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There's mod that some user released 2-5 pages back. No official unlock yet. Scene replay is in plans that will effectively work as walkthrough though. No eta on that yet.
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I was the review that was critical of that, so my voice may have some small value. I suspect you could adjust that with pretty minor CG load if you just frame that path as Sylvia being more angry at the mistress for playing games, rather than getting angry at you for being the victim of them. Then you can have the mistress realize earlier that she needs to tempt Sylvia first to reach you and you can unify it back into the main narrative with the kitchen forced kiss scene and the couch blowjobs and all that. That pretty much preserves the hook and most the scenes, but just emphasizes her emotion towards the mistress more. You become a 2-for-1 deal for the mistress, Main Character can still be tempted by her, but with Sylvia. You pretty much have all this already there, but it just needs some emphasis shift.
That's assuming you're going for the Sylvia path being synonymous with the loving couples swinging path though, which is the sense I got from playing, but I dunno your long term story plans of course. And obviously that guy you're replying too wants something very different, so it's a tug of war I guess.
(And really, it was mostly just the chastising for the foot massage that felt the most awkward to me, I get Sylvia is 'seeing what she's up to' with her female eye, but objectivly it's probally the most benign routine task a slave could do for their master ever, and why is lying to say I suggested doing it the least cheaty option, wouldn't that be worse? You could just change that and keep the later kiss or pull away reaction the same and I wouldn't mind as much.)
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That makes sense.... to me another place which could easily have a unifying narrative of sorts is after they have their "mini-breakup" talk, since this occurs on ALL paths, ntr or romance. It'd be easy and logical to have a fork here where they talk about their expectations, and if Sylvia is bothered going forward by mc's interactions with mistress and vice versa.
From that fork, example decisions could be:
- "That was a mistake, I wont meet up with mistress behind your back" could lead to a pure vanilla path
- "She intrigues me, and I'll always be honest about our meetups as I'd expect same from you" could lead to a swinger path
- "I'm not interested in her (LIE), and you shouldnt mess with Henry" -> could lead to an ntr path
This would clarify the situation away from some of the critiques you had in your review - that mc is kinda acting at times like a scumbag cheater behind her back, and at the same time would make players like me happy who are frustrated that the more involved swinger variations require mistreating her. I'd love to get away from "ntr path logic" governing the swinger stuff as well.
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The idea for the hook is that Sylvia does notice Jack lusting for Mistress even before that kiss scene, in fact canonically she "gets" it from the start. There is particular scene where Sylvia warns Jack not to fuck around ("something you look at her... like on me"). She just doesn't think Jack will do anything and he doesn't really as there is another scene where Sylvia comments on how it was her that got Jack not the other way round. It is mistress that breaks this reasoning by directly kissing Jack and basically "breaking" the wall between them.
Now when i designed the game i played with ideas about Sylvia/Jack/Mistress dynamic and when i made Sylvia being angry at Mistress directly changed that dynamic a lot, imho for worse. She would have to play role of "police" to jack and mistress. That didn't jive well with master-servant dynamic. That kind of dynamic would suit game more if Sylvia would be MC rather than Jack.
Now, one might argue that you don't need "hook" and it can be just gradual, natural pathway to swinging/ntr/romance. I tried to write such story at start. In the initial draft Henry was actually married to Talia and Jack and Sylvia were friends visiting them and the draft was about gradual experimentation and then swinging ntr whatever.
Problem was that like many games featuring just couples trying to swing it quickly devolves into mindless sex in position X Y Z and there is virtually no story other that to "live". Once I started to throw curves like master-servant relationship, conservative vs open, incoming marriage, henry and talia being friends but not actually in love and how that relates to marriage etc. each of those blocks started to shape story that actually has a flow, interesting events, branches etc.
I think i will go back to that kiss scene but i need different hook entirely that will allow for similar dynamic down the line. Or maybe i will do just complete offshoot introducing separate branch that ends quicker. IDK about it as i am focused on delivering 1.0.
Thanks for feedback
eh goo game good game really wanna know what happens in 0.62 im goin crazy lmao amazing gaming and scenes are too good , but the story is equally good damn .
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there is another mod few pages back that adds save names.
good time, I liked this game only because of the heroine Sylvia
she is very good and the scene with henry just amazed me, it was very intriguing, but there are few camera views, it’s sad
she is very good and the scene with henry just amazed me, it was very intriguing, but there are few camera views, it’s sad
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I really want to like this game because I think it has interesting characters and a solid premise, but I just can't wrap my head around the way it unfolds. At some points the game will let me stay loyal to Sylvia, at other times the MC will act like he couldn't care less about Sylvia despite my choices. It's driving me crazy. The automatic 'break up' scene with Sylvia was especially bad since it seems to have been effectively walked back almost immediately, yet the two characters never discuss this seeming contradiction at all.
But now the latest (public) update starts with the MC lying to Sylvia about getting hit by Iris for absolutely no reason. I mean, I get that he might not want to discuss the matter (especially if he's already in the doghouse), but what on earth makes him think the secret won't come out almost immediately? Surely he didn't coordinate stories with Iris right after she decked him? I do not understand why the MC would waste time on such a flimsy story even if he disdains Sylvia, much less if he's supposed to care about her. What purpose is this pointless drama supposed to serve?
I am just so confused.
But now the latest (public) update starts with the MC lying to Sylvia about getting hit by Iris for absolutely no reason. I mean, I get that he might not want to discuss the matter (especially if he's already in the doghouse), but what on earth makes him think the secret won't come out almost immediately? Surely he didn't coordinate stories with Iris right after she decked him? I do not understand why the MC would waste time on such a flimsy story even if he disdains Sylvia, much less if he's supposed to care about her. What purpose is this pointless drama supposed to serve?
I am just so confused.
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Heh. I think you are taking too serious that situation. I mean it was a mistake. Both Jack and Iris don't want to talk about it to Sylvia because there is no point to talk about it. And if you play latest early access update it plays well with that first encounterBut now the latest (public) update starts with the MC lying to Sylvia about getting hit by Iris for absolutely no reason. I mean, I get that he might not want to discuss the matter (especially if he's already in the doghouse), but what on earth makes him think the secret won't come out almost immediately? Surely he didn't coordinate stories with Iris right after she decked him? I do not understand why the MC would waste time on such a flimsy story even if he disdains Sylvia, much less if he's supposed to care about her. What purpose is this pointless drama supposed to serve?
I am just so confused.
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That requires you to romance Mistress and not get on Sylvia NTR path. It is Mistress NTR scene.
In public version yes. In the early access version though...
