Impregnation fetish enthusiasts: how old are you?

[woody554]

Or maybe the poll is skewed due to our membership base pulling more toward that age group?

I think that's it. we've had age polls before and the youngsters are by far the largest group on f95. we'd need to compare the numbers against that to see whether 70% in 18-29 group is more or less than the size of that age bracket in general.

 

[Deleted member 1952336]

There's a sampling bias here, if it isn't adjusted for the typical age of the people in this forum.

 

[anne O'nymous]

You're arguing against basic biology here, sex drive lowers as you get older [...]

I'm not arguing against biology, I'm arguing against you regurgitating a cliché as if it was the gospel.
As if the sex drive could be

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, and as if all humans were the same. It's not the fact that your body age that lower your sex drive, but the fact that your life change.

There's of course the testosterone factor. But only a high decrease can effectively have an influence on your libido and, while it's natural that your level of testosterone lower,

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. People having a more active life will generally keep a higher testosterone level through the age, and witness near to no influence on their sex drive ; at least none due to this sole factor.
But, as said, it's not the sole factor. While you age, your level of responsibility tend to grow, what divert your mind and lead to the false impression that your sex drive decrease. But it's just a false impression, reason why many couples have more sex during their vacations than during the rest of the year.
Same goes for the growing routine in the couple. You still have a high sex drive, but it's like being hungry and looking in the fridge ; you still want to have sex as often than before, but are now less interested by the person in your bed. Reason why sexologists often put the emphasis in role play, and why sex toys become more and more popular in middle age couples ; it break the routine, and lead to a regain of your interest.
And those aren't the sole factors anyway, health playing also a part in this. You'll obviously feel less interested in sex if you know that your body will hurt for hours after this, or that you need to be careful due to your heart condition. But once again, this represent your interest in sex, not your effective sex drive.
This while, in the same time, there's 50yo/60yo guys who fuck like teens, because they enter in a new relationship at a time they don't anymore care about the world around them.

For a woman, her physical attractiveness is naturally related to fertility, other than this why else do you think men would find women sexually desirable? use some common sense, whether you have care about impregnation or not, these are the things that heavily define female attractiveness

I explicitly gave you two examples that undeniably prove you wrong, yet you continue to believe that you represent every single human being...

Physical attractiveness is a question of personal taste, but also depend on

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. And obviously, while you'll think that it's the physical appearance that attracted you, it's not necessarily true. It's just that the other factors (

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, but also

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) aren't noticeable, partly because coming from your own side. The fact that you discarded women that, otherwise, you would have found physically attractive, create a mental bias that blind you to her physical appearance, making you instead focus on details that enforce you repulsion.
By the way, evolution also prove you wrong. We wouldn't have such diversity in women bodies, if physical appearance was effectively directly linked to signs of fertility. For around 90% of humanity history, breeding was the result of pure instinct, and therefore a response to the pure physical appearance. Every morphological traits standing at the opposite of "high fertility", like small breasts or tight hips by example, would have just disappeared from our genome.

As for the common sense part, what to say ? Knowing that your own taste isn't, and will never be, universal, is common sense, and yet you don't seem to be aware of this.

 

[Hadley]

Man like to spread their seed. No matter what age. Its biological, if that wasn't the case Humans would not have made it this far.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

if that wasn't the case Humans would not have made it this far.

They probably would, if they didn't like to slaughter each other just as much as they seem to like breeding each other.
But we have nukes now, so one wrong move and not even mother nature's programming will save us from our own stupidity.

 

[daedilus]

For a woman, her physical attractiveness is naturally related to fertility, other than this why else do you think men would find women sexually desirable? use some common sense, whether you have care about impregnation or not, these are the things that heavily define female attractiveness

I would disagree with this emphatically. The typical things that men stereo-typically associate with 'fertility' are completely wrong and without basis. In our ancestral history, they were general truths, but it was a matter of nothing more than feeding stock, rather than breeding stock.

