GrimCreeper3

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Sounds like you found this game kinda late. People have walked away, just a few pages of replies after the update dropped says it all. This is a miniscule response compared to the previous updates. People aren't even bothering anymore. It's one of those things where people catch wise. Like when a game company changes their games to better fit gambling mechanics in there. It's not really "creative" decision, people start to see it and bail. Same thing here, the guy switched formats so he could do less each month, it's very transparent.
Happens with most devs that great these games, a soon as they get a certain amount of money that can support there needs they get lazy and do less work or constant remaster there game just so they can say that they are making the game better when in fact they make the game crap.
 

ltpika

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I don't really find VN's that add 5 mins of content every 1-2 months any better tbh.
Now that's a great point, I agree with that. Using sandbox as the focal point of complaints doesn't really cut to the heart of it, it IS the severe lack of content. It's kind of a tragedy because the story he was telling in the VN section was pretty compelling and the content was substantial in those updates. All the forward thrust is gone now, you just a few disconnected when you do find a scene.. Milfy City and a lot of other sandbox games seem to have pretty good narratives and the scenes are long enough that it feels like the story is moving, so it's true that it isn't a sandbox issue.
 

maybemaybe

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Amazing characters, sexually agressive Aunt, and all that under the fat pile of crap that dev intoduced with poorly made sandbox. No journal, no hints, dumb narc as a 'bruh'...
 
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Joshua Tree

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Happens with most devs that great these games, a soon as they get a certain amount of money that can support there needs they get lazy and do less work or constant remaster there game just so they can say that they are making the game better when in fact they make the game crap.
Doesn't really look like Vilelab can get ready to retire anytime soon from Patreon income though. The creator is making the game he want to make, so then we left with the choice if we play it or not. (just as with any other game out there).

Can it be frustrating to hunt down new events and scenes? Sure, but if all people want is something that is on rails with little to no interaction, being hand held from point a to b. Then there is no game any longer tbh, why not just watch some flick on porntube or whatever?
 
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Joshua Tree

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See. this is the kind of info I am looking for when deciding whether to skip a version. Sorry Monique, see you in .006
She bust in on you having "happy time" in the shower.... think that is new in this version. (+1 lust/hate)
Think there is added some "touch and feel" stuff during the night for the girls, not sure.

The getting robbed, buy a gun and the bj stuff with the new girl in that dark street. Felt a bit like "why is this in the game?".

Haven't found anything else in this update.
 

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Can it be frustrating to hunt down new events and scenes? Sure, but if all people want is something that is on rails with little to no interaction, being hand held from point a to b. Then there is no game any longer tbh, why not just watch some flick on porntube or whatever?
I think boiling down peoples complaints about the sandbox issues in this game as "wanting something on the rails" is a bit disingenuous, It is more of "I don't want to click randomly for long periods of time trying in hopes of eventually finding something"complaints.

Happens with most devs that great these games, a soon as they get a certain amount of money that can support there needs they get lazy and do less work or constant remaster there game just so they can say that they are making the game better when in fact they make the game crap.
I have to disagree with that assertion in this case, it looks more like a conflict between the developers vision for the game and his ability make it happen.
 
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Joshua Tree

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I have to disagree with that assertion in this case, it looks more like a conflict between the developers vision for the game and his ability make it happen.
Imho, it's a work in progress, so rag on the creator for not have the "ability to make it happen" doesn't really fly. If you want to judge any game, you need to judge it really by its final release. A lot of these "adult" games never reach a final stage and get abandoned. You wouldn't grab a unfinished car from the assembly line and then start moan about how bad it is either.

I'm more upset when creators turn coat after the wind, and let the supporters dictate creation. Best is when creators stick to their guns and create what they set out to do imho. Then it just come down to whether I like it or not, and end up play it or not.
 

jamdan

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Nobody would care if the game was a sandbox from the start, but it wasn't. It was a regular VN that looked to have tons of potential. Then suddenly it became a sandbox with minimal content, and people got upset because it ruined what they thought to be a great start for the game. Look at the reviews, it began with almost all 4 or 5 stars then it torpedoed into 1-2 star reviews.. Thats when the sandbox began.
 
