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PaPaPantagruel

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This Conrad and the king have the same mother, but he has blond hair while the king has dark hair. Is there something fishy going on here? Can this Kingsguard really be trusted?
Conrad may have gotten his looks from the same mother. Even identical twins sometimes have different hair colors, or other traits. I don't think this mother is ever mentioned, but Elis thinks the king may prefer blondes, so maybe his father (the Red Emperor) also preferred a blonde wife?
 
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This Conrad and the king have the same mother, but he has blond hair while the king has dark hair. Is there something fishy going on here? Can this Kingsguard really be trusted?
As far as I know, for blond children to appear, it is enough that there are already blond-haired children in the family. And if I remember correctly, in Elise memories, if you choose that you will be that you feel more like an elf, then they will show you your ancestors and it seems that they had blond hair. If I remember everything correctly, I haven't replayed the first chapters for a long time
 

DrakoGhoul

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I don't see anything weird about Conrad having blond hair. He could've easily got that from his mother and if I'm not mistaken, that's what was said in the game at some point. Think Sera pointed that out to the King when he became paranoid at the dinner. Before naming Elis heir. Either that, or someone in his recent family had blond hair.

Not to mention, I don't think the dev is going to do anymore of these bloodline twists. It's already getting complicated to keep up with as is. If they keep adding more on top of it, it's just going to turn into an incoherent mess.
 
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nightsouls

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I don't see anything weird about Conrad having blond hair. He could've easily got that from his mother and if I'm not mistaken, that's what was said in the game at some point. Think Sera pointed that out to the King when he became paranoid at the dinner. Before naming Elis heir. Either that, or someone in his recent family had blond hair.

Not to mention, I don't think the dev is going to do anymore of these bloodline twists. It's already getting complicated to keep up with as is. If they keep adding more on top of it, it's just going to turn into an incoherent mess.
Since it's currently unclear whether the Red Emperor's hair was black or brown, Conrad's lineage cannot be definitively confirmed. Theoretically, if the Red Emperor had dark hair, his descendants would at most have brown hair, and it's unlikely that any would remain blond into adulthood, even if their mother was blond.
I've seen one parent with brown hair and one with blond hair, and children with blond hair from infancy that gradually darkened. But I've never seen a child with blond hair under these circumstances.
Perhaps I'm not well-informed enough, or perhaps I've been misled by George R.R. Martin. I'm still confused about the Red Emperor's true cause of death. What happened to Regis's imprisoned brother? And the fact that Regis was killed while Elis was peeking into the past doesn't seem realistic. Is there some secret behind this?
 

DrakoGhoul

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Perhaps I'm not well-informed enough, or perhaps I've been misled by George R.R. Martin. I'm still confused about the Red Emperor's true cause of death. What happened to Regis's imprisoned brother? And the fact that Regis was killed while Elis was peeking into the past doesn't seem realistic. Is there some secret behind this?
Regis was killed by Cass mother. The current King is the oldest brother that was imprisoned. We don't know if the current king actually killed his father. But he is the cause of it and with the elves help, he replaced his deceased brother. This entire thing was all engineered in a large part by Alaina as a way for the elves to take over. She killed Cass mother afterwards, made "Regis" get with Sera (Queen) and have children so they would inherit the throne. Even going as far as making him sterile afterwards so he couldn't father more bastards. If the above is indeed true. That makes Elis, Elin and Lia the cousin of Cass.

Also, I think Valerian and Valerie is an in game example of a blond child coming from a black haired father. Even though Valerie original hair was blonde before stress turned it white/gray? I would include Elis but since he's a half elf, that could be factoring in a lot. Since his kids with Aurora all have blonde hair while his kids with Isis have black hair.
 

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Regis was killed by Cass mother. The current King is the oldest brother that was imprisoned. We don't know if the current king actually killed his father. But he is the cause of it and with the elves help, he replaced his deceased brother. This entire thing was all engineered in a large part by Alaina as a way for the elves to take over. She killed Cass mother afterwards, made "Regis" get with Sera (Queen) and have children so they would inherit the throne. Even going as far as making him sterile afterwards so he couldn't father more bastards. If the above is indeed true. That makes Elis, Elin and Lia the cousin of Cass.

Also, I think Valerian and Valerie is an in game example of a blond child coming from a black haired father. Even though Valerie original hair was blonde before stress turned it white/gray? I would include Elis but since he's a half elf, that could be factoring in a lot. Since his kids with Aurora all have blonde hair while his kids with Isis have black hair.
I would like to ask a question: if you choose, during the encounter with the entity in the forest (or swamp), to see the present and visualize Alaina talking to Conrad, does that change any dialogue in the recent update?
 