The stereotype of the 'plump whore of Babylon', with her lascivious plumpness and over-sized hips and pendulous breasts embodies the genetic visage of overfed cavewoman with plentiful resources producing more young because she was bred by the strongest caveman. This 'truth' was observed by every beta male for over 100k years.

Although this genetic information was observably true for over 100,000 years, beyond the age of 'only the strongest being allowed to mate', it was then, and remains today, a completely false correlational observation. Much like the day becomes bright because the sun god appears.

The most fertile women on earth observably, are Asians, which systematically have the

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, (average cup size of AAA-B depending on country), the most petite women, 90%+ under 5 foot and under 90 pounds, with narrow hips. Comparatively, their men also have the

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on the planet, are diminutive in size, and most typically have the least body hair and lowest testosterone count of all men... Yet they have bred 4.5 billion of the entire planets population, with India, (another bastion of smaller breasts, tiny penises [sorry guys], and low body hair / testosterone), making up over another 1.5 billion of the worlds population.

Africa, which again has average breast size predominately of AAA - C, (although longer penises! Yay for you guys!) Makes up about another 1.3 billion.

As it turns out, you see, Everything you thought you knew about fertile women is completely wrong and is in fact the opposite.
All the big-tiddy, phat bottom plump debutantes in all of North America, Europe, South America, and the Middle east account for less than 6% of the worlds population.

The rest are lithe, petite, flat chested women. 94.94% of the entire worlds population.

If you want to squeeze out a dozen kids. Get the smallest, skinniest Asian, Indian or African woman you can find.
The plump, fat bottom girls usually die in childbirth before they reach 6 kids.

Genghis Khan has 16 million living descendants today. Small penis, low-T boys get VERY busy!

 

[Geralt_R]

I would disagree with this emphatically. The typical things that men stereo-typically associate with 'fertility' are completely wrong and without basis.

While your point about body types is certainly correct it's still true that men - on average - prefer fertile women who can bear children as sex partners over women who have had their menopause. If said fertile woman is a petite cutie or the spitting image of some stone age fertility goddess doesn't matter here. What matters is age (youth) and fertility, not any particular look or body shape. Beauty standards change over time, but the preference for young and fertile does not. Body shape is irrelevant here.

If given a choice the overwhelming majority of men would pick the 20 year old young woman over the 55 year old mature and most likely infertile woman for a fun adventure. At least when we talk about baser things like "lust" and "sex". Of course you also have to factor in personality, character etc. when it's about a longterm relationship, but if we talk about pure sex appeal then young fertile women have spades of it and older women cannot compete here anymore - on average, there will always be outliers. But men would almost always pick the young fertile woman, especially if they want to procreate and spread their genes. It's basic biology and evolution. Grandmas are - on average - much less attractive to men than youthful women for a reason.

And birth rates are highly corrolated with living standard, that Asians and Africans - on average- get so many more kids than people in Europe or North America has little to do with western women being more prone to die in child birth. If you look at a country like Japan, the most developed country in Asia, then their birth rates are among the lowest in the world and they will soon face a severe population crisis. A country like India still cannot compete even remotely with Japan or other developed nations when it comes to living standard. The poorer you are the more kids you will usually bring into this world, because kids are your life insurance in poor countries with little or no social security. It has little to do with fertility itself.

 

[ChaosOpen]

Is impregnation really a fetish? Most people classify a fetish as a sexual obsession with an object or act that would not normally be involved in procreation. So, for example, feet, there is no real way to make a baby only using a woman's feet. However, an impregnation fetish is akin to saying you have a vagina fetish. It doesn't make sense to paint standard vanilla sex as fetish play.

I'd say impregnation is more akin to a complete lack of fetishes. You're dedicated to simply the end goal of reproduction and have lost interest in the process itself.

 

[daedilus]

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...If given a choice the overwhelming majority of men would pick the 20 year old young woman over the 55 year old mature and most likely infertile woman for a fun adventure...

