n00bPanda

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Anyone know more AVN games like this one?
SnowStorm maybe. Strong maybe tho. Characters are interesting enough to keep you interested in them, genre wise its semi-fantasy as it takes place in some scandavanian village in middle ages but there is magic and time travelling. Also there are three main branch you can progress the game like in this game.
 

Belphegor

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This might be one of the few (if there are any other) incest games that have tantalizing LI options outside "keeping it in the family".
I mean Imperial is more a smut game with incest in it than truly an "incest game", no?

As for the "if there are any other", I'd say Desert Stalker.
 

MikesDK

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Well i liked it up to the forced marrige, guessing you cant avoid picking one due to MC being to submissive? truely wish he had more backbone and would stand up to the king more and refuse that shit like the sister did.

I dident want any of the two options since i dident see them as queen quality like the sisters are, also a bit pissed your forced to fuck the forced LI which makes MC feels submissive yet again....he shoudl be more like the sister who would refuse any sex with her forced husbond and just let it stay as a political marrige thing.

I tried giving the ring to the sister but that dident change anything.
 

Belphegor

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Well i liked it up to the forced marrige, guessing you cant avoid picking one due to MC being to submissive? truely wish he had more backbone and would stand up to the king more and refuse that shit like the sister did.
ffs, having a political mariage in a medieval fantasy setting is not "being submissive", it's doing your normal duty. Trying to go against it would just be immature and a political loss. Kinda feel like to you story/game that isn't a complete power fantasy would qualify as "submissive mc".
 

MikesDK

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ffs, having a political mariage in a medieval fantasy setting is not "being submissive", it's doing your normal duty. Trying to go against it would just be immature and a political loss. Kinda feel like to you story/game that isn't a complete power fantasy would qualify as "submissive mc".
It is being submissive to follow whatever the king tells him to, even after all the shit the king put him through and the only reason he took MC back was to force him to marry, even hes sister dident do that, she stod up for her self saying she dident want it and she wouldent let the dude have sex with her and so on, MC on the other hand just follows along like a pet dog.
Also putting in forced sex scenes is never good for a game that was based on choices either, the option to refuse her in bed should be there it wouldent change a thing political wise.
 

Marvoch

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It is being submissive to follow whatever the king tells him to, even after all the shit the king put him through and the only reason he took MC back was to force him to marry, even hes sister dident do that, she stod up for her self saying she dident want it and she wouldent let the dude have sex with her and so on, MC on the other hand just follows along like a pet dog.
Also putting in forced sex scenes is never good for a game that was based on choices either, the option to refuse her in bed should be there it wouldent change a thing political wise.
It's like saying that getting an income in our society is "being submissive" because you are respecting the social expectations put on you. A noble was expected to marry into nobility for the stability of his house. And no, consummating the marriage on the first night was another obligation. Not doing so would null the marriage in some cases and generally would result in offending the family of the bride/groom.

That being said, there could have been drama surrounding this decision? Absolutely, as we can see with the sister. Was it a necessity? No. He knew all his life that this would happen.
 

MikesDK

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It's like saying that getting an income in our society is "being submissive" because you are respecting the social expectations put on you. A noble was expected to marry into nobility for the stability of his house. And no, consummating the marriage on the first night was another obligation. Not doing so would null the marriage in some cases and generally would result in offending the family of the bride/groom.

That being said, there could have been drama surrounding this decision? Absolutely, as we can see with the sister. Was it a necessity? No. He knew all his life that this would happen.
Problem is this is not the real world and forced LIs/Sex can kill a game for alot of players its a stupid move.

And from what your saying your also expecting the sister to have sex with her forced husbond which would leads to game becoming an NTR game and if you say no she wont do that then why shouldent MC be able to say no? its not marrige for love its purely for an alliance theres no need for it to ever be sexual unless they both want it and considering both are forced into it theres a pretty huge chance one of them dont so theres no need to have sex on the wedding night and it sure as hell isent an obligation for them to have sex in a pure political marrige, its like saying if you got a friend being kicked out of the country and you marry her so she can stay then theres an obligation to consummating the marriage? lol no mate.

And you cant be serious that you dont see it as MC being submissive to the king, he sends MC away from hes family that results in MC becoming a drunk with no hope of seeing hes sisters again, then the king summons him and tells him marry this bitch and MC says nothing but just follow hes orders like a pet dog, how the hell is that not submissive.
 
