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GarudoSCHE

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Great update. Lazy Monkey continues to please with quick and well written updates. Did I understand correctly that there were no scenes with Catalina (the redhead with the prosthetic) or Elin (not counting the jealousy scene) in this episode?
 
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Great update. Lazy Monkey continues to please with quick and well written updates. Did I understand correctly that there were no scenes with Catalina (the redhead with the prosthetic) or Elin (not counting the jealousy scene) in this episode?
hopefully part 2, we still didnt get enough scene with side character.
 

Umariel

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The game is getting huge. LM himself admitted his upload speed is terrible, so it would help him (at first), and help the fans not have to wait for mirrors or compressed versions (at first) to download the game with the 5GB caps on most cloud storage services.

The most troubling part of a new game is: how do you transfer all those variables to the new game?
There's some ways to make it happen:
1. Make a final save ("Please save here"), from which new game part reads variables on first start.
2. Import variables, when needed - afaik [Turning Tricks] developer uses it to import MC name
from his 1st VN to 2nd on the fly (both VNs uses same world and MCs knows each other there).
3. Old good method of asking a player, what important choices he made in previous chapters.
 

storm1051787

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No. Cass was absolutely *NOT* "having fun and playing", she believed the dagger in the crypt had destiny altering magic, and was going to try to use it make herself queen. She *believed* that! It was *NOT* fun and games. When the MC tried to stop her she tried to stab him and he retaliated without seeing clearly because she targeted his eye and in a twist of Karma she was the one who ended up losing her eye instead. Don't try to twist this into some garbage nonsense about how oh she was just having fun and the poor innocent flower got stabbed...hell no.
Cass never tried to stab the mc. You could at least try and rewatch the scene instead of relying on memory. The scene plays out exactly like UnoriginalUserName says. The two of them are in a tug of war over the knife and cass accidently scratches the mc. Then he gets mad and stabs her eye. Cass even says in the scene that it was an accident that happened only because the mc pulled her hand. Like I know you're pretty open about disliking her, but you could at least try and converse in good faith. Cass.PNG
 

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There's some ways to make it happen:
1. Make a final save ("Please save here"), from which new game part reads variables on first start.
2. Import variables, when needed - afaik [Turning Tricks] developer uses it to import MC name
from his 1st VN to 2nd on the fly (both VNs uses same world and MCs knows each other there).
3. Old good method of asking a player, what important choices he made in previous chapters.
Yeah, it's technically possible - but it will not be easy to implement.
 

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Wait so can someone explain to me in dummy terms what Alaina revealed to the MC?
So lets start from the very beginning. Red Emperor has 3 sons as of we know. Conrad, youngest; our father, the eldest (?) (who was supposed to executed because of patricide) and Regis who is the middle child, also revealed to be Cass' father by Alaina. Supposedly, when Red Emperor got defeated and returned to capital, he was killed by his eldest son -who is our father actually- and executed (he got locked up actually thanks to Alaina).
Anyway, when Regis was killed by his wife (Cass' mom), she went to Alaina and Alaina decided to hid the fact of his death to replace the middle child with the eldest (our father) because nobles wouldn't accept the eldest child as their king, according to Alaina. So to actually make the whole situation believable she orchestrated a mass assassination with the purpouse of killing everyone who knows real Regis (middle son), starting with Cass' mom and also Red Emperor's wife according to Conrad.
Later she confesses that she blackmailed our father to marry Seraphine and to ensure your succession, she poisoned our father to make him barren. Because, you know, nobles would have preffered a human over a half-elf even if it was a bastard. All-in-all thats why he didn't announce you as the heir, the eldest son from the very beginning but it worked in the favour of Alaina bcs if you were announced as the heir, you would be the target from the birth. So to ensure your safety and succession she got you exiled (with your help ofc lol).
After you got exiled, she start sending oracles to him to make him more delirious, I think. Later on, Cass started to send her oracles too. So she set them against each other, in that way she also orchestrated the coup.
In conclusion:
1. Real Regis was killed by his wife.
2. Our father replaced Real Regis by stealing his whole identity thanks to Alaina, they were alike and Alaina made some magic.
3. Alaina killed everyone who knows Real Regis; including Red Emperor's wife (according to Conrad) and Cass' mom, Sybilla.
4. Our father got blackmailed/indebted to Alaina and got married to Seraphine.
5. To ensure your succession, he poisoned our father to make him barren and got exiled for your own safety as an heir.
6. To make our father unfit to rule and make him more delirious, she sent oracles.
7. Cass start to send oracles too.
8. Alaina set Cass and king aganist each other by revealing who killed his mother. Which is a lie because she killed her.
9. In the end, she used both Cass and Priscilla to make the 'coup' happen. Not fully deliberatly perhaps but eh.