... birth rates are highly correlated with living standard, that Asians and Africans - on average- get so many more kids than people in Europe or North America has little to do with western women being more prone to die in child birth...

...If you look at a country like Japan, the most developed country in Asia, then their birth rates are among the lowest in the world and they will soon face a severe population crisis...

To point A:
Of course the majority of men would pick a living person over a corpse too. The 55 year old woman is just a couple of years away from sexual inactivity, and few more from needing overall care.

I would be willing to bet most men would pick a 20 year old gardener over a 55 year old woman as well, and that has Zero to do with fertility. You are trying to tie fertility to age, which of course has a natural correlation; but you are completely discounting strength, ability and finite human lifespan in that same calculation. Of course a 20 year old is going to have more fertile years than a 55 year old, any by the linear nature of the arrow of time, they are also going to have more strength, ability and lifespan too.

If my 'Fun Adventure' was to catalog a library, or perform research on financial or scientific endeavor, you can bet your ass i would pick the 55 year old every time.

To your point B:
My wife just hit 42 and we are just now trying for a child. We waited until we were in the financial situation to be able to pay for things out of pocket, without going into debt. This has become not uncommon in the west, a world of wage-slaves, taking out life-crushing mortgages on their future as children, in a desperate gamble to have enough money so you don't starve to death in your old age. Undoubtedly, this has a tremendous effect on birth rate. But this has not always been the case, if we go back 1000 years to feudal times, and the late Roman period, there is a good apples to apples correlation in living conditions.
We have feudal serfs compared to feudal serfs, and the first large cities compared to the first large cities.

And the Asians win. Hands down. Song China had a population of over 80 million, The Chola Dynasty, 22 Million. India over 11 million. The Eastern (HRE) and Western (Byzantine) Roman Empire had around 24 million, but remember that both of these empires included all of Europe, Asia Minor, North Africa, and around the Iberian peninsula.

In apples to apples technology and lifestyle, that's 110 million to 24, and part of that 24 is Africa. They are better breeders.

To your point C:
Japan is a unique anomaly among the Asiatics, and it's 'wounds' such as they are, are largely self inflicted. The unique warrior path of zero tolerance for defeat encompassed in the code of Bushido, combined with the nearly complete loss of breeding alpha male genetics by the end of WW2, has produced an entire race shamed to the point of, and feeling an obligation to, national suicide. The words of the former emperor Hirohito, "must endure the unendurable" still ring in the Japanese mindset.
While those words were initially credited in western medias as having 'saved' Japan during the post-war resurgence, that has since proved, to my mind, a false narrative.

Personally, i believe that it was the survivors of that generation, who felt an obligation to the Emperor's words, and as that generation has died out, so have the fortunes of Japan. While their civilization remains clean, modern and unique among Asiatics, it became so under Emperor Meiji's Restoration, destroying the previous Feudal system under the Shogunate.
The Bushido mindset, of 'everything for my Emperor and my State before myself, to the point of death' did survive, and was weaponized by Japanese military. 25% of Japans male population died in WW II. These were principally front line fighters, the majority of which are comprised by genetically predisposed 'Alpha Males'.

A further 15 million of Japans fighting males never returned home after the war, out of shame of Bushido.

Japan effectively lost 40% of it's fighting age male population from the genetic pool. The remaining males were mostly elderly or so-called 'Beta Males', administrative, clerical, politicians, businessmen, etc. People without a predisposition towards fighting, and without those proclivities. These active genetic traits are also what makes good strong breeding stock.

The weak breeding stock, combined with the national shame and desire for suicide under Bushido, suppressed only by the Emperors command, delayed at best for a generation the inevitable outcome.

The Japanese male today is introverted, self absorbed, and focused on asexuality, to the point that the femininity has become the ideal for males, (J-pop type male stars lithe, weak and wearing makeup and lipstick), while the females perform the majority of traditional male roles, farming, building, etc. The average Japanese male today who marries at all, works in a white collar job, does not marry until age 47, and produces .02 children.

