Filipis

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Why does the dev need translation? I've read their posts and their English is fine? Or is it a time thing? Does the dev take any volunteer translators?
The dev is purely reliant on LLM/AI tools to translate the game from Russian to English, the result of which is a lot of idioms and phrases sounding very dumb/unnatural. The latest update even has missing nouns/verbs from sentences (thanks to Grok AI), but there's not much the dev can do about it; hiring a translator would prolong the dev time by a few weeks, as LM only actually scripts the game near the end of his development schedule.

I am doing my best to rework the whole experience from top to bottom, but it is also slow - you can check out my work so far under the "Improved Translation" mod linked in the OP.
 

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This was an interesting update:
1. Cass's fix path is very romantic. It's a shame each update only shows one scene.
2. Elin was absolutely shine in this update. I think future decisions we make regarding her will likely impact Elis's wife as well.
And the scene where Elin is obsessed with her future daughter made me scared.
3.The scenes with the portals: it didn't become any clearer what they wanted to tell us.
Maybe it's a hint that they'd be better off away from all this. After all, Elin from the second world and Elis seem to be doing well.

4. Lia...it's just so much fun. Just like Valeria.
5. I've only played the Queen's Love Path, and it's pretty decent. Of course, it doesn't compare to the Love Path from Dev's previous game, but then again, the game's setting imposes limitations, and I think LM does a good job within its limitations.
6. As for the AI, it doesn't bother me at all. As long as they're purely for animations and don't affect the game's artistic style.


PS:: I think this update makes it clear that our enemies aren't Alaina or Konrad, but someone completely different. But that person's people are already in the castle. Our ultimate goal will likely be to unite everyone: Elves, dwarves, orcs, and so on, against this threat.

 
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Filipis

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!!!SPOILERS!!!
Elin, despite accepting our reasons every time never completely surrenders to it. Getting more and more jealous each update. I fear impregnation of other characters -besides the side chars- will fuel her jealousy further. Or at some point she will surrender completely. I wonder if Love/ Lust divergence will have any effect on it.
It is my long-standing hope that Lust paths lead to a formation of a harem, while Love path leads to a Love ending where you marry the LI and make her Queen.

However, dialogue between Elin and Elis suggests he loves her the same on both paths, with the difference only being in the level of 'depravity' in their sex scenes.
Lia has the weakest arc among all, I wonder if LM will be ever able to turn it around.
What do you mean by "weak"?
Lia has been a nymphomaniac from the start, and she's staying that way. Actually, she might've started a new character development arc after confessing to Elis (in this update) that she loved him like a lover, not just her brother.
And despite how invested Lia is about getting married, at least she is enthusiastic about literally cucking her future husband with Elis, being willing to poison her husband just so she can keep having sex/get pregnant by Elis.

Queen's pregnancy concluded kinda hasty but otherwise story would branch unnecessarily so no complaint.
On this, we agree. Serafina's initial suggestion was one of our initial theories here on the thread (that she leaves for the elven groves to give birth and essentially present the child as someone else's that she takes in), but then she straight-up admitted to Regis that she got pregnant by a lover she took while he was out - and he didn't give a damn, allowing her to keep the child in the castle... just not recognizing it. It felt too good to be true, but I suppose it serves the plot and allows Serafina to keep having Elis' children.
And prophecy... my fav topic ngl. Been a sucker for it all my livehood. It seems, important ones -like Blood Visions- will thrive or conclude in Cycle/ Starhead prophecy, as it has become the main prophecy for now imo.

I liked the scenes in flashbacks, especially the ones included Lothric was pretty cool. Lewd scenes was... pretty meh? They were short and uncreative on the part of position variancy and most importantly: LM being stubborn about the camera positioning is a big mystery to me. We saw Elis's ass more than boobs at this point. Maybe we have a secret foid fanclub here, lurking in the shadows.
True.
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I'm not bigfan on leaving comments because, it's all subjective. What one person hates, another might love, and a third couldn't care. But am I the only one who finds these AI-generated "inserts" way too rough/cringy and honestly pointless? If they just replace a static scene, mb they not needed?
LM asked us on Patreon if we want more AI scenes to ease his burden during development, and it was an overwhelming yes - but only if used for edge cases, like generating backgrounds and kissing scenes (which are a pain to animate "by hand"); which explains why the update was heavy on kissing scenes. Might've overdone it a bit, too, but they were a good use of AI.