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GONEPOLICE

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So basically, you want a game to conform to your own fantasy. If that is the case, then most pop media won't exist, or most medieval settings wouldn't be shown properly, which is not fun because, like all good stories, there should be conflict.

You are annoyed that you don't have control of every facet of everyone's life or story. Sorry to say, but that is not how it is.

If you want a cheap story where you don't want to feel insecure, that is your thing, sadly.

In regards to the husband scene with your sister. I won't spoil the scene or story, but you can prevent the consummation. There is an option for that.

Half the comment doesn't make sense. You do know you can choose the narrative. There are abundant choices in this game compared to others. That is what is unique. I don't understand your issues saying ' MC being submissive to the king' when you can literally show rebellion in minor ways, which will funnel it to the major plot.

It seems you just want a harem simulator and get annoyed that you have no control as a whole.
 
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Pervy Hermit

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Problem is this is not the real world and forced LIs/Sex can kill a game for alot of players its a stupid move.

And from what your saying your also expecting the sister to have sex with her forced husbond which would leads to game becoming an NTR game and if you say no she wont do that then why shouldent MC be able to say no? its not marrige for love its purely for an alliance theres no need for it to ever be sexual unless they both want it and considering both are forced into it theres a pretty huge chance one of them dont so theres no need to have sex on the wedding night and it sure as hell isent an obligation for them to have sex in a pure political marrige, its like saying if you got a friend being kicked out of the country and you marry her so she can stay then theres an obligation to consummating the marriage? lol no mate.

And you cant be serious that you dont see it as MC being submissive to the king, he sends MC away from hes family that results in MC becoming a drunk with no hope of seeing hes sisters again, then the king summons him and tells him marry this bitch and MC says nothing but just follow hes orders like a pet dog, how the hell is that not submissive.
Your weird obession with the word "submissive" and your lack of understanding in basic medieval rules is rather concerning, considering that you play a game with a mediveal setting. Yes, games don't need nor should follow RL logic (all the time), but if the author decides to apply some real rules to their setting, complaining about them doesn't really help your case.

And no, MCs screwing his bride is not submissive. He checked them out and/or spent time with one of them beforehand. It's not like he hated the two girls, and he was quite proactive in getting the deed started. And not in a "let's just get this over with so that I can spend time with someone I actually care for" way.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Personally, I still don't get the hatred for the King. He pretty much hasn't done anything too seriously to MC to warrant such hate. Hell, I don't even see any real reason to shake the boat too much with MC's position as secured as it is. He's the only male heir of the King. Not to mention, why would I fuck up my peaceful path to being King for minor stuff?

Exile? Wasn't even the King's idea. That was Alaina as can be seen from her memories. Some might say he still agreed to it, but the suggestion wasn't even his own. If you're going to blame the King for that, you might as well blame Alaina and Queen Mommy too. Not to mention, even MC himself doesn't hate his father for it.

Not being crowned heir? That's potentially MC fault for listening to Cass too much and rebelling against his father just because his outcast sister told him to. Otherwise, MC will always sit on the throne unless he does something foolish.

"Forced" Marriage? I guess? But when MC reaches the throne, he can fix that on his own. Assuming he didn't blindly follow Cass of course. It's not like the story has MC showing hatred for getting married. He already knew and expected it to happen since he was young. It's also not like MC can't have multiple wives/consorts. When he becomes King, he can alter the rules himself.

Elin Marriage? Same as above. Can be fixed by MC when he's on the throne. Hell, it can be fixed multiple ways in this very update. Or when her husband dies. Either by natural causes or a "tragic" accident.

Because of the above, I'm pretty much neutral on the King. Until he does something that truly deserves my hatred, it comes off as being unjustified to me. Another thing that people tend to forget is MC is half elf. While he won't live as long as his mom and other full elves, he and his half elf sisters will outlive every other currently living human. So whether it be his current wife passing away from old age or the plotting old heads croaking. They're all on extremely finite time compared to him. This includes the King and even Cass.

So it's pretty bizarre to want MC to basically self sabotage himself when he can correct most of his "issues" now and in the near future. At least with Cass, she has a legitimate reason to hate her father and a short lifespan.
 
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