Less than 13% of the population is age 14 or under, 64% are 15-64, and 29% are 65+...
The Japanese, as an effective country, will cease to exist within 2 generations, unless forced breeding programs are established.

None of that has anything to do with their Fecundity however, and everything to do with a self-genocidal collapse based on a devotion based on an ancient code, which failed to adapt to a modern world.

 

[ChaosOpen]

To your point C:
Japan is a unique anomaly among the Asiatics, and it's 'wounds' such as they are, are largely self inflicted. The unique warrior path of zero tolerance for defeat encompassed in the code of Bushido, combined with the nearly complete loss of breeding alpha male genetics by the end of WW2, has produced an entire race shamed to the point of, and feeling an obligation to, national suicide. The words of the former emperor Hirohito, "must endure the unendurable" still ring in the Japanese mindset.
While those words were initially credited in western medias as having 'saved' Japan during the post-war resurgence, that has since proved, to my mind, a false narrative.

Personally, i believe that it was the survivors of that generation, who felt an obligation to the Emperor's words, and as that generation has died out, so have the fortunes of Japan. While their civilization remains clean, modern and unique among Asiatics, it became so under Emperor Meiji's Restoration, destroying the previous Feudal system under the Shogunate.
The Bushido mindset, of 'everything for my Emperor and my State before myself, to the point of death' did survive, and was weaponized by Japanese military. 25% of Japans male population died in WW II. These were principally front line fighters, the majority of which are comprised by genetically predisposed 'Alpha Males'.

A further 15 million of Japans fighting males never returned home after the war, out of shame of Bushido.

Japan effectively lost 40% of it's fighting age male population from the genetic pool. The remaining males were mostly elderly or so-called 'Beta Males', administrative, clerical, politicians, businessmen, etc. People without a predisposition towards fighting, and without those proclivities. These active genetic traits are also what makes good strong breeding stock.

The weak breeding stock, combined with the national shame and desire for suicide under Bushido, suppressed only by the Emperors command, delayed at best for a generation the inevitable outcome.

The Japanese male today is introverted, self absorbed, and focused on asexuality, to the point that the femininity has become the ideal for males, (J-pop type male stars lithe, weak and wearing makeup and lipstick), while the females perform the majority of traditional male roles, farming, building, etc. The average Japanese male today who marries at all, works in a white collar job, does not marry until age 47, and produces .02 children.

Less than 13% of the population is age 14 or under, 64% are 15-64, and 29% are 65+...
The Japanese, as an effective country, will cease to exist within 2 generations, unless forced breeding programs are established.

None of that has anything to do with their Fecundity however, and everything to do with a self-genocidal collapse based on a devotion based on an ancient code, which failed to adapt to a modern world.

Also, the Japanese society doesn't make courtship very easy. It is considered rude to walk up and initiate a conversation with someone who you don't know or don't have a reason to speak to. So, their pool of potential dating candidates are close friends, schoolmates, and coworkers. Three groups you rarely will find a wife. Also, if you look at Japanese media it always has the other party heavily pursuing the self-insert. Anyone who has lost their virginity will know that girls won't tackle you to the ground and demand you pull out your cock, women don't like it when you so much as ask permission, they don't like being the one responsible for initiating sex. With most men waiting to be tackled to the ground by their childhood friend it is small wonder over 40% of Japanese are virgins well into their 30's.

 

[obibobi]

I would disagree with this emphatically.

You confused fertility with cultural differences and went on about asian populations.

Most women can safely carry a child to term but our minds are still stuck in the hunter gatherer period when child birth was a real danger.

Women are still attracted to men who they feel can protect and provide for them, even if that's often not needed anymore as well.

 

[Geralt_R]

You are trying to tie fertility to age, which of course has a natural correlation; but you are completely discounting strength, ability and finite human lifespan in that same calculation.