Total elven death. Kill elves, Behead elves. Roundhouse kick a long eared monkey into the concrete. Slam dunk a elf baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy elves. Defecate in a elf's food. Launch elves into the sun. Stir fry elves in a wok. Toss elves into active volcanoes. Urinate into a elf's wine. Judo throw elves into a wood chipper. Twist elves heads off. Report elves to the dwarf council. Karate chop elves in half. Curb stomp pregnant elves. Trap elves in quicksand. Crush elves in the trash compactor. Liquify elves in a vat of acid. Eat elves. Dissect elves, Exterminate elves in a gas chamber. Stomp elf skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate elves in the oven. Lobotomize all elves. Mandatory abortions for all elves. Grind half human, half elf fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown elves in siren infested water. Vaporize elves with dwarf magic. Kick old elves down the stairs. Feed elves to gargoyles. Slice elves in half with a dwarven axe.
 
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GarudoSCHE

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So lets start from the very beginning. Red Emperor has 3 sons as of we know. Conrad, youngest; our father, the eldest (?) (who was supposed to executed because of patricide) and Regis who is the middle child, also revealed to be Cass' father by Alaina. Supposedly, when Red Emperor got defeated and returned to capital, he was killed by his eldest son -who is our father actually- and executed (he got locked up actually thanks to Alaina).
Anyway, when Regis was killed by his wife (Cass' mom), she went to Alaina and Alaina decided to hid the fact of his death to replace the middle child with the eldest (our father) because nobles wouldn't accept the eldest child as their king, according to Alaina. So to actually make the whole situation believable she orchestrated a mass assassination with the purpouse of killing everyone who knows real Regis (middle son), starting with Cass' mom and also Red Emperor's wife according to Conrad.
Later she confesses that she blackmailed our father to marry Seraphine and to ensure your succession, she poisoned our father to make him barren. Because, you know, nobles would have preffered a human over a half-elf even if it was a bastard. All-in-all thats why he didn't announce you as the heir, the eldest son from the very beginning but it worked in the favour of Alaina bcs if you were announced as the heir, you would be the target from the birth. So to ensure your safety and succession she got you exiled (with your help ofc lol).
After you got exiled, she start sending oracles to him to make him more delirious, I think. Later on, Cass started to send her oracles too. So she set them against each other, in that way she also orchestrated the coup.
In conclusion:
1. Real Regis was killed by his wife.
2. Our father replaced Real Regis by stealing his whole identity thanks to Alaina, they were alike and Alaina made some magic.
3. Alaina killed everyone who knows Real Regis; including Red Emperor's wife (according to Conrad) and Cass' mom, Sybilla.
4. Our father got blackmailed/indebted to Alaina and got married to Seraphine.
5. To ensure your succession, he poisoned our father to make him barren and got exiled for your own safety as an heir.
6. To make our father unfit to rule and make him more delirious, she sent oracles.
7. Cass start to send oracles too.
8. Alaina set Cass and king aganist each other by revealing who killed his mother. Which is a lie because she killed her.
9. In the end, she used both Cass and Priscilla to make the 'coup' happen. Not fully deliberatly perhaps but eh.

Total elven death. Kill elves, Behead elves. Roundhouse kick a long eared monkey into the concrete. Slam dunk a elf baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy elves. Defecate in a elf's food. Launch elves into the sun. Stir fry elves in a wok. Toss elves into active volcanoes. Urinate into a elf's wine. Judo throw elves into a wood chipper. Twist elves heads off. Report elves to the dwarf council. Karate chop elves in half. Curb stomp pregnant elves. Trap elves in quicksand. Crush elves in the trash compactor. Liquify elves in a vat of acid. Eat elves. Dissect elves, Exterminate elves in a gas chamber. Stomp elf skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate elves in the oven. Lobotomize all elves. Mandatory abortions for all elves. Grind half human, half elf fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown elves in siren infested water. Vaporize elves with dwarf magic. Kick old elves down the stairs. Feed elves to gargoyles. Slice elves in half with a dwarven axe.
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Considering that I read the Wiedźmin book series during my adolescence, I make it a rule to always root for the elves in fantasy contexts.

Not to mention the fact that Conrad is also highly suspicious (at the end of the update, the camera zooms in on his face as the MC absorbs the new information, and I can see a mischievous smirk on the "king's protector's" face).

I'm hoping that (I'm on the green path) allying with Alaina and Cass will cement the possibility of something like a "dark elf path," potentially transforming the MC into someone similar to Eredin from The Wild Hunt.

