ninjasamuri

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You can easily get all of Valerie sex scenes (four total) on both the Lords and Rebel routes. Meanwhile, Elin sex scenes are split between the Corrupt and Love routes, and you can see how the scene workout, she basically has one fk scene with Elis, and then it's over. But with Valerie, they're fk like five or six times.
Now who is main li now? i get that she win the poll but does not change the fact that Elin scene is totally garbage.
What four sex scenes, You either rape Val in the forest (1) or don't if you did you can rape her after her trial (2), now you either came inside her and got her pregnancy route or you didn't if you didn't she switches to her good route her reunion has no sex.
Complete drama queen pretending she has scenes left and right
 
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I don't mean to by cynical but I doubt it's a reference. It's probably a premade daz asset that LM just put into the game because he needed a coin for that scene
if it references to something IRL and provokes you to look it up, imo it's an easteregg.

Now my turn to say; not to be cynical but... don't tell me that the drachma is the only premade asset of a coin in DAZ
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What four sex scenes, You either rape Val in the forest (1) or don't if you did you can rape her after her trial (2), now you either came inside her and got her pregnancy route or you didn't if you didn't she switches to her good route her reunion has no sex.
Complete drama queen pretending she has scenes left and right
Val and Valerie is different girl.
Val = Elf
Valerie= Human lords wife.
 

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What four sex scenes, You either rape Val in the forest (1) or don't if you did you can rape her after her trial (2), now you either came inside her and got her pregnancy route or you didn't if you didn't she switches to her good route her reunion has no sex.
Complete drama queen pretending she has scenes left and right
I think you're a little confused here big man.

This is Val. The Elf thief that you meet early on in the game. And can have a couple of different types of relationship with, Rape, Murdered or Not.
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This is Valeria. The Human nobles wife from the west. That you can fuck on your first visit, and then again if you don't kill her son. AND THEN AGAIN when she visits the capital twice.
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Different people chum.
 

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Selina is definitely stronger than Elin, for sure.
IIRC in one of the visions Elis gets where we can see a pregnant elf standing in front of a mirror and there seem to be two competing voices that are trying to influence the person standing in front of the mirror one for and one against the creation of a mirror image, with the one for its creation saying something about there being great power in the mirror image. My memory of this scene is fuzzy, but what I understood from it is that there is great power in the mirror image, but it is also very dangerous. And given that Selina is a product of the combination of both the original and the mirror images I think that whatever power she receives as a result of that is enormous (perhaps it rivals that of a deity) and also has immense potential to be catastrophic.

Given the meaning of Selina's name (it is related to the moon) and the fact that when she contacts Elis we also see a large full moon in the sky I think that there is a connection between her and the woman we meet in the forest when en route to the West. That woman seems to me to also be connected to the moon. She speaks of ending the cycle of death and rebirth, because it is only good for feeding maggots.

What I understand from all of this is that all these characters connected to the moon seem to have a common goal and that is either to destroy the continent or the entire world, in order to cause the cycle to end. And Selina with her incredible power is going to be the character that initiates this destruction.
 
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What four sex scenes, You either rape Val in the forest (1) or don't if you did you can rape her after her trial (2), now you either came inside her and got her pregnancy route or you didn't if you didn't she switches to her good route her reunion has no sex.
Complete drama queen pretending she has scenes left and right
REALLY :HideThePain:
 
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Honesty, why do the intimate scenes with a main character like Elin feel so garbage, while a side character like Valerie gets multiple new scenes? Is the main love interest being switched, or is Elin not actually the main character?

Let's compare:
Elin: 1 scene and done.
Valerie: 3/4 scenes, plus scene in cart.

The development priorities is very questionable.
This always happens when devs allow patrons to vote on scenes, story and logical prioritization gets ignored in favor of fan fav of the hour. Important characters like your twin ELin, whom you spent 90% of last season chasing, get one single scene, then half a benny hill scene this update. While throw away side characters like Valeria gets tons of scene. Mother another important character , but she gets more than her fair share of scenes almost one at every update, at the expense of other important character like your wife, or characters who have been with you from the very beginning "Elaina" but got no scene.

It is bad enough the Lazymonkey teased a Val scene in the update before this one, and we got nothing. Just a camo appearance both for both paths "forced and non forced" just to make way for annother mother scene.

It is getting absolutely stupid at this point and in my estimation down the line it will destroy this VN.

It is the reason why I avoid Incest games, specifically incest games where patrons have voting power. It becomes just one character scenes on repeat.
 

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I think you're a little confused here big man.