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DrakoGhoul

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I would like to ask a question: if you choose, during the encounter with the entity in the forest (or swamp), to see the present and visualize Alaina talking to Conrad, does that change any dialogue in the recent update?
From what I noticed, not much. But that could just be me not choosing them in the forest. Since I only chose it for specific playthroughs. Mage Elis does bring up that she got him exiled though. Which is something he learned through a vision. So maybe some of the dialogue has Elis bringing it up in the meeting with Alaina. I'll have to go back and check though.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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Alright, I checked both past scene with Sybilla and the present scene with Cass in prison. It doesn't seem to have an effect with Alaina, weirdly enough. Maybe it's tracked in the code or something? Elis kind of just forgets or doesn't mention it. Maybe he just isn't meant to reveal too much from these scenes? As in, he knows the information but doesn't want Alaina to know he knows. Like he's digging so he can verify that the visions are indeed real/true and that what Alaina said is also true, but without giving away that he knows. Since he mostly remains passive when Alaina is telling him her side of the story. Especially when she reveals everything from the past later. Or maybe Elis thinks the information is redundant since Cass tells him beforehand and Alaina openly admits to the things happening that he saw.
 
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Benn Swagger

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Newcomer here, which Elis path has the most interesting sub branches plot ? Scholar, Mage or Warrior ?

I tested the Scholar, he made blood pact with a vampire and has possibility have killer-machine child. Kinda weird but cool to have a vampire-guard and a hellspawn kid.
 

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Newcomer here, which Elis path has the most interesting sub branches plot ? Scholar, Mage or Warrior ?

I tested the Scholar, he made blood pact with a vampire and has possibility have killer-machine child. Kinda weird but cool to have a vampire-guard and a hellspawn kid.
Scholar, you get more lore and it enables you to fuck more mythical creatures. Only downside is that you are a wimp by comparison.

Warrior is for a physical chad to impress and fuck villagers and Isis.
Mage is optimal to bond with Elin and the elves magicians.
 

storm1051787

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Newcomer here, which Elis path has the most interesting sub branches plot ? Scholar, Mage or Warrior ?

I tested the Scholar, he made blood pact with a vampire and has possibility have killer-machine child. Kinda weird but cool to have a vampire-guard and a hellspawn kid.
Not a huge difference for any of them imo. Personally I prefer warrior, but I'm a Cass fan and an Isis fan and they both prefer the warrior
 
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jadepaladin

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Newcomer here, which Elis path has the most interesting sub branches plot ? Scholar, Mage or Warrior ?

I tested the Scholar, he made blood pact with a vampire and has possibility have killer-machine child. Kinda weird but cool to have a vampire-guard and a hellspawn kid.
Scholar is most satisfying lore wise, imo. You are privy to information you don't get on the other routes. You can also get extra points with Aurora by meeting her early.

Mage mainly adds stuff to Elin's route with the portals but that ends up almost feeling like a sub-story. Alaina also has some additional dialogue.

Warrior gets extra sex scenes here and there like being able to watch Elin masturbate, fucking the farmer's wife when you're heading west, etc. It also allows you to get early points with Isis when she's introduced.
 

GarudoSCHE

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Newcomer here, which Elis path has the most interesting sub branches plot ? Scholar, Mage or Warrior ?

I tested the Scholar, he made blood pact with a vampire and has possibility have killer-machine child. Kinda weird but cool to have a vampire-guard and a hellspawn kid.
It all comes down to what character you like and what coronation you chose for MC. For example, the mage gives a lot of content for Elin. And if you are a bookworm and on the side with Cassandra, this gives you the opportunity to get by with even less bloodshed during the coup. The warrior in this regard is something in between: you get a couple of unique renders with Elin and get punched in the face less in battles.
 

FalconLover420

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I feel like the class don't matter in terms of sex scenes.

You can still get most of the content aside from lore and a couple of things.

Warrior can still marry aurora and have the love relationship
Scholar can still be dominant towards Isis as well.
 

jadepaladin

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I feel like the class don't matter in terms of sex scenes.

You can still get most of the content aside from lore and a couple of things.

Warrior can still marry aurora and have the love relationship
Scholar can still be dominant towards Isis as well.
The class does matter in terms of sex scenes since there are class exclusive sex scenes, such as warrior being able to watch Elin masturbate when the other classes can't.

Main LIs are not cut off by class. Side girls can be, like Sona or the farmer's wife when heading west.
 

FalconLover420

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The class does matter in terms of sex scenes since there are class exclusive sex scenes, such as warrior being able to watch Elin masturbate when the other classes can't.

Main LIs are not cut off by class. Side girls can be, like Sona or the farmer's wife when heading west.
It really doesn't because after the coup all sex scenes are streamlined disregarding class aside from what I said about side characters being a variant.
You still have sex with the queen, elin, lia, cass and a couple of others
 

Filipis

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It really doesn't because after the coup all sex scenes are streamlined disregarding class aside from what I said about side characters being a variant.
You still have sex with the queen, elin, lia, cass and a couple of others
Yeah, but if those sex scenes were class-locked, there'd be a riot. Not to mention, a logistical nightmare to code & manage.
 
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