VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v1.0] [Lazy Monkey]

[DevinHesi]

20% of version 1.0 renders are ready. 22/05

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[SARBASST]

Cant wait

 

[dkatryl]

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Ahh, here's MC showing exactly where their child will be nestled for about 9 months in the near future!

Good guy, MC, always looking out for the welfare of his children!

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Speaking of that consequence of killing Cass... *insert we're-waiting.gif*. Hopefully, I won't have to wait until Chapter 3 to see those consequences...

As someone who recently played through a large portion of the game's paths. I'm going to just say it. I honestly don't think Cass is definitively one of the three snakes like people thought and I don't think there will be consequences for killing her like people expect.

This isn't a new feeling I've had, mind you. But going through the updates, off route Cass importance plummeted drastically. Whether she's imprisoned or killed. Which makes me think she was just a facade/shadow for the real snake out there or got replaced. If she was ever actually one, after all. And the fact that she gets no mention at all once she's killed off says it all.

It's to the point where the fortune teller that told him about the three snakes in the first place ignores that Cass is already dead. So I don't think there will be major consequences for killing Cass. The game doesn't support such a thought in it's current state. If anything, I would say killing Cass shows that the three snakes might not be set in stone like originally thought. That even if she was one, she's replaced once she's killed. It's to the point that Elin has more verbal consequences for impregnating her by the cat than Cass getting killed.

This is just my current view though. If the game keeps casually ignoring that she's dead then I don't think it'll have any effect in the future.

 

[New Kid]

As someone who recently played through a large portion of the game's paths. I'm going to just say it. I honestly don't think Cass is definitively one of the three snakes like people thought and I don't think there will be consequences for killing her like people expect.

This isn't a new feeling I've had, mind you. But going through the updates, off route Cass importance plummeted drastically. Whether she's imprisoned or killed. Which makes me think she was just a facade/shadow for the real snake out there or got replaced. If she was ever actually one, after all. And the fact that she gets no mention at all once she's killed off says it all.

It's to the point where the fortune teller that told him about the three snakes in the first place ignores that Cass is already dead. So I don't think there will be major consequences for killing Cass. The game doesn't support such a thought in it's current state. If anything, I would say killing Cass shows that the three snakes might not be set in stone like originally thought. That even if she was one, she's replaced once she's killed. It's to the point that Elin has more verbal consequences for impregnating her by the cat than Cass getting killed.

This is just my current view though. If the game keeps casually ignoring that she's dead then I don't think it'll have any effect in the future.

Didn't the reflection lady already confirm that Cass is one of the snakes? She has very different dialogue depending if you kill Cass or not, and kinda of confirms that the mother is another one too.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Didn't the reflection lady already confirm that Cass is one of the snakes? She has very different dialogue depending if you kill Cass or not, and kinda of confirms that the mother is another one too.

No, at least when you kill Cass. She doesn't mention her at all. She only talks about Elin in reference to Elis being the "True Seed". And only tells him how much shit he's about to cause by getting her pregnant, if you fuck her. Unless you're referring to another scene on a different path.

The lady you meet at the beginning who tells you about the three snakes is the cat that shows up later. That's why I'm thinking Cass can either be replaced or wasn't the true snake. Because if killing her doesn't get a response out of the entity who told him about said thing in the first place. Cass couldn't be one.

 

[FalconLover420]

No, at least when you kill Cass. She doesn't mention her at all. She only talks about Elin in reference to Elis being the "True Seed". And only tells him how much shit he's about to cause by getting her pregnant, if you fuck her. Unless you're referring to another scene on a different path.

The lady you meet at the beginning who tells you about the three snakes is the cat that shows up later. That's why I'm thinking Cass can either be replaced or wasn't the true snake. Because if killing her doesn't get a response out of the entity who told him about said thing in the first place. Cass couldn't be one.

There is a tag that is suppose to run during the scene with the cat where cass is dead, she either mentions it or not.
But either way the thing about the snakes is The mother, Cass and Alaina.