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Imho, it's a work in progress, so rag on the creator for not have the "ability to make it happen" doesn't really fly. If you want to judge any game, you need to judge it really by its final release. A lot of these "adult" games never reach a final stage and get abandoned. You wouldn't grab a unfinished car from the assembly line and then start moan about how bad it is either.

I'm more upset when creators turn coat after the wind, and let the supporters dictate creation. Best is when creators stick to their guns and create what they set out to do imho. Then it just come down to whether I like it or not, and end up play it or not.
The problem here is that he's remade this exact game 3 or 4 times just to fit this style, and after working all those redo's, he's progressed his plot about an inch. There has been almost nothing happening. Most people who design games as a Sandbox do so with the scenes for the sandbox already thought out. There shouldn't be giant leaps in time required to see events in order. There should be either repeatable or events that take place in order. If the game begins Sunday, and you only have 3 days of content, then it should happen Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, end of update.

What we have is Start Sunday.... skip to Friday because there is NOTHING anywhere else in it.
 
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Joshua Tree

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The problem here is that he's remade this exact game 3 or 4 times just to fit this style, and after working all those redo's, he's progressed his plot about an inch. There has been almost nothing happening. Most people who design games as a Sandbox do so with the scenes for the sandbox already thought out. There shouldn't be giant leaps in time required to see events in order. There should be either repeatable or events that take place in order. If the game begins Sunday, and you only have 3 days of content, then it should happen Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, end of update.

What we have is Start Sunday.... skip to Friday because there is NOTHING anywhere else in it.
I think you will find several other games here where the creator have changed, and redone several times. A creator iterate on his game isn't anything new. Not with hobby creator/indie devs creating adult games, or main stream games with million budgets. The final judgment should be over the final product imho.
 

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I always wait for a game to have at least a year from release and...


You ALWAYS know you are in for a trip when you see multiple tiers of access to play the game like Death Star Trainer. There hasn't been a single game that did price tiering that had a happy ending. They always just shrink update sizes as they get less subscribers. Seems like I will pass on this based on reviews.
 
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Gellidus

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Imho, it's a work in progress, so rag on the creator for not have the "ability to make it happen" doesn't really fly. If you want to judge any game, you need to judge it really by its final release. A lot of these "adult" games never reach a final stage and get abandoned. You wouldn't grab a unfinished car from the assembly line and then start moan about how bad it is either.

I'm more upset when creators turn coat after the wind, and let the supporters dictate creation. Best is when creators stick to their guns and create what they set out to do imho. Then it just come down to whether I like it or not, and end up play it or not.
Of course we can judge it on what is presented to us, unfinished or not, to imply otherwise seems silly. Using your car example, if the parts of the car that where there are poorly made or defective, damn right I can moan about it. Also the Car company sells you a finished already designed product, not one in development.

That fact that a lot of games don't get finished is irrelevant to the issues with this game. I agree with you about the creator "sticking to his guns", my point wasn't that the sandbox was wrong, but poorly implemented, I'm all fore taking a wait and see approach, but not everyone is going to and they're free to do so. Now some people where complaining because it was change from a VN to sandbox, but I got the impression from the thread that its that lack of what makes a sandbox enjoyable thats the big issue.
 
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I just can't understand why I sit in an empty house all day (where is the maid???) There is nothing to do in the school I supposedly go to and anyone I talk to basically tells me to "get lost"... I understand the sandbox concept but if at least we were grinding for stats or something that would progress our charm, knowledge, relationship, dick size or whatever towards some goal it would be better than napping to skip time to do hopefully something else...
 
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Joshua Tree

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I just can't understand why I sit in an empty house all day (where is the maid???) There is nothing to do in the school I supposedly go to and anyone I talk to basically tells me to "get lost"... I understand the sandbox concept but if at least we were grinding for stats or something that would progress our charm, knowledge, relationship, dick size or whatever towards some goal it would be better than napping to skip time to do hopefully something else...
Yeah, you see, the maid's next images not rendered yet so you got to do your own housework (hehe).

When you run out of content, you need to wait for update to come later with more content. How it work with all these "work ion progress games".
 
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