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Craudiao

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The main difference between Cass and Alaina is Cass isn't smart enough to pull off that stuff. Not that it lets Cass off the hook but she might have a future as the MC's pet. Alaina on the other hand, probably too dangerous to let live. A shame really, she has the body to make a nice slave but oh well.
Her "father" trying to get out of a ridiculous marriage and having no consequences, her losing an eye and being the "culprit" of the story, and being left out of the "family" finally made sense now...

Cass is a woman alone in a family that doesn't love her, Alaina has an entire race working for her and a position of "control" from the start...
Considering what one can or cannot do as intelligence doesn't seem to be the "ideal view" of the facts...


Conrad : "Alaina's crazy! She's trying to get me to believe there's a vampire in the castle!"
Meanwhile, the MC :
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I didn't do the vampire route, so in this case it was the first quote in my route, isn't there one where he tells his uncle that he has one protecting him from the shadows to prevent his uncle from "accidentally" getting involved in a duel where the MC would "theoretically" lose one of his allies?
 
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Her "father" trying to get out of a ridiculous marriage and having no consequences, her losing an eye and being the "culprit" of the story, and being left out of the "family" finally made sense now...

Cass is a woman alone in a family that doesn't love her, Alaina has an entire race working for her and a position of "control" from the start...
Considering what one can or cannot do as intelligence doesn't seem to be the "ideal view" of the facts...




I didn't do the vampire route, so in this case it was the first quote in my route, isn't there one where he tells his uncle that he has one protecting him from the shadows to prevent his uncle from "accidentally" getting involved in a duel where the MC would "theoretically" lose one of his allies?
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storm1051787

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I think he simply didn't want to reveal anything too much and said things in a way to simplify things for the MC...
Which could weigh on the MC's side, after all, even "playing" as agreed with her (Alaina), she still "killed him" in the end...
That doesn't make any sense with what he actually said though nor does it actually simplify anything. He still talking in prophecies and very clearly says that Cass is his child otherwise he wouldn't have been worried about her at all. Either we aren't being fed the full truth or LM came up with the twist only after chapter 6 and forgot about the earlier line.
 

Craudiao

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That doesn't make any sense with what he actually said though nor does it actually simplify anything. He still talking in prophecies and very clearly says that Cass is his child otherwise he wouldn't have been worried about her at all. Either we aren't being fed the full truth or LM came up with the twist only after chapter 6 and forgot about the earlier line.
She is the daughter of the Red Emperor's line, and technically, the one true heir to the true king...
They are both descendants of the Red Emperor, but Cass is not his daughter...
I don't see where this goes against the prophecies...
 

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She is the daughter of the Red Emperor's line,
Yes, but she wouldn't be HIS seed which is what he actually says and is what the prophecy was about. It wasn't about his line but about one of his children and he was worried that Cass was that child which doesn't make sense she wasn't his child so again, either he was lying to the mc which doesn't make a ton of sense for that moment since the prophecy would still refer to the mc and there would be no need to mention Cass at all. Aliana and Conrad only revealed a partial truth but not the whole thing, or it's just a discrepancy because LM forgot he said that and that he likely didn't have the twist in mind until we went to the west.
 

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Yes, but she wouldn't be HIS seed which is what he actually says and is what the prophecy was about. It wasn't about his line but about one of his children and he was worried that Cass was that child which doesn't make sense she wasn't his child so again, either he was lying to the mc which doesn't make a ton of sense for that moment since the prophecy would still refer to the mc and there would be no need to mention Cass at all. Aliana and Conrad only reveal told the partial truth but not the whole thing, or it's just a discrepancy because LM forgot he said that and that he likely didn't have the twist in mind until we went to the west.
or the prophecy was not about him, but about the true king, his brother... He had no way of knowing since "nobody" knew about the exchange of roles... and on this specific route, he was the firstborn of both...
 
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or the prophecy was not about him, but about the true king, his brother... He had no way of knowing since "nobody" knew about the exchange of roles... and on this specific route, he was the firstborn of both...
Even if the prophecy wasn't about him or is even completely 100% wrong the point is that Regis THINKS it's about him and that it's about one of HIS children and that he was unsure whether it was Cass or the MC. He got the prophecy right is irrelevant that's why I'm saying it's either a mistake LM missed or we weren't told the truth this chapter. Either that or the real Regis wasn't actually Cass's dad either.
 

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Yes, but she wouldn't be HIS seed which is what he actually says and is what the prophecy was about. It wasn't about his line but about one of his children and he was worried that Cass was that child which doesn't make sense she wasn't his child so again, either he was lying to the mc which doesn't make a ton of sense for that moment since the prophecy would still refer to the mc and there would be no need to mention Cass at all. Aliana and Conrad only revealed a partial truth but not the whole thing, or it's just a discrepancy because LM forgot he said that and that he likely didn't have the twist in mind until we went to the west.
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Even if the prophecy wasn't about him or is even completely 100% wrong the point is that Regis THINKS it's about him and that it's about one of HIS children and that he was unsure whether it was Cass or the MC. He got the prophecy right is irrelevant that's why I'm saying it's either a mistake LM missed or we weren't told the truth this chapter. Either that or the real Regis wasn't actually Cass's dad either.
What prophecy are we talking about right now? Which one?
 

