own purposes.
Not just that. Cass entire plan requires Elis to basically self sabotage. If he doesn't, her plan falls apart. Several ways at that too. Something that we all knew already, but she even acknowledged this very fact this update. Essentially, Cass was never that big of a player. She doesn't have enough experience and needs time to grow. Her supposed biggest play of the Coup was all driven by a lie Alaina told her and has one of the easiest fail conditions. That being Elis refusal. And from what we currently know, she had no back up plan in the case of him not helping her.

Don't get me wrong. Cass has potential. But she's definitely not as strong of a player as she would believe she is on the board.
 
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Alright, since I believe I saw all of the sex scenes now. I would say the best to worse of the update are:

1. Sera (Lust)
2. Priscilla
3. Lia
4. Isis
5. Aurora
6. Sera (Love)

Sera lust scene is the best of the update. The entire thing was done well from start to finish. From Elis wearing her down to it finally boiling over into sex. And there was no breaks between it. You get a decently long scene of her corruption from start to finish with no interruptions. As a long await scene, it came out great. And the best part was the camera was on point the entire time. Easily being one of my current top 3 scenes in the game.

Lia. Honestly, whatever sex demon is possessing her. They have her soul in a chokehold. She got to be one of the horniest characters in the game. From trying to fuck Elis in front of their family to getting pounded into oblivion and still wanting more lol. It's probably up there in my list of sex scenes.

Sera (Love) scene. This is simultaneously the funniest, but horrible sex scene. Like, what really was the thought behind that scene? She sneaks into his room and gives him a bj before riding and leaving. Where was the love in that scene? I truly believe that the lust scenes are just vastly better. They're properly set up and then delivered to completion. Whereas the love scenes feel more like they're just going through the motions by comparison.
100% agree here. The Lust routes in general seem to be given more attention. Could be a simple consequence of Lust (by virtue of being Lust) being more 'erotic' than Love, but Love scenes just fall flat in comparison.

The Seraphina Love scene being the biggest offender in the "where the fuck is this coming from?" category; if the scene just focused on a blowjob instead of full-on sex (which was not setup properly AT ALL), maybe I could've excused it as I have so far, but this time it really comes across as tacked on for the sake of both paths having sex scenes.

At least LM confirmed to me in DMs that the Queen will be getting more scenes in 1.1, so maybe he takes this feedback into consideration when writing those. I just wish this could've been avoided in the first place; I would've gladly taken a blowjob over sex, as long as it followed the flow of the narrative (which sex didn't).

Lia is a damn sex fiend, and her scenes are also S-tier. I thought MC was horny, but this girl doesn't care that she won't be able to be married off if she's not a virgin... and pregnant with MC's baby. :p
 
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I never would have guessed that Alaina would be the most dangerous character in the game. I tried to remain neutral, but the elves really started to turn my stomach. They pitted families against each other, caused internal conflicts and wars, and led to the deaths of countless innocent people. Alaina has been manipulating Cass and her aunt for years, and she probably killed everyone who knew the truth about our father, including our grandmother...

Alaina goes beyond using people like puppets; she even kills innocent people to achieve her goals. She is extremely dangerous, and I will execute her at the first opportunity.

This update really ruined the queen's love route. If there had been an option to address the queen by name in the love route, it would have been much more romantic. I have no issue with Wincest fans, but every time Mc addresses the queen as *other, it ruins the romantic atmosphere.
 
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I never would have guessed that Alaina would be the most dangerous character in the game. I tried to remain neutral, but the elves really started to turn my stomach. They pitted families against each other, caused internal conflicts and wars, and led to the deaths of countless innocent people. Alaina has been manipulating Cass and her aunt for years, and she probably killed everyone who knew the truth about our father, including our grandmother...

Alaina goes beyond using people like puppets; she even kills innocent people to achieve her goals. She is extremely dangerous, and I will execute her at the first opportunity.

This update really ruined the queen's love route. If there had been an option to address the queen by name in the love route, it would have been much more romantic. I have no issue with Wincest fans, but every time Mc addresses the queen as *other, it ruins the romantic atmosphere.
Yeah, Elves have resorted to some truly heinous tactics to gain the upper hand in their war against humans. I can't condone killing of "innocents" (if those people hate them, they still haven't done anything directly against them) just so that a half-elf can sit on the throne and maybe rule in your favor.