I am not really, fertility in women declines as they grow older, this is a very well researched scientific fact, the other factors don't matter at all when it comes to the ability to bear children. It's just age and fertility, nothing else, and fertily is directly tied to age, nothing else. Once a woman goes past 30 her fertility declines, and it declines rapidly over the age of 40. It makes evolutionary sense for a male (of any age) to prefer a young woman as a sexual partner when he wants to procreate. I am only talking biology here, not other factors like wealth (i.e. can you actually support a child?).
And I am not talking about actual relationships here or having a good time at the library or museum. I am talking about the innate urge to spread your genes. Wanting to have sex with a young woman with the chance to procreate is different from wanting to have a longterm relationship with a partner.

Japan may have a unique culture but it doesn't change the fact that birth rates have a causal relationship with living standards. The higher the standard the lower the birth rate will usually be. All the countries with really high birth rates are among the poorest in the world, just look up the list on Wikipedia. And all the countries with low birth rates are usually among the richest (with some exceptions like Russia or Ukraine, which have additional issues). The top 25 countries with the highest birth rates are all in Africa. This is no coincidence. The more developed Asian nations like China or India are either in the middle regions of the table or even lower third.

You simply cannot state that certain "races" (there are no races really in the biological sense) are better breeders without accounting for cultural differences, how fertile the region is, how much war and diseases devastated a region and how much food is produced overall. For example the traditional hunter gatherer cultures in North America would always have a much smaller population than a highly structured and organized culture like in China with extensive agriculture. Doesn't mean Native Americans are worse "breeders" than Chinese people. They just had a completely different lifestyle and culture than Qing or Ming China.

And historically speaking Europe had 28% of the world population in the early 20th century, just before WW I, at the end of the early stages of industrial revolution, more than China at the time. But then living standards in Europe improved dramatically. and population has only increased by a factor of 0.5 since then, whereas in China the population has almost quadrupled. And they were extremely poor for much of the 20th century, that only really changed gradually after Mao.

 

[daedilus]

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You seem to be missing my point?

From the previous: "You are trying to tie fertility to age, which of course has a natural correlation; but you are completely discounting strength, ability and finite human lifespan in that same calculation. Of course a 20 year old is going to have more fertile years than a 55 year old, any by the linear nature of the arrow of time, they are also going to have more strength, ability and lifespan too.
If my 'Fun Adventure' was to catalog a library, or perform research on financial or scientific endeavor, you can bet your ass i would pick the 55 year old every time."

Yes, fertility directly correlates to age, but again you are discounting strength, ability and finite human lifespan... Would you hire the 20 year old or the 55 year old as a gardener? I chose a 20 something year old as my wife too, because she had an awesome tight little 90 pound Asian fucking machine body... Even though i didn't want kids, so that throws your 'fertility' being the reason right out the window.

Obviously, 'fertility' is not the only reason anyone would choose a 20 year old over a 55 year old, but if you were ACTUALLY in the market for a fertile breeder, OF COURSE you would choose the 20 year old. It would fly in the face of all logic not to.

My statement is just pointing out that you are ignoring every other possible reason for choosing a 20 year old over a 55 year old and lumping them together. There are thousands of other reasons people would choose the 20 year old over a 55 year old and the majority of them have NOTHING to do with fertility.


Further, your notion that 'Europe' had 28% of the population is again deeply flawed. The actual number is about 42%. You are counting "The British Empire" as part of Europe, at that time it had 403,000,000 people in it... whilst China had only 400,000,000...The vast majority of the British Empires population was in Asia, (including significant portions of China), and Africa, both of which accounted part of "The British Empire" at that time... As well as Canada, the Caribbean and portions of Canada...

Even further, the French, Dutch, Germans and Spain also had significant numbers of colonies, including the majority of their populations in Africa, South America, the Philippines and the East Indies, as well as the vast territorial area of Canada, (though granted not the population centers).

Once you remove the 'colonies' which are not actual European populations, in 1900 the British Isles have 30 million, not 403 million, the population of the Netherlands, not the "Dutch Empire" is 10 million, not 47 million... France, 40 million, not 78 million, Germany 56 million, not 67 million, and so on down the line of 'Empires'...

