VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.9.1] [Lazy Monkey]

[Zakharova]

Does it really matter if MCs dozen concubines aren't allowed to be his official wives (says who, who is telling the king what to do)? What's practically the difference if Aurora or Elin or Seraphina or Iris or whatever is the official queen? MC can fuck everyone else all the same and he doesn't care about heirs, since they only come around once he is dead. Except for like Dom Cass or Iris, none of the girls would dare to question MC and tell him what to do.

In fact, a king does not have that much freedom, and if we take into account that this game is set in the medieval period (to a certain extent, of course), it is necessary to analyze that a king only remains in power if he manages to please his army and his people.

Taking another historical reference, the list of emperors assassinated by the Praetorian Guard is quite extensive, and this happened, in some cases, because certain leaders simply did what they wanted without taking into account the opinions of others.

So if the dev takes these aspects into account in order to make his game more believable, then I think that simply "doing whatever you want and screwing everyone over" will generate consequences at some point in the plot.

 

[Gicoo]

In fact, a king does not have that much freedom, and if we take into account that this game is set in the medieval period (to a certain extent, of course), it is necessary to analyze that a king only remains in power if he manages to please his army and his people.

Taking another historical reference, the list of emperors assassinated by the Praetorian Guard is quite extensive, and this happened, in some cases, because certain leaders simply did what they wanted without taking into account the opinions of others.

So if the dev takes these aspects into account in order to make his game more believable, then I think that simply "doing whatever you want and screwing everyone over" will generate consequences at some point in the plot.

Considering the premise of the game and what we already got, we can safely assess that the dev does not take harsh RL politics in account regarding the MC (everyone else can die, true enough).

MC can't get hurt, he can barely lose girls (unless he explicitly decides to do so), everyone around him solves his problems, every opposition is practically only there to make him succeed and overpower them. The conflicts and scary preomonitions in this game exist to scare the player into (falsely) believing that MC can and will fail, when instead he overcomes everyone of them just by marching through the plot.

Were there any bad long lasting consequences for Mc? No. Were there early Game Overs? No. Were there drastic branches that lead to a significant unhappier Mc? No.

I like the game for what it is, but I'm not fooled into believing that it gives MC a difficult time and that he will ever truly struggle to maintain his power or fail to get the woman he wants. The game until now was just too easy for that -> power fantasy.

 

[FalconLover420]

Considering the premise of the game and what we already got, we can safely assess that the dev does not take harsh RL politics in account regarding the MC (everyone else can die, true enough).

MC can't get hurt, he can barely lose girls (unless he explicitly decides to do so), everyone around him solves his problems, every opposition is practically only there to make him succeed and overpower them. The conflicts and scary preomonitions in this game exist to scare the player into (falsely) believing that MC can and will fail, when instead he overcomes everyone of them just by marching through the plot.

Were there any bad long lasting consequences for Mc? No. Were there early Game Overs? No. Were there drastic branches that lead to a significant unhappier Mc? No.

I like the game for what it is, but I'm not fooled into believing that it gives MC a difficult time and that he will ever truly struggle to maintain his power or fail to get the woman he wants. The game until now was just too easy for that -> power fantasy.

I mean its up to LM on what he wants to do. Because he does have a consequence brewing if you executed cass or have isis poison cass for you, its pretty dark. This doesn't take into account if you took the val dark path and also did the dark path of elin. Speaking of Elin, you do lose her path if you decide to not intervene .

What I am trying to say is instead of going for everyone maybe its better to just settle on making them unofficial secondary spouses or concubines away from public eye for obvious reasons. This also gets in line with isis who said that she will murder ANY of your other children should they try to contest her children's throne.

Plus like the post above yours, the power derived from loyalty of the vassals and sometimes that loyalty is questionable that many kings had to appease other powerful vassals to help them. This explains Cass's motive in the green path to make the western nobility vassals focus on the war in the west and have a respected, loyal regent who approves of the war back at the capital.

 

[storm1051787]

Buddy, this is a fantasy world we are talking about.

I don't see hoow this is relevant to anything I've said which is essentially that none of the other characters want to be secondary wives. The red emperor route I've already said it's not going to Happen there because Isis already established she wont tolerate it and I doubt Aurora will either for that matter. You can't just ignore the opinions and actions of the other characters. One of the reason why I keep saying mc isn't going to marry Cass for example is because rght now she seems like she doesn't want to marry the mc or get married at all

Does it really matter if MCs dozen concubines aren't allowed to be his official wives (says who, who is telling the king what to do)? What's practically the difference if Aurora or Elin or Seraphina or Iris or whatever is the official queen? MC can fuck everyone else all the same and he doesn't care about heirs, since they only come around once he is dead. Except for like Dom Cass or Iris, none of the girls would dare to question MC and tell him what to do.