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What prophecy are we talking about right now? Which one?
Side with Cass during the Coup and Regis reveals that one of the prophets told him that the greatest of his children will destroy him and says he was unsure if it was referring to Cass or the Mc. And then he says he now believes that it's referring to both of them, which means he has to be Cass's father.
 

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Side with Cass during the Coup and Regis reveals that one of the prophets told him that the greatest of his children will destroy him and says he was unsure if it was referring to Cass or the Mc. And then he says he now believes that it's referring to both of them, which means he has to be Cass's father.
Thanks, I haven't played 1.0 coup path yet. But don't we learn that 'oracles' were sent by Alaina and then also by Cass too in the new update? Also I kinda remember from the very first updates that Cass was killing oracles instead of sending them, contrary to what Alaina says.
Yea he could be really Cass' father, what Alan Dalles says makes sense tbh. On top of all this I dont think LM would kill of siblingual relationship between Cass and MC, people play for this shit when you think about it.
 

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What happen to the villager family which the MC visit on the journey to the west?

If somehow MC only have sex with the daughter, somehow we get to visit them
But when MC have sex with the mother also, we kinda skip their house

is it because the elven took all of the family member if MC have sex with the daughter and mother?
 
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Her "father" trying to get out of a ridiculous marriage and having no consequences, her losing an eye and being the "culprit" of the story, and being left out of the "family" finally made sense now...

Cass is a woman alone in a family that doesn't love her, Alaina has an entire race working for her and a position of "control" from the start...
Considering what one can or cannot do as intelligence doesn't seem to be the "ideal view" of the facts...
No. I completely, entirely, 1000% reject the victim sob stories. Cass lost her eye because of her own greed...she wanted to use magic to steal the MC's throne, when he had done nothing to her...it was pure, selfish, greedy ambition that cost her the eye. She tried to stab at the MC who retaliated without seeing clearly. She initiated that. And the MC never did anything to Alaina to merit all the scheming she did against him...she set up Cass who was going to let the MC die in prison. Hell my MC, still wants to do right by the elves but not when they are just blood-thirsty bastards who want to return to glory on giant piles of human corpses. Absofuckinglutely not! My MC *WILL* protect his people and his throne...if the elves want to be peaceful then my MC would be happy to give them land, let them build cities and all the rest. But when all they do scheme, plot, and murder then they get nothing.

No human alive during the events of this game is responsible for what happened to the elves...they will *NOT* return to being a civilized society if they want to build it on top of piles of human corpses...I will offer them no sympathy if they want to be like that. They are welcome to be peaceful and my MC will give them lands, rights, and allow them to rebuild. But if they want to be treacherous they *WILL* be punished as criminals and traitors.
 
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Cass lost her eye because of her own greed
Uh, dude, you really should rewatch that scene.

Cass brought the MC into the crypt.
Cass found the dagger.
Cass was having fun and playing around.
The MC grabbed the dagger and cut HIMSELF on the face with it.
The MC got pissy because he cut himself, grabbed his own dagger and stabbed HER in the eye, blinding and disfiguring her.
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How is ANY of that her fault? Aside from being a good big sister and wanting to hang out with the little shit?
 

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Uh, dude, you really should rewatch that scene.

Cass brought the MC into the crypt.
Cass found the dagger.
Cass was having fun and playing around.
The MC grabbed the dagger and cut HIMSELF on the face with it.
The MC got pissy because he cut himself, grabbed his own dagger and stabbed HER in the eye, blinding and disfiguring her.
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How is ANY of that her fault? Aside from being a good big sister and wanting to hang out with the little shit?
No. Cass was absolutely *NOT* "having fun and playing", she believed the dagger in the crypt had destiny altering magic, and was going to try to use it make herself queen. She *believed* that! It was *NOT* fun and games. When the MC tried to stop her she tried to stab him and he retaliated without seeing clearly because she targeted his eye and in a twist of Karma she was the one who ended up losing her eye instead. Don't try to twist this into some garbage nonsense about how oh she was just having fun and the poor innocent flower got stabbed...hell no.
 

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Uh, dude, you really should rewatch that scene.

Cass brought the MC into the crypt.
Cass found the dagger.
Cass was having fun and playing around.
The MC grabbed the dagger and cut HIMSELF on the face with it.
The MC got pissy because he cut himself, grabbed his own dagger and stabbed HER in the eye, blinding and disfiguring her.
View attachment 5062498

How is ANY of that her fault? Aside from being a good big sister and wanting to hang out with the little shit?
reason why i feel bad about her.
 
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