However, I disagree on the Queen scenes. I can understand wanting to differentiate the two routes in having the MC and Queen embrace their taboo relationship by calling each other m*ther and s*n during sex (Corruption) - as opposed to MC and the Queen using their real names like a normal man & woman would (Love).

But the whole appeal in their relationship is that taboo factor. The main difference should be in how the two go about that relationship - Love should be centered around building a family, while Corruption should be about enjoying the forbidden aspect of it, consequences be damned.

(Besides, the Love route has been 'ruined' with the execution of it, not the principle).
 

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But the whole appeal in their relationship is that taboo factor. The main difference should be in how the two go about that relationship - Love should be centered around building a family, while Corruption should be about enjoying the forbidden aspect of it, consequences be damned.
That's why I like Elin's “love” path more than the “Corruption” path. Yes, the scene is a little ‘hot’ on the Corr path, but from a narrative point of view, the “love” path fits better with it. With Seraphina, it's exactly the opposite.
 
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Yeah, Elves have resorted to some truly heinous tactics to gain the upper hand in their war against humans. I can't condone killing of "innocents" (if those people hate them, they still haven't done anything directly against them) just so that a half-elf can sit on the throne and maybe rule in your favor.

However, I disagree on the Queen scenes. I can understand wanting to differentiate the two routes in having the MC and Queen embrace their taboo relationship by calling each other m*ther and s*n during sex (Corruption) - as opposed to MC and the Queen using their real names like a normal man & woman would (Love).

But the whole appeal in their relationship is that taboo factor. The main difference should be in how the two go about that relationship - Love should be centered around building a family, while Corruption should be about enjoying the forbidden aspect of it, consequences be damned.

(Besides, the Love route has been 'ruined' with the execution of it, not the principle).
'Ruined' is a big word for now if you ask me, we are still probably in one-third of the game in total and we got to the serious phase with Elin and Seraphine in the last two updates. Besides, I love Elin's love route more than the alternative.

That's why I like Elin's “love” path more than the “Corruption” path. Yes, the scene is a little ‘hot’ on the Corr path, but from a narrative point of view, the “love” path fits better with it. With Seraphina, it's exactly the opposite.
If only the scene itself and the build-up before it got extended a little bit or the scene itself would have moved on to the oncoming update (since it will be the second part of the 1.0) ppl wouldn't complain about it so much tbh.
 
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If only the scene itself and the build-up before it got extended a little bit or the scene itself would have moved on to the oncoming update (since it will be the second part of the 1.0) ppl wouldn't complain about it so much tbh.
In his previous game, the author managed to make both paths for the sister/mother good. Let's hope it will be good here too.
 
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Yeah, Elves have resorted to some truly heinous tactics to gain the upper hand in their war against humans. I can't condone killing of "innocents" (if those people hate them, they still haven't done anything directly against them) just so that a half-elf can sit on the throne and maybe rule in your favor.

However, I disagree on the Queen scenes. I can understand wanting to differentiate the two routes in having the MC and Queen embrace their taboo relationship by calling each other m*ther and s*n during sex (Corruption) - as opposed to MC and the Queen using their real names like a normal man & woman would (Love).

But the whole appeal in their relationship is that taboo factor. The main difference should be in how the two go about that relationship - Love should be centered around building a family, while Corruption should be about enjoying the forbidden aspect of it, consequences be damned.

(Besides, the Love route has been 'ruined' with the execution of it, not the principle).
When I said that the Queen's love path was ruined, I was referring to the sex scene, I was really disappointed. Developer, if you're reading this, re-edit that scene to make sense immediately!!!

I'm hoping that the Queen will start acting less like a *other and more like a wife/lover as the love route progresses. There is still time to get to that point, but when they get there, it would be nice if they at least address each other by their first names.
I am trying to say that it is not romantic to stimulate your lover's maternal feelings by constantly calling her *other.
This is how I think, I am not saying that I am absolutely right or justified.

Lia "s route is also ruined, it is as if that cute girl has gone and a horny dog has come instead. I was torn between Elin and Lia, but thanks to the developer, I am now sure that Elin is my favorite.

By the way, Cass, fuck you.
 
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