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IHATESlowburnBluBallgames
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Man this mc is so dumb, he thinks the bbc guy is his friend and he saved his job for him, thinking bbc would do ghe same for him?
aint no fucking way in hell bbc is saving you from getting fired, he wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire to put you out, probly bang your wife next to your burning corpse
aint no fucking way in hell bbc is saving you from getting fired, he wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire to put you out, probly bang your wife next to your burning corpse
Filipis
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Man, I love it when I'm given a choice that doesn't affect anything in the long run whatsoever. Sure makes the 50$ for day1 access worth it, don't you think?
Filipis
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The problem is that the choices can only affect that same conversation - and the dev has no way of knowing or referencing what was said or done after the fact to craft a more consistent narrative. That's why you always use flags, for even the most mundane of dialogue options.
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Trasher2018
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That explains so much, why I can see some games and feel cheated on (and not the in fun kinda way ^^).
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This is just a cuck tale. Not my type of sharing. And Darius is so cringe. 
Cade is just another part of the creepy boss trope.
Cade is just another part of the creepy boss trope.
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How did you run it with joiplay? I just selected the exe and game closes itself
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Go to joiplay patreon and download the latest they post.
Man this one hurts a bit.
Overall I think this game has outstanding potential but is still a couple ingredients shy of really hitting that upper echelon of NTR/S games. Starting with the good, this dev blends AI videos with animations more naturally than almost any other game I've seen on this site. There aren't major, jarring jumps from 3d models to nearly photorealistic looking women and these clips serve as great transitions between renders. The production value is also really high; the menus are great, everything looks very clean and thematic. The presentation of this game is just excellent.
I also think the relationship between the two MCs is very well handled. There's clear affection and history, and they have the rapport of people who have believably been in a relationship, which isn't always the case in these games. The FeMC writing is also a highlight, as she navigates most situations with a self awareness and intelligence most don't have in this genre. Even the MC avoids some of the worst tropes of the genre. I love that he doesn't have a micro penis, that he's great in bed, competent at his job and clever enough to think on his feet. Him being underestimated is fine but I do hope there are opportunities to assert himself and gain some respect in the workplace so it doesn't just feel like everyone seems him as a loser, even if he isn't behind the scenes.
Now for some of the things that hold this game back a little in my opinion...
1. Both Routes Cater to Shitty Dudes - As of now you pretty much have a choice between nothing but shitty, disrespectful, two-dimensional tropes with effectively no redeeming qualities. To many people NTR is having the bad guys win and bang the wife when the MC doesn't want it. Some people believe NTS is the MC wanting the bad guys to win and bang their wife, and that's sort of what this interpretation of NTS feels like. I may be in the minority here, but I love NTS and sharing but do not want to share LIs with obvious scumbags. I don't really need or want bad guys at all, and will usually remove them from the story the first chance I get.
I hope there are routes in which NTS can develop with decent people who are attractive and normal, where there's chemistry and relationships that extend beyond characters that exist only to want to fuck the FeMC. Luna is an awesome FeMC and it would be great to have a ton of sharing scenes with her, but I wouldn't want to share an LI with either of these guys. Even Darius shows an insane disrespect towards MC and there feels like too much of a power imbalance. Both of these guys just feel like the #1 and #2 biggest cliches of the genre. The Machiavellian Scumbag Boss is in almost every single one of these games, and they always say and do the exact same things with almost no variation. Even the unnecessarily cartoonish mustache-twirling inner monologues are present, in which they all pretty much boil down to "Ha ha ha, that ass will be mine!" This VN is so far above these amateur tropes, there is already a precedent for well written characters. The other men in this game need a huge overhaul to match the quality of other characters and relationships in the game.
2. Luna's Role in the Narrative is Written as a Walking Blow Up Doll - Almost nobody treats this woman as an actual human and she spends 90% of her screen time as an object within the scene. Cade's whole relationship and pretty much every interaction with Luna amounts to "I want to fuck her." Darius' whole relationship and pretty much every interaction with Luna is "I want to fuck her." Gary's seems like "I want to fuck her." and even Meg, although occasionally having dialogue that feels friendly and natural, spends way too much time explaining how everyone wants to fuck Luna. I know this is a porn game. I know this is an NTRS porn game, but it's not impossible to write a NTRS porn game in which the FeMC has a robust, authentic relationships with those around her that extend deeper than "Their whole existence in the narrative is to want to fuck me"
I think Luna's agency is well handled, and her reactions to these situations is actually a high point of the writing since she is aware of it and isn't painfully oblivious, but the narrative would go a long way making the other characters feel like they have more going on in their lives than waking up to come to work and ogle Luna.
3. Compromising Build Up With Unnecessary Fantasy Scenes - Almost all NTRS enjoyers don't mind a slow burn and really enjoy the tease. It's hard to build up to these climactic moments when we've already seen Luna pounded by both main LIs. Yeah, they're a fantasy, but it's still giving away the visuals of what should be a huge milestone for the experience in a cheap throwaway fantasy. I know the audience needs to be engaged with sex scenes but there are so many other things that could fill this void.