I mean that's essentially what I was saying. That everyone else is more likely to be concubines and mistresses and that making them wives is out of character for almost everyone involved ad would generate negatie conquences as well. There's no reason to suggest Mc will marry them other than the logic of the mc going "screw it I'll d whatever I want" when the game already establishes that the mc's actions have conquences. Despite what people in the comments are saying it's not a power fantasy. The actions of the other characters are stll relevant

 

[Zakharova]

The game until now was just too easy for that -> power fantasy.

Not for me at least; I'm on the path to the green crown, and at least so far, not every aspect of my gameplay has been a power trip.

And I think that's a good thing, because in this game there are challenges for our protagonist, this shit isn't desert stalker where it seems like god chose our character to be a hottie who gets all the women without any immersion.

Fuck these fucking people, these fucking insecure users who can't see another dick without crying in the fetal position

 

[Gicoo]

Not for me at least; I'm on the path to the green crown, and at least so far, not every aspect of my gameplay has been a power trip.

And I think that's a good thing, because in this game there are challenges for our protagonist, this shit isn't desert stalker where it seems like god chose our character to be a hottie who gets all the women without any immersion.

Fuck these fucking people, these fucking insecure users who can't see another dick without crying in the fetal position

But thats precisely what this game is. Is any man other than MC getting any pussy? No, they all get cucked by MC.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Not for me at least; I'm on the path to the green crown, and at least so far, not every aspect of my gameplay has been a power trip.

And I think that's a good thing, because in this game there are challenges for our protagonist, this shit isn't desert stalker where it seems like god chose our character to be a hottie who gets all the women without any immersion.

Fuck these fucking people, these fucking insecure users who can't see another dick without crying in the fetal position

Do you have any idea what game you're playing? You're on this pointless rant while playing the exact same shit you purport to hate.

This game is a pure power fantasy. You play a chad king who fucks everyone he wants. What are you even on about??

Entertainment is mostly escapism, the fact that porn VNs play to people's fantasies of what they can't have irl isn't rocket science.
Pretending it's anything but that to insult others is in itself insecurity lol.

 

[Zakharova]

Do you have any idea what game you're playing? You're on this pointless rant while playing the exact same shit you purport to hate.

This game is a pure power fantasy. You play a chad king who fucks everyone he wants. What are you even on about??

Entertainment is mostly escapism, the fact that porn VNs play to people's fantasies of what they can't have irl isn't rocket science.
Pretending it's anything but that to insult others is in itself insecurity lol.

 

[DontBeAfraidKid]

But thats precisely what this game is. Is any man other than MC getting any pussy? No, they all get cucked by MC.

that is how it should be tho, otherwise the game would go into NTR category and LM probably does not want to do neither I would like if this game go into NTR category in future.

 

[Craudiao]

But thats precisely what this game is. Is any man other than MC getting any pussy? No, they all get cucked by MC.

Isis's daughter disagrees with you...

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[Filipis]

I mean its up to LM on what he wants to do. Because he does have a consequence brewing if you executed cass or have isis poison cass for you, its pretty dark. This doesn't take into account if you took the val dark path and also did the dark path of elin. Speaking of Elin, you do lose her path if you decide to not intervene .

What I am trying to say is instead of going for everyone maybe its better to just settle on making them unofficial secondary spouses or concubines away from public eye for obvious reasons. This also gets in line with isis who said that she will murder ANY of your other children should they try to contest her children's throne.

Plus like the post above yours, the power derived from loyalty of the vassals and sometimes that loyalty is questionable that many kings had to appease other powerful vassals to help them. This explains Cass's motive in the green path to make the western nobility vassals focus on the war in the west and have a respected, loyal regent who approves of the war back at the capital.

Speaking of that consequence of killing Cass... *insert we're-waiting.gif*. Hopefully, I won't have to wait until Chapter 3 to see those consequences...

And yes, I agree that it would make more sense if MC simply kept his sisters & Seraphina as concubines that would birth his bastards instead of trying to marry them (and inviting a world of hell into his life as king).