Or it could be the whole thing with the vision that has Ophelia, Cass and Elin as the three snakes.
Personally confused with the whole snake ordeal but for sure, Seraphina is one of them.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

There is a tag that is suppose to run during the scene with the cat where cass is dead, she either mentions it or not.
But either way the thing about the snakes is The mother, Cass and Alaina.

Or it could be the whole thing with the vision that has Ophelia, Cass and Elin as the three snakes.
Personally confused with the whole snake ordeal but for sure, Seraphina is one of them.

Didn't seem to happen on my playthrough with the cat. Cass is never mentioned. Regardless if she's alive or dead. I'll try to reinstall v0.9.1 later and see if that's the problem. Because otherwise, the cat just only bothers talking about Elin being pregnant or if MC is a true seed or not.

To add to the confusion a bit. There's also Isis whole white blood thing at the inn that hints that she's a snake too.

 

[FalconLover420]

Didn't seem to happen on my playthrough with the cat. Cass is never mentioned. Regardless if she's alive or dead. I'll try to reinstall v0.9.1 later and see if that's the problem. Because otherwise, the cat just only bothers talking about Elin being pregnant or if MC is a true seed or not.

To add to the confusion a bit. There's also Isis whole white blood thing at the inn that hints that she's a snake too.

Yeah the URM checks for cass's death in the cat scene.

Everyone is a snake a this point LOL
This is an MC with little ruling experience and little connections aside from his family who is also shown to be scheming. Even Aker, the "friend" betrays you in the cass coup and Alaina, your teacher is shown to be conspiring against your rule by whispering stuff to cass and maybe have a chance to set her free if captured or if sided with Cass, conspires with conrad about your rule if you turn out to be a dictator or die in a tragic accident.

 

[Filipis]

As someone who recently played through a large portion of the game's paths. I'm going to just say it. I honestly don't think Cass is definitively one of the three snakes like people thought and I don't think there will be consequences for killing her like people expect.

This isn't a new feeling I've had, mind you. But going through the updates, off route Cass importance plummeted drastically. Whether she's imprisoned or killed. Which makes me think she was just a facade/shadow for the real snake out there or got replaced. If she was ever actually one, after all. And the fact that she gets no mention at all once she's killed off says it all.

It's to the point where the fortune teller that told him about the three snakes in the first place ignores that Cass is already dead. So I don't think there will be major consequences for killing Cass. The game doesn't support such a thought in it's current state. If anything, I would say killing Cass shows that the three snakes might not be set in stone like originally thought. That even if she was one, she's replaced once she's killed. It's to the point that Elin has more verbal consequences for impregnating her by the cat than Cass getting killed.

This is just my current view though. If the game keeps casually ignoring that she's dead then I don't think it'll have any effect in the future.

Thing is, due to LM's "style" shall we call it, I can't be 100% sure that Cass' death is not important (even if he does ignore it in the last 3 updates) just because nothing has come of it yet. Though I am inclined to agree with you, simply because of the Queen sex scene that also went nowhere, and hasn't been mentioned since (something as huge as having your son penetrating you would surely warrant a talk).

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Yeah the URM checks for cass's death in the cat scene.

Everyone is a snake a this point LOL
This is an MC with little ruling experience and little connections aside from his family who is also shown to be scheming. Even Aker, the "friend" betrays you in the cass coup and Alaina, your teacher is shown to be conspiring against your rule by whispering stuff to cass and maybe have a chance to set her free if captured or if sided with Cass, conspires with conrad about your rule if you turn out to be a dictator or die in a tragic accident.

I swear if next update(s) pulls the whole "Snakes are also reflections of the real snakes out there" I might just kill everyone for the hell of it. If none of the others playthroughs do it, my Isis playthrough is going to find out who's actually the snakes.

Legit went from Cass, Elin and Lia to Seraphina, Alaina and Ludwig when the game was in the earlier parts. Now even the wives are potentially getting tossed in, depending on the one you chose. It can go in almost any combination.