If you instead search the

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, you find that Asia had 946 million people in 1900, compared to Europe's 406 million. But into that you have to factor the significant lifestyle differences of the 1900's. Europe had Doctors, hospitals, the beginnings of modern medicine, Universities, and the Industrial Revolution. Mortality rates in Europe compared to Asia were at minimum 10 times lower, and likely much lower than that, possibly in the hundreds of times... Who can tell? As there were no significant mortality records being kept in Asiatic states at that time.

That's why i reverted to a year 1000 comparison, because all parties had similar feudal lifestyles with similar levels of lifestyle, technology and medicine. The Roman era Chinese were really no less innovative and constructive than the Romans, so it's an excellent point to compare birth rates.

Now certainly 'modern' nations and 'modern' lifestyles reduce fertility rates, as education and awareness of biological sustainability come into focus, the educated cannot help but understand overpopulation and reduce their desire to have 3 wives and 23 kids...

But equally it could be argued, that this would have the inverse effect as well. Nations realizing they are not sustaining their population, would then feel the obligation to increase their numbers.

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, neither in the outlier Japan, with a 1.4 fertility rate, (2.0 is neutral as it replaces the woman and her partner), nor in any of the first world countries, Europe, USA, China, (forced sterility), Russia, Australia, None of them, Not a single modern nation is producing enough offspring to replace their populations.

Instead, the populations in these countries are growing by leaps and bounds... Not though procreation, but through the forced importations of third worlder's to keep up the numbers of wage-slaves.

Meanwhile, Asiatic states which do have modern cities, education, hospitalization and medicine, ARE maintaining birth rates of 2.0+.

 

[Geralt_R]

My statement is just pointing out that you are ignoring every other possible reason for choosing a 20 year old over a 55 year old and lumping them together.

I really only talk about pure physical attractiveness, nothing else. Not overall package that includes character, education, intelligence etc - everything that most people would select for if they want to enter a serious relationship. This is just about why most men will find young fertile women more attractive. No reasonable person will choose a partner just based on sheer attractivenes. But that was not the point.

Actually, you need 2.1 kids per women, but that is a technicality, you need to account for accidental deaths etc. The big countries in Asia almost all have a birth rate below 2.1. India is at 2.05, China 1.7, Bangladesh 1.99 and South Korea must REALLY hate sex or kids or both, since their birth rate is an astounding 0.84. Then there's Japan which was mentioned before. Birth rates in countries like Indonesia and Philippines, still a bit above 2.1, are steadily declining and in a few years they too will fall below 2.1 that is needed to sustaint population numbers. Pakistan is one of the last countries in Asia with a relatively high birth rate of 3.3+ or so, but it's declining there as well. The population in Asia will decrease in the coming decades. Overpopulation has been cancelled.

And sure, importing workers from poor countries is the only thing that keeps many industrialized countries going. Or else entire sectors would collapse, someone needs to deliver cheap Amazon products, someone has to clean the pools or wash the dishes at restaurants etc or care for the elderly in nursing homes.
And you can't force people to procreate. I suppose the fixation on career and jobs over other things like "family" are partly to blame, and raising kids has become more and more cost prohibitive in modern societies where many people live hand to mouth already with little or no savings, working minimum wage jobs will do that. Raising a kid that causes additional costs is a major risk for poverty, especially for single moms whose partner left them after birth. Who would want that? Not enough people, apparently.

Unless societies focus more again on families and don't put jobs/money/personal happiness above anything else things will likely not change. I feel western societies, as a whole, have become more egocentric where personal happiness and freedom is of prime importance and sacrificing certain things in favor of having kids is considered a negative thing by many.

 

[BiggestDickest]

For me the pregnancy fetish is a relatively recent additional to my gallery of perversions... I think that for me, it is related to me growing old and dealing with some subconscious fear of death because impregnation -> virility -> life.