LM will not be using AI to animate the proper sex scenes, rest assured.
There was one. Months went by right before the children were born. Elin visibly showing by the end. I imagine it'll slow down for a bit now. At least until Azalia and Zlata can be conceived. So no huge timeskip of years for now. Since they seem to be more important than their brothers. Though, I don't know if I can say that for sure anymore. If the sky changes than that's proof that they are. Since they will signal the invasion coming.
Actually, I think we'll be getting another timeskip in 0.13 already.

Elis plans on waiting half a year for his son to get a little older/stronger for the trip to North, and Lia's wedding is also exactly supposed to happen in 6 months + combined with the "several months later" skip in 0.12, it should mean that Elin and Serafina also give birth just before he heads North (so Elis doesn't miss their births, as trips to other areas take months).

My guess is that Elis will also get to impregnate Lia on her wedding night (as promised), and then the plot moves forward.

2. The child birth was pretty touching. Obviously, I enjoyed Isis one the most. She was legit losing her mind during it and from that headache. I hope she really does have "dumb" slip ups in the future after this. And as for Aurora, If not for the vision from last update. I wouldn't see anything wrong with hers. But that obsession to be always next to their son felt unnatural. The vision of her being cold really tainted that scene for me. Even though it might not even be connected.
It's actually common for first-time mothers to be overprotective of their newborns, so it's not saying much about Aurora.
3. Lia scene was probably the best this update, but that's honestly not saying much. I also did like how her confession to Elis afterwards. But it felt a little cliche.
Lia's scene is among the best in the game so far.
4. Might be too early to say this, but it felt like the Snake Prophecy just took a massive backseat. Yeah, it was always about the reflection and the Moon Lady. But after last update, and now this one. It seems rather minor compared to this thing. As far as I noticed, nothing was mentioned or hinted at about the snakes. Mostly, it just focused on the cycles of races invading. Which last update, we got a brief look at. With Elis and his son fighting it.
A Queen of Snakes was mentioned right at the start, though. Could it be the third snake?
5. The Seraphina and Ragvelion thing went by too casually for my liking.
Agreed. No major discussion with Serafina or "Regis", with Serafina just casually mentioning she kept Ragvelion's secret, so now he'll keep her child's origins a secret in return. Over too quickly for what should be major drama.
9. Who killed the Red Emperor? So far, I think he died supernaturally, but we'll see.
My guess is: an elf assassin. The murder seems impossible otherwise, unless magic was used.
What she said in the dungeon in this update make me feel that she becomes more and more crazy in each update. She asks elis will he love her child like how he loves her, from what I understand it has three meanings.
1, Just by the word means, afraid of elis not love her as his own child(she actually is but cannot admit publicly)
2, Afraid the love from elis will transfer from her to their child, make her not the one who elis love most but in the second place
3, Afraid elis will develop incest feeling towards the child like herself and maybe even replace her in the future
By her reaction I believe is 2, maybe some 3, no wonder elin is one of the doom ending as she may jealous enough to kill selena in the future.
Elin was probably concerned Elis would abandon her and their child, afraid that Elis is using her for sex and doesn't truly love her. But you're right, maybe LM is hinting at potential F/D stuff in the future... who knows...
 

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i have same issue with saves. getting:
Error is ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'renpy.display.scenelists'
The cause is the version of renpy who's different on the the compressed version of the game 8.1.1/8.3.2, so for those who wonder about how to solve the save problem, you'll just have to download the full version of the game
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Can somebody split download into two parts? File size is above free download limit for both Mega and Pixeldrain
 
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Normally I avoid interacting with cass as much as possible but today while doing a replay, I decided to interact some with cass and I noticed this:

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I recognized this coin, first because of tommy in BADIK. And then I thought, oh wait isn't this a drachma? so I googled it and this is what I found:

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It's a nice little easter egg ^^
 

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Normally I avoid interacting with cass as much as possible but today while doing a replay, I decided to interact some with cass and I noticed this:

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I recognized this coin, first because of tommy in BADIK. And then I thought, oh wait isn't this a drachma? so I googled it and this is what I found:

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It's a nice little easter egg ^^
I don't mean to by cynical but I doubt it's a reference. It's probably a premade daz asset that LM just put into the game because he needed a coin for that scene
 

