VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.7] [Lazy Monkey]

[Filipis]

Agree with you very much. The scene with the Queen in the last update was supposed to be a sort of culmination of all their previous encounters, where Elis' lust overstepped her bounds.

I would much rather have had no scenes with her in this update. Instead it would be better to have some intense dialogue where she makes him realize what he did was not okay, at the same time being torn or confused by her own feelings. That to me would have been much better than 2 random commoner sex scenes.

Some people here have been saying that the queen relationship progression has not been good, but I'd disagree. The very nature of the relationship means that the it will be different from a classic love story. It has to ebb and flow, back and forth, with guilt, lust and love.

Exactly. I’d rather have no lewd scenes of any kind, if it meant we got more conversations between MC and the Queen Mother, talking about their “relationship”, the insanity & danger of pursuing it, and the ramifications of letting lust consume them. For all the talk about storytelling in this VN, surprisingly, the least amount is dedicated to MC talking about wanting to wed his sister/mother, and how the populace and the nobles might react to such relationships. Elin is in the “easiest” position to bear MC’s children without anyone wiser (since her children looking like elves can easily be explained away). Meanwhile, the Queen Mother getting pregnant is sure to raise suspicions. That’s what needs to be discussed more, not giving us more opportunities to make bastard children with commoners.

 

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Exactly. I’d rather have no lewd scenes of any kind, if it meant we got more conversations between MC and the Queen Mother, talking about their “relationship”, the insanity & danger of pursuing it, and the ramifications of letting lust consume them. For all the talk about storytelling in this VN, surprisingly, the least amount is dedicated to MC talking about wanting to wed his sister/mother, and how the populace and the nobles might react to such relationships. Elin is in the “easiest” position to bear MC’s children without anyone wiser (since her children looking like elves can easily be explained away). Meanwhile, the Queen Mother getting pregnant is sure to raise suspicions. That’s what needs to be discussed more, not giving us more opportunities to make bastard children with commoners.

I don't know if you've played the dev's previous game Monkey Business, but there was the exact situation about the ramifications of a relationship b/w mother and son in the form of a therapy session. It was an excellent scene with realistic dialogue and characters exploring the consequences of their actions, something I've never seen in adult games. This is what set this dev apart for me.

We had a scene about nobles reacting to the queen mother and elis, with the princess ring, where she was extremely angry with him after. I thought the dev would explore this further, as they also had a mummers farce (kind of goofy, but still very much suited to the setting) about the prince sucking on the mother's tits, meaning the commoners do joke about this maybe being a reality.

The dev seems to be leaning towards creating diverse routes instead. It's not bad, but since the queen mother relationship is present in all routes, it would be great if it's given more care and attention. The scene in the last update was VERY good imo. I was a bit surprised that she let him fuck, but as I expected she pushed him away hard and then wringed him. It put them right back into the mother son dynamic.

I hope that you see this thread Lazy_Monkey , because this would make this game even better than Monkey Business, and possibly the greatest of all time for me.