Anyway, I don't want it to come across as me hating the game; quite the opposite. I think this game has incredible potential and there is enough evidence of good writing for me to believe everything can come together well, but I do want to voice these concerns. I might be the crazy guy yelling at a cloud but I imagine I'm not the only one who feels this way. Overall though, incredible work and I'm excited to see where this game goes. With the right care I could see it becoming one of the best in the genre.
Overall I think this game has outstanding potential but is still a couple ingredients shy of really hitting that upper echelon of NTR/S games. Starting with the good, this dev blends AI videos with animations more naturally than almost any other game I've seen on this site. There aren't major, jarring jumps from 3d models to nearly photorealistic looking women and these clips serve as great transitions between renders. The production value is also really high; the menus are great, everything looks very clean and thematic. The presentation of this game is just excellent.
I also think the relationship between the two MCs is very well handled. There's clear affection and history, and they have the rapport of people who have believably been in a relationship, which isn't always the case in these games. The FeMC writing is also a highlight, as she navigates most situations with a self awareness and intelligence most don't have in this genre. Even the MC avoids some of the worst tropes of the genre. I love that he doesn't have a micro penis, that he's great in bed, competent at his job and clever enough to think on his feet. Him being underestimated is fine but I do hope there are opportunities to assert himself and gain some respect in the workplace so it doesn't just feel like everyone seems him as a loser, even if he isn't behind the scenes.
Now for some of the things that hold this game back a little in my opinion...
1. Both Routes Cater to Shitty Dudes - As of now you pretty much have a choice between nothing but shitty, disrespectful, two-dimensional tropes with effectively no redeeming qualities. To many people NTR is having the bad guys win and bang the wife when the MC doesn't want it. Some people believe NTS is the MC wanting the bad guys to win and bang their wife, and that's sort of what this interpretation of NTS feels like. I may be in the minority here, but I love NTS and sharing but do not want to share LIs with obvious scumbags. I don't really need or want bad guys at all, and will usually remove them from the story the first chance I get.
I hope there are routes in which NTS can develop with decent people who are attractive and normal, where there's chemistry and relationships that extend beyond characters that exist only to want to fuck the FeMC. Luna is an awesome FeMC and it would be great to have a ton of sharing scenes with her, but I wouldn't want to share an LI with either of these guys. Even Darius shows an insane disrespect towards MC and there feels like too much of a power imbalance. Both of these guys just feel like the #1 and #2 biggest cliches of the genre. The Machiavellian Scumbag Boss is in almost every single one of these games, and they always say and do the exact same things with almost no variation. Even the unnecessarily cartoonish mustache-twirling inner monologues are present, in which they all pretty much boil down to "Ha ha ha, that ass will be mine!" This VN is so far above these amateur tropes, there is already a precedent for well written characters. The other men in this game need a huge overhaul to match the quality of other characters and relationships in the game.
2. Luna's Role in the Narrative is Written as a Walking Blow Up Doll - Almost nobody treats this woman as an actual human and she spends 90% of her screen time as an object within the scene. Cade's whole relationship and pretty much every interaction with Luna amounts to "I want to fuck her." Darius' whole relationship and pretty much every interaction with Luna is "I want to fuck her." Gary's seems like "I want to fuck her." and even Meg, although occasionally having dialogue that feels friendly and natural, spends way too much time explaining how everyone wants to fuck Luna. I know this is a porn game. I know this is an NTRS porn game, but it's not impossible to write a NTRS porn game in which the FeMC has a robust, authentic relationships with those around her that extend deeper than "Their whole existence in the narrative is to want to fuck me"
I think Luna's agency is well handled, and her reactions to these situations is actually a high point of the writing since she is aware of it and isn't painfully oblivious, but the narrative would go a long way making the other characters feel like they have more going on in their lives than waking up to come to work and ogle Luna.
3. Compromising Build Up With Unnecessary Fantasy Scenes - Almost all NTRS enjoyers don't mind a slow burn and really enjoy the tease. It's hard to build up to these climactic moments when we've already seen Luna pounded by both main LIs. Yeah, they're a fantasy, but it's still giving away the visuals of what should be a huge milestone for the experience in a cheap throwaway fantasy. I know the audience needs to be engaged with sex scenes but there are so many other things that could fill this void.
Anyway, I don't want it to come across as me hating the game; quite the opposite. I think this game has incredible potential and there is enough evidence of good writing for me to believe everything can come together well, but I do want to voice these concerns. I might be the crazy guy yelling at a cloud but I imagine I'm not the only one who feels this way. Overall though, incredible work and I'm excited to see where this game goes. With the right care I could see it becoming one of the best in the genre.
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You dont call the bulls "LIs".
You are right the two burrent bulls are scumbags. Darius is pretty disrespectful of lunas existing relationship. Based on the fantasy scene seems like hes going to be the nts bull. I hope they shift him a bit to not be so extra. Cade obviously supposed to be a peice of shit from day 1 though. Darius is at least the lesser of 2 evils i guess haha.
blkcrow20
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Totally agree. They need some guys that are not assholes/creeps. It would be much better but also it would be nice if MC got involved with some of it. I don't like MCs (cucks) that just sit and watch from the sidelines all the time.
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oh i dont think we need to worry about that. meg is def gonna try to actively fuck the MC. luna already approved you flirting with each other. matter of time for more to happen
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That's fine but I meant for him to be more active when Luna is with another guy. I want him to participate that way.
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