Thing is, due to LM's "style" shall we call it, I can't be 100% sure that Cass' death is not important (even if he does ignore it in the last 3 updates) just because nothing has come of it yet. Though I am inclined to agree with you, simply because of the Queen sex scene that also went nowhere, and hasn't been mentioned since (something as huge as having your son penetrating you would surely warrant a talk).

I have a theory about that and it's based around the reveal from the previous update about her having illusion based powers. You can probably see where I'm going with it. That's the only way you can really explain away that scene. Otherwise, I agree that it's bizarre that Seraphina and Elis never mention or reference it later.

 

[Sherengroth]

i don't like the father, not for the sending the kid away, if the whole Chronos vs Uranus fate was going to happen, then out of safety you should do that, it's better then trying to kill your child. just make sure to set them up good. if they're living a life good enough life with no responsibilities, then they'll probably not care. anyway it's just by the couple of scene's you see him in he doesn't have a loving fatherly or a wise and admirable king expression on his face. just looks pissed, like the mc just punched him in the face. I'm surprised he didn't pull a queen of hearts and yell "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!"

 

[harem.king]

This isn't a new feeling I've had, mind you. But going through the updates, off route Cass importance plummeted drastically. Whether she's imprisoned or killed. Which makes me think she was just a facade/shadow for the real snake out there or got replaced. If she was ever actually one, after all. And the fact that she gets no mention at all once she's killed off says it all.

she always was a puppet of a real faction..

 

[n00bPanda]

Thing is, due to LM's "style" shall we call it, I can't be 100% sure that Cass' death is not important (even if he does ignore it in the last 3 updates) just because nothing has come of it yet. Though I am inclined to agree with you, simply because of the Queen sex scene that also went nowhere, and hasn't been mentioned since (something as huge as having your son penetrating you would surely warrant a talk).

 

[DontBeAfraidKid]

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I was wondering why Aurora is wearing White Underwear in all the scenes lol, need to ask LM on Patreon about this

 

[New Kid]

No, at least when you kill Cass. She doesn't mention her at all. She only talks about Elin in reference to Elis being the "True Seed". And only tells him how much shit he's about to cause by getting her pregnant, if you fuck her. Unless you're referring to another scene on a different path.

The lady you meet at the beginning who tells you about the three snakes is the cat that shows up later. That's why I'm thinking Cass can either be replaced or wasn't the true snake. Because if killing her doesn't get a response out of the entity who told him about said thing in the first place. Cass couldn't be one.

??? I think we are on a different page here, the reflection lady I mentioned isn't the cat from the last update, but the one that ambushes you in the forest on the way to the west, the one that appears after that possessed horse and offers to show past, present or future to you.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

??? I think we are on a different page here, the reflection lady I mentioned isn't the cat from the last update, but the one that ambushes you in the forest on the way to the west, the one that appears after that possessed horse and offers to show past, present or future to you.

Then I'm even more confused by why you think that then. Because that forest scene in particular didn't say Cass is a snake. And I saw this on 3 different routes. Cass Route, Aurora Route (Cass is still alive) and Isis Route where Cass is dead. Maybe I'm just not seeing what you saw or interpreting it differently. But if you killed Cass, the dialogue remained entirely the same. Only the Present day vision the Forest Entity presents is different. And if anything, that change implies that Alaina is the real puppeteer/snake, not Cass. Since she's presented as the center focus.

None of that, at least from what I recall of the dialogue, implied that Cass is a snake. MC is on strings by a puppeteer regardless if Cass is alive or dead. So if that's the dialogue you believe that hinted at Cass being one, I'm just going to tell you that's consistently stated whether she's alive or dead. Now if it's something shown in the code/script, then that's obviously different and I wouldn't ever see that stuff because I don't use URM or check for those things when I play this game.