This is Val. The Elf thief that you meet early on in the game. And can have a couple of different types of relationship with, Rape, Murdered or Not.
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This is Valeria. The Human nobles wife from the west. That you can fuck on your first visit, and then again if you don't kill her son. AND THEN AGAIN when she visits the capital twice.
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Different people chum.
Val and Valerie is different girl.
Val = Elf
Valerie= Human lords wife.
Oh yeah, fully agree, Valerie just showed up and suddenly had a lot of scenes, despite not really being all that important. To be honest I forgot both of their names a couple of updates ago (If you care to search the thread you can see me asking "Whatever happened to the Elf prisoner girl" before the reunion scene").
It's insane how many scenes Valerie got, I guess the Dev just really wanted to do Cheating Wife content
 

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It is bad enough the Lazymonkey teased a Val scene in the update before this one, and we got nothing. Just a camo appearance both for both paths "forced and non forced" just to make way for annother mother scene.
Oh don't forget that 'forced' players that didn't impregnate her get railroaded to 'non-forced' because he didn't make 'forced (no pregnancy)' content
 

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Oh yeah, fully agree, Valerie just showed up and suddenly had a lot of scenes, despite not really being all that important. To be honest I forgot both of their names a couple of updates ago (If you care to search the thread you can see me asking "Whatever happened to the Elf prisoner girl" before the reunion scene").
It's insane how many scenes Valerie got, I guess the Dev just really wanted to do Cheating Wife content
Oh I'm just letting you know that you had two people mixed. I'm not one of the people complaining about her getting more scenes...

I fucking love Valeria. :love::love::love:

She's a top tier MILF, that I hope I can make an official mistress at some point. One baby in her is not enough. I need to see Elis give her at least 5 children minimum. (y)
 

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Oh yeah, fully agree, Valerie just showed up and suddenly had a lot of scenes, despite not really being all that important. To be honest I forgot both of their names a couple of updates ago (If you care to search the thread you can see me asking "Whatever happened to the Elf prisoner girl" before the reunion scene").
It's insane how many scenes Valerie got, I guess the Dev just really wanted to do Cheating Wife content
basicly she winning poll on patreon thats why she got really good scene but for exchange all the main li getting trash sex scene. is not just in here people talking about how Elin basicly getting ignore by dev. On discord people always talk about it.
 

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Oh I'm just letting you know that you had two people mixed. I'm not one of the people complaining about her getting more scenes...

I fucking love Valeria. :love::love::love:

She's a top tier MILF, that I hope I can make an official mistress at some point. One baby in her is not enough. I need to see Elis give her at least 5 children minimum. (y)
i like valerie to but imo this is to much favouritsm by dev. not good give priority for one char but trashing others.
 

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This always happens when devs allow patrons to vote on scenes, story and logical prioritization gets ignored in favor of fan fav of the hour. Important characters like your twin ELin, whom you spent 90% of last season chasing, get one single scene, then half a benny hill scene this update. While throw away side characters like Valeria gets tons of scene. Mother another important character , but she gets more than her fair share of scenes almost one at every update, at the expense of other important character like your wife, or characters who have been with you from the very beginning "Elaina" but got no scene.

It is bad enough the Lazymonkey teased a Val scene in the update before this one, and we got nothing. Just a camo appearance both for both paths "forced and non forced" just to make way for annother mother scene.

It is getting absolutely stupid at this point and in my estimation down the line it will destroy this VN.

It is the reason why I avoid Incest games, specifically incest games where patrons have voting power. It becomes just one character scenes on repeat.
I agree with your point. It's not good that his Patreon now basically dictates which character gets scenes. Incest games always fall into the same trap.
 

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i like valerie to but imo this is to much favouritsm by dev. not good give priority for one char but trashing others.
Is she really getting prioritised though? She's getting more than some of course. But she's still a secondary LI in the grand scheme of things, and I don't imagine we'll be seeing much more of her anytime soon now with how it ended. She's had her little visit to the Capital, got some more fun with Elis, and is now going to go home and stay there to keep baking that bun in her oven for us.

Plenty of time now for others to get their share.
 
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Never used the MultiMod, nor any mods for this game. Saves always loaded fine since the beginning (been updating regularly) this the FIRST time the saves broke for me. Anyone else?
Same for me; after trying various methods the only thing that worked for me was downloading Update on main page and applying it to the prev. compressed version from a few months ago
 
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Considering that she contacted us from Elin's womb, that's putting it mildly. :ROFLMAO:
It's very reminisce of Malice from Ravager, if you ever played that game. Only difference is Malice legit kills other versions of herself/siblings while she's still in the womb. She also "rapes" her papa in his dream. This while not even being born yet.

Funny enough, she was also a calamity for the world and gods. Considered an abomination.
 
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