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What do you mean by "weak"?
Lia has been a nymphomaniac from the start, and she's staying that way. Actually, she might've started a new character development arc after confessing to Elis (in this update) that she loved him like a lover, not just her brother.
And despite how invested Lia is about getting married, at least she is enthusiastic about literally cucking her future husband with Elis, being willing to poison her husband just so she can keep having sex/get pregnant by Elis.
Story-wise. Among the main LIs, she has the weakest impact on story, its pretty linear and no real choice in it except impregnation and cucking, which can be understood given her situation but I really don't think it will be developed beyond 'shared' blood visions and cucking. I hope LM will prove me wrong.

My guess is: an elf assassin. The murder seems impossible otherwise, unless magic was used.
Whoever that is; Magna is the key culprit for both tower massacre and Red Emperor's assassination even if she didn't do all those by herself. I am amazed how Elis didn't catch her name between the dialogues with Emperor, he has ADHD or something I swear. It was just previous update that her name was mentioned and it wasn't a minor thing XD.
 

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Honesty, why do the intimate scenes with a main character like Elin feel so garbage, while a side character like Valerie gets multiple new scenes? Is the main love interest being switched, or is Elin not actually the main character?

Let's compare:
Elin: 1 scene and done.
Valerie: 3/4 scenes, plus scene in cart.

The development priorities is very questionable.
 

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The cause is the version of renpy who's different on the the compressed version of the game 8.1.1/8.3.2, so for those who wonder about how to solve the save problem, you'll just have to download the full version of the game
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i was actually able to get it to work, unpacked the current version of IC.. then took previous version i had and copied all except game folder to current IC folder. that way renpy is now the required version :) and i save space on HD.


if anyone wants to do it, do it at own risk, cant guarantee anything - that it doesnt break anything for future etc(although it shouldn't, as game files are completely untouched).
 

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I try different ones. The last update was done in half by Chatgpt and Deepseek, For the first 5 events in this update I used Grok.
He seemed to be good at first. But even my meager knowledge of English is enough to understand that Grok went a little crazy in the translation process. I have no idea why he decided to skip whole words for no reason. But it's my fault anyway. I'll be more careful next time / try to fix the most terrible pieces of text. I would appreciate it if you could help me find these fragments of text, after all, I am not a native speaker of the language and it may take me a long time. I fixed the conversation in the dungeon as much as possible, but I think there's more.
Grok had a adjustment and he went a little wild. Grok is probably my favorite but every year he gets a weird tweek and goes crazy for a while.
 

Filipis

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Story-wise. Among the main LIs, she has the weakest impact on story, its pretty linear and no real choice in it except impregnation and cucking, which can be understood given her situation but I really don't think it will be developed beyond 'shared' blood visions and cucking. I hope LM will prove me wrong.
That's to be expected. Lia is just one of those women in the story that serves the purpose of providing "free" sex scenes when there is no narrative room for scenes with more 'important' women (like Elin, Serafina, and Cass). And that's fine to have. Not every character needs a major story arc.
Whoever that is; Magna is the key culprit for both tower massacre and Red Emperor's assassination even if she didn't do all those by herself. I am amazed how Elis didn't catch her name between the dialogues with Emperor, he has ADHD or something I swear. It was just previous update that her name was mentioned and it wasn't a minor thing XD.
I must've missed her name mentioned in 0.11, unless you mean the path where Elin isn't pregnant, then the culprit behind the mage killings is not implied to be Elin/Selina but Magna?
 

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That's to be expected. Lia is just one of those women in the story that serves the purpose of providing "free" sex scenes when there is no narrative room for scenes with more 'important' women (like Elin, Serafina, and Cass). And that's fine to have. Not every character needs a major story arc.

I must've missed her name mentioned in 0.11, unless you mean the path where Elin isn't pregnant, then the culprit behind the mage killings is not implied to be Elin/Selina but Magna?
IDK
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Woah woah, an update?? But before all of that hold up wait a minute. We must greet first the most delusional guy in this thread, Storm. If I remember the last update I heard from you is you're making a new account to cry about in this thread, but instead they caught you immediately, because you created the account one day and starts crying in this thread. Awwww Isn't that just embarrassing that you're making a new account for what? To help yourself?

Im going to play the new update now.
 
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