 

[Alan Dalles]

Then I'm even more confused by why you think that then. Because that forest scene in particular didn't say Cass is a snake. And I saw this on 3 different routes. Cass Route, Aurora Route (Cass is still alive) and Isis Route where Cass is dead. Maybe I'm just not seeing what you saw or interpreting it differently. But if you killed Cass, the dialogue remained entirely the same. Only the Present day vision the Forest Entity presents is different. And if anything, that change implies that Alaina is the real puppeteer/snake, not Cass. Since she's presented as the center focus.

None of that, at least from what I recall of the dialogue, implied that Cass is a snake. MC is on strings by a puppeteer regardless if Cass is alive or dead. So if that's the dialogue you believe that hinted at Cass being one, I'm just going to tell you that's consistently stated whether she's alive or dead. Now if it's something shown in the code/script, then that's obviously different and I wouldn't ever see that stuff because I don't use URM or check for those things when I play this game.

Game's code give us a very interesting results. All 4 variants of her (Cass) death has different values: cass_status = "casscade_dead" or cass_status = "executed" or cass_status = "poisoned" or cass_status = "killed". First two results - white coronation (personal murder or execution after unsuccessful coup), last two results - red coronation (with Isis or Callahan). If you killed Cass for White coronation, replies of moon lady and cat are different compared with the usual: (moon_lady: I’ve been watching you and was glad to see that you’re determined enough. You ended the life of poor Cass / catw: Yes. You listened to me then. Though I’m not certain you understood.) After red coronation replies are usual (snake is alive). Based on this data, I concluded that: 1) Cass is one of three snakes; 2) To fulfill the prophecy MC must killed Cass personally, without someone by his side; 3) After red coronation Cass's place (third snake holds a dagger above the golden crown) goes to Callahan or Isis.

 

[Ayhsel]

Game's code give us a very interesting results. All 4 variants of her (Cass) death has different values: cass_status = "casscade_dead" or cass_status = "executed" or cass_status = "poisoned" or cass_status = "killed". First two results - white coronation (personal murder or execution after unsuccessful coup), last two results - red coronation (with Isis or Callahan). If you killed Cass for White coronation, replies of moon lady and cat are different compared with the usual: (moon_lady: I’ve been watching you and was glad to see that you’re determined enough. You ended the life of poor Cass / catw: Yes. You listened to me then. Though I’m not certain you understood.) After red coronation replies are usual. Based on this data, I concluded that: 1) Cass is one of three snakes; 2) To fulfill the prophecy MC must killed Cass personally, without someone by his side; 3) After red coronation Cass's place (third snake holds a dagger above the golden crown) goes to Callahan or Isis.

Kill Cass?

I would brutally murder any other person in the game if you make me choose between them and Cass.

Cass is best girl!!

PS: Yes I know it has nothing to do with your post.. I just wanted to say it

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Game's code give us a very interesting results. All 4 variants of her (Cass) death has different values: cass_status = "casscade_dead" or cass_status = "executed" or cass_status = "poisoned" or cass_status = "killed". First two results - white coronation (personal murder or execution after unsuccessful coup), last two results - red coronation (with Isis or Callahan). If you killed Cass for White coronation, replies of moon lady and cat are different compared with the usual: (moon_lady: I’ve been watching you and was glad to see that you’re determined enough. You ended the life of poor Cass / catw: Yes. You listened to me then. Though I’m not certain you understood.) After red coronation replies are usual (snake is alive). Based on this data, I concluded that: 1) Cass is one of three snakes; 2) To fulfill the prophecy MC must killed Cass personally, without someone by his side; 3) After red coronation Cass's place (third snake holds a dagger above the golden crown) goes to Callahan or Isis.

So the difference is only shown if MC himself kills Cass and not via indirect cause? Otherwise, her supposed position as a snake remains. Only to get usurped of it if she's killed by someone else, at least when it comes to Isis or Callahan killing her? Well, it seems like I'll have to find my old saves where I killed her to prevent the coup or build it into a 7th Playthrough.