As for kids: I have some and they are awesome. Not perfect (nobody is) and sometimes annoying as F, but overall a good bunch.

At this rate, you are going to start a school of philosophy on fetishes xd. I thought pregnancy was a core part of your fetishes since Vae Victis was advertised to include pregnancy from the beginning.

For me, pregnancy as a fetish is kind of tied in with my other fetishes, which are rape and lactation. Women don't produce milk until they get pregnant so naturally getting them pregnant is the way to go. The relation of pregnancy with rape is pretty well presented in your game. It's something that the female characters don't want and so it adds to the impact of the rape. I think it's not that different from unwanted or accidental pregnancy in real life, which doesn't have to do with rape. Getting pregnant makes a woman weaker, which is why in real life they tend to get preferential treatment, sometimes some people would give away their seats for pregnant women and some hostage takers would release pregnant women. It also disrupts your life goals, like if you were competing in sports, you no longer could while in pregnancy, not to mention the added responsibility of taking care of a baby. For a character that is acting all tough and arrogant, that is perfect. They have no choice but to accept defeat. A defeated person may refuse to admit defeat but she can't refuse to admit being pregnant. It's even worse when they realise this is their fate for the rest of their lives, literally a baby-making machine.

I think a character called Claire in a game called Goblin Burrow is a perfect example of this. I mean, the entire game is about breaking women and breeding them but it does a really good job at showing the changes from start to finish. Like, she would initially deny getting pregnant despite seeing her belly grow. She would still think about escaping and continuing her life as an adventurer even after giving birth for the first time. But eventually the thoughts subsided and she accepted her fate.

But other than the relations with other fetishes, I think pregnancy on its own as a fetish in a fictional world has a lot to do with it being a fiction. Getting a woman pregnant in real life gives you a ton of responsibilities whereas in fictions it doesn't. I think it's not that different from killing people or wars that are popular in fictions but not in real life.

I may be the odd one out here but I also like to see the baby(ies) develop as characters as part of the story, which of course requires pregnancy in the first place. But almost no games with pregnancy include that so I think that is very much a personal thing.

 

[daedilus]

Indonesia (2.3), Philippines (2.6) Vietnam (2.0) are really the focus of the Asiatic, particularly with regard to the now offensive for some reason 'Oriental' East.

Turkey, India, Russia, Afghanistan may all be part of the Asian continent, but they are as far apart and worlds removed traditional concept of "Asian" as you can get.

Go to any pron site and type in Asian and you aren't going to see Russian, Saudi, Bangladeshi or Indian. Not a 1.

 

[fyl3toys]

Go to any pron site and type in Asian and you aren't going to see Russian, Saudi, Bangladeshi or Indian. Not a 1.

That's not actually true. JAV has a number of russian models and girls from all over....

 

[daedilus]

That's not actually true. JAV has a number of russian models and girls from all over....

Hmmmm... so Japanese Adult Video.com has lots of Russian girls and girls from all over... Maybe that's an indicator of something? Perhaps because they cater primarily to Japanese men, who have particular fetishes about foreign women?

Maybe try a mainstream worldwide site like

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or any other mainstream porn site, type Asian in the search field and see if you don't end up with 100+ pages of actual orientals... There, i linked em for you...

Nothing but orientals...

 

[fyl3toys]

You can seach for asian and get JAV videos. JAV has other ethnicity besides Japanese.

 

[obibobi]

I may be the odd one out here but I also like to see the baby(ies) develop as characters as part of the story, which of course requires pregnancy in the first place. But almost no games with pregnancy include that so I think that is very much a personal thing.

Actually its increased living costs and lower wages. You're right that birth rates declined as standards of living went up, but it was actually a downwards trend that pushed them into the negative.

In the 90's there was a huge immigration and outsourcing boom, this constant flow of workers has stagnated wages and huge population influx has tied up a lot of people's finances in housing which strains living expenses. This was the turning point in the west, a lot of 2+ countries became 2 minus.