However, as this is a fantasy game, I fully expect the MC to be able to make either Elin, Lia, Cass, or Seraphina his official Queen. I don't think LM is planning anything less than - no matter how much we may believe that IC is telling a dark story, the truth of the matter is that IC is still a "power" fantasy in the end.

 

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30% done already, we can expect a release in early or mid July.

 

[DevinHesi]

20% of version 1.0 renders are ready. 22/05

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[SARBASST]

Cant wait

 

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Ahh, here's MC showing exactly where their child will be nestled for about 9 months in the near future!

Good guy, MC, always looking out for the welfare of his children!

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Speaking of that consequence of killing Cass... *insert we're-waiting.gif*. Hopefully, I won't have to wait until Chapter 3 to see those consequences...

As someone who recently played through a large portion of the game's paths. I'm going to just say it. I honestly don't think Cass is definitively one of the three snakes like people thought and I don't think there will be consequences for killing her like people expect.

This isn't a new feeling I've had, mind you. But going through the updates, off route Cass importance plummeted drastically. Whether she's imprisoned or killed. Which makes me think she was just a facade/shadow for the real snake out there or got replaced. If she was ever actually one, after all. And the fact that she gets no mention at all once she's killed off says it all.

It's to the point where the fortune teller that told him about the three snakes in the first place ignores that Cass is already dead. So I don't think there will be major consequences for killing Cass. The game doesn't support such a thought in it's current state. If anything, I would say killing Cass shows that the three snakes might not be set in stone like originally thought. That even if she was one, she's replaced once she's killed. It's to the point that Elin has more verbal consequences for impregnating her by the cat than Cass getting killed.

This is just my current view though. If the game keeps casually ignoring that she's dead then I don't think it'll have any effect in the future.

 

[New Kid]

As someone who recently played through a large portion of the game's paths. I'm going to just say it. I honestly don't think Cass is definitively one of the three snakes like people thought and I don't think there will be consequences for killing her like people expect.

This isn't a new feeling I've had, mind you. But going through the updates, off route Cass importance plummeted drastically. Whether she's imprisoned or killed. Which makes me think she was just a facade/shadow for the real snake out there or got replaced. If she was ever actually one, after all. And the fact that she gets no mention at all once she's killed off says it all.

It's to the point where the fortune teller that told him about the three snakes in the first place ignores that Cass is already dead. So I don't think there will be major consequences for killing Cass. The game doesn't support such a thought in it's current state. If anything, I would say killing Cass shows that the three snakes might not be set in stone like originally thought. That even if she was one, she's replaced once she's killed. It's to the point that Elin has more verbal consequences for impregnating her by the cat than Cass getting killed.

This is just my current view though. If the game keeps casually ignoring that she's dead then I don't think it'll have any effect in the future.

Didn't the reflection lady already confirm that Cass is one of the snakes? She has very different dialogue depending if you kill Cass or not, and kinda of confirms that the mother is another one too.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Didn't the reflection lady already confirm that Cass is one of the snakes? She has very different dialogue depending if you kill Cass or not, and kinda of confirms that the mother is another one too.

No, at least when you kill Cass. She doesn't mention her at all. She only talks about Elin in reference to Elis being the "True Seed". And only tells him how much shit he's about to cause by getting her pregnant, if you fuck her. Unless you're referring to another scene on a different path.

The lady you meet at the beginning who tells you about the three snakes is the cat that shows up later. That's why I'm thinking Cass can either be replaced or wasn't the true snake. Because if killing her doesn't get a response out of the entity who told him about said thing in the first place. Cass couldn't be one.

 

[FalconLover420]

No, at least when you kill Cass. She doesn't mention her at all. She only talks about Elin in reference to Elis being the "True Seed". And only tells him how much shit he's about to cause by getting her pregnant, if you fuck her. Unless you're referring to another scene on a different path.

The lady you meet at the beginning who tells you about the three snakes is the cat that shows up later. That's why I'm thinking Cass can either be replaced or wasn't the true snake. Because if killing her doesn't get a response out of the entity who told him about said thing in the first place. Cass couldn't be one.

There is a tag that is suppose to run during the scene with the cat where cass is dead, she either mentions it or not.
But either way the thing about the snakes is The mother, Cass and Alaina.

Or it could be the whole thing with the vision that has Ophelia, Cass and Elin as the three snakes.
Personally confused with the whole snake ordeal but for sure, Seraphina is one of them.