And before anyone says Cass would object... Cass wants power! If that means killing humans and allying with elves (or dark elves), I think she'd be happy to do it.

The future will tell.
 

GarudoSCHE

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Considering that I read the Wiedźmin book series during my adolescence, I make it a rule to always root for the elves in fantasy contexts.

Not to mention the fact that Conrad is also highly suspicious (at the end of the update, the camera zooms in on his face as the MC absorbs the new information, and I can see a mischievous smirk on the "king's protector's" face).

I'm hoping that (I'm on the green path) allying with Alaina and Cass will cement the possibility of something like a "dark elf path," potentially transforming the MC into someone similar to Eredin from The Wild Hunt.

And before anyone says Cass would object... Cass wants power! If that means killing humans and allying with elves (or dark elves), I think she'd be happy to do it.

The future will tell.
I think that the role should still play whether you supported the elves (republic) in the west.

As for Conrad he may just turn out to be like Lord Garitos from Warcraft 3 (Just hates all non-humans). Though it seems to me that it's not just about hatred as a species, but just maybe he knows the truth about his brother's fate or guesses considering how drastically the man's character has changed
 

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Cass never tried to stab the mc. You could at least try and rewatch the scene instead of relying on memory. The scene plays out exactly like UnoriginalUserName says. The two of them are in a tug of war over the knife and cass accidently scratches the mc. Then he gets mad and stabs her eye. Cass even says in the scene that it was an accident that happened only because the mc pulled her hand. Like I know you're pretty open about disliking her, but you could at least try and converse in good faith. View attachment 5063182
Bro, this is literally who Cass has *always* been. She always tried to take what she wanted at any cost and if she couldn't have it she'd try to destroy it so nobody else could and shifted the blame. Of course *she* would say her hand was pulled! What do you think she'd say! But he wasn't even touching her when she cut him! If he was pulling her hand and she was resisting then her hand would have gone away from him when he let go of her hand. Her hand had to be going towards him he let go, I mean come on, do you really buy the idea that he would drag the dagger into is own face? No, at best he was trying to move her hand sideways away from them but he let go she saw her chance to cut and shift the blame...he was literally not touching her when she cut.
 

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Bro, this is literally who Cass has *always* been. She always tried to take what she wanted at any cost and if she couldn't have it she'd try to destroy it so nobody else could and shifted the blame. Of course *she* would say her hand was pulled! What do you think she'd say! But he wasn't even touching her when she cut him! If he was pulling her hand and she was resisting then her hand would have gone away from him when he let go of her hand. Her hand had to be going towards him he let go, I mean come on, do you really buy the idea that he would drag the dagger into is own face? No, at best he was trying to move her hand sideways away from them but he let go she saw her chance to cut and shift the blame...he was literally not touching her when she cut.

He was literally touching her when it was pulled and only lets go of the knife to cover his eye after he was injured. LIke I said you can say whatever shit you want about Cass true self or whatever I don't really care. But you are intentionally lying and ignoring the actual events of the scene to justify your own bias against the character. It happened exactly like I just said. They were both in a tug of war over the knife and mc got injured because they were stupid kids playing with knives.

If your so convinced that Cass was intentionally trying to stab the mc and we are all misreading the scene why would the mc let go of the knife in the first place? He was very clearly trying to take the knife from her the second before he got injured, why would he just suddenly stop pulling? Also it's not that he let go and her hand flug towards him. Is that he pulled her hand in his direction as he was trying to wrestle control of the knife from her and it grazed him. And why do you think we are saying he dragged the knife to his face? That's not what happened. The knife was already outstretch and upword so when he pulled the knife in his direction it scratched his face because it's a sharp object pointed upward.



Like I said I don't really care whether you like Cass or not, think she's a psych or not but you don't have to blatantly lie to try to make that point. They were wrestling over the knife, it got too close to the mc's face and he got scratched. It's pretty simple. Also why would cass need to shift blame in the first place. If she wanted the mc gone she could have actually stabbed him or cut his throat or anything
 
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As long as we get a full femdom Cass path where the MC becomes her puppet, I’ll be happy. Unfortunately, I don’t think we’re getting it. With every new update, there’s less and less femdom content with her.

Alaina might get a route like that, though
 

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As long as we get a full femdom Cass path where the MC becomes her puppet, I’ll be happy. Unfortunately, I don’t think we’re getting it. With every new update, there’s less and less femdom content with her.

Alaina might get a route like that, though
Hopefully there’ll also be the opposite route with maledom content for Cass and Alaina :illuminati:
 
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