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The_Coomer

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I'll tell you what's racist, somebody wanting to see a black guy in porn just because they're black and want to impose their "superior race" self-insert on the story.
That's on the more extreme end of it. When I made mention of ham-fisting in, I realize it's a common trope of NTR (not my jam, but to each their own).

My point was the characters and story are pretty much hashed out. Putting a random black dude in there would run counter to it and would require some twisting to get it to remotely work (which wouldn't be worth the payoff IMHO).
 

dumpsmailto

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What old japanese eroge? This story goes on in modern day Japan and we litterally already have a scene where foreigners are hitting on Hana in English when they go to the water park. Its not like black people can't possibly exist in this setting lol :LOL:


Well somebody didn't play the latest couple of updates....

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Well that's just what Ero themselve had to say about the game, straight from the horse's mouth that what they drew for inspiration.

Unfortunnately for you I did play the last updates, Hana is more assertive when she thinks it's what Tatsuki wants, if you decide to leave it's revealed she did all this because that's what she thought he wanted and interrupt everything, she didn't even let Yuma penetrate her. Only when she sees he stays and he likes it she proceeds to go further with the idea and tease him more. You can wipe that smug smile off your face. That's not happening in all the case, the closest thing to ntr you'll get will be a less wholesome version of netorase when the Katsuo route is released. Ero won't make any other route so like I said no need to keep insisting and spam the thread.
 
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Nerro

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Unfortunnately for you I did play the last updates, Hana is more assertive when she thinks it's what Tatsuki wants, if you decide to leave it's revealed she did all this because that's what she thought he wanted and interrupt everything, she didn't even let Yuma penetrate her. Only when she sees he stays and he likes it she proceeds to go further with the idea and tease him more. You can wipe that smug smile off your face. That's not happening in all the case, the closest thing to ntr you'll get will be a less wholesome version of netorase when the Katsuo route is released. Ero won't make any other route so like I said no need to keep insisting and spam the thread.
Yuma is already balls deep in Hana when Tatsuki finds them in the bedroom and only AFTER do you decide to stay and watch or leave.

You don't see it as Netorare even though they fully agreed to stop the play forever, because it was ruining their relationship and send Yuma home, but despite that, she decides to fuck Yuma anyway without Tatsuki's permission under the guise of "But I did it for you!". Honestly, that excuse only goes so far.

If it was indeed true, that Yuma never penetrated until she sees weather you stay or leave, that would maybe save it just barely as a Netorase scenario, but Yuma is clearly fucking her raw when Tatsuki finds them, making it a clear Netorare despite Hana's supposed noble intention. Her true intentions will be revealed in her POV anyway, and I think we will be quite surprised to learn she was doing a lot of shit mainly for her own pleasure.
 

Six0

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The whole concept of Hana having no desires of her own and only doing things for her husband's sake is lame as fuck. Not to mention a crutch and reduces her character from being her own person to a mere extension of his will. Whether or not that's her using it as an excuse or not is moot. When you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. In this case, if you make your wife do slutty things, it's only natural that she would become a slut. Meaning she'll start doing those things for her own enjoyment rather than just yours. Because everyone knows sex is a helluva drug and it's silly to treat it otherwise.
 

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Yeah, I didn't mean that, that would be quite racist :oops: But in terms of ntr, its a very popular sub-genere so it makes no sense to use the "It doesn't fit the game!!" excuse. That is the cheapest and most overused reasoning you hear people say every time a kink, they personally don't enjoy, is suggested to go into a game. 99% of the time, it simply translates to "I don't like this tag/kink, therefore it should not be in the game!"
Yeah, I had to add that second bit to make sure it didn't sound like I was accusing you of that. I simply found it as a very humorous choice of wording, I've done worse sticking my foot in my mouth at times.
 
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karlsberg

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The whole concept of Hana having no desires of her own and only doing things for her husband's sake is lame as fuck. Not to mention a crutch and reduces her character from being her own person to a mere extension of his will. Whether or not that's her using it as an excuse or not is moot. When you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. In this case, if you make your wife do slutty things, it's only natural that she would become a slut. Meaning she'll start doing those things for her own enjoyment rather than just yours. Because everyone knows sex is a helluva drug and it's silly to treat it otherwise.
You're accusing her of not having a will of her own and then presuppose what her 'real' actions would or should be. Sex is a helluva drug, but most people are in fact not drug addicts. Our hubby here arguably is tho.
Which is all indeed a moot point, because this is a story written to cater to a specific fetish and character reasoning will be written to achieve it.
Dare I say that what you want is not realism (in ntr? lmao), but being catered yourself.
 
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Six0

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You're accusing her of not having a will of her own and then presuppose what her 'real' actions would or should be. Sex is a helluva drug, but most people are in fact not drug addicts. Our hubby here arguably is tho.
Which is all indeed a moot point, because this is a story written to cater to a specific fetish and character reasoning will be written to achieve it.
Dare I say that what you want is not realism (in ntr? lmao), but being catered yourself.
How? By pointing out how reductive it is to relegate a woman to the role of being nothing but a vessel for what a man wants? My point is, she's a human being, not a doll, and the copium addicts who advocate for her to be one might as well remove Hana from the equation entirely. Jerk off to her husband while imagining he's holding your dick for you. Since what you want is for her to essentially be is his right hand.
 

karlsberg

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How? By pointing out how reductive it is to relegate a woman to the role of being nothing but a vessel for what a man wants? My point is, she's a human being, not a doll, and the copium addicts who advocate for her to be one might as well remove Hana from the equation entirely. Jerk off to her husband while imagining he's holding your dick for you. Since what you want is for her to essentially be is his right hand.
She is a fictional character, so she is by definition a doll for whatever the writer wants her to be. You are saying that in the story all she does is trying to please the guy. Okay that's her role as a character. What you are doing is presupposing that what she wants is something else. Without waiting until the writer actually does her point of view. So excuse me for saying that you're full of shit.
 

Six0

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She is a fictional character, so she is by definition a doll for whatever the writer wants her to be. You are saying that in the story all she does is trying to please the guy. Okay that's her role as a character. What you are doing is presupposing that what she wants is something else. Without waiting until the writer actually does her point of view. So excuse me for saying that you're full of shit.
No, I said the concept was lame as fuck. From a writer’s perspective, a fan’s perspective and a developer’s perspective. Word through the grapevine is the dev burned himself out and is moving on to another game without giving Hana her route. So no, I’m not “waiting” for him to finish anything when he’s already proven he can’t write for shit, much less a woman. All he does is grift on Patreon and everyone knows it.
 

karlsberg

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No, I said the concept was lame as fuck. From a writer’s perspective, a fan’s perspective and a developer’s perspective. Word through the grapevine is the dev burned himself out and is moving on to another game without giving Hana her route. So no, I’m not “waiting” for him to finish anything when he’s already proven he can’t write for shit, much less a woman. All he does is grift on Patreon and everyone knows it.
The concept is her indulging his cuck tendencies which necessarily means balancing the paradox of her doing what he (and the reader) wants while engaging in femdom.

If you want to criticise the dev for not living up to the concept or being bad at it then by all means.

But if you're spouting crap like "if you make your wife do slutty things, it's only natural that she would become a slut", then I will not take your statements about female empowerment or whatever at a face value.
 

Six0

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I never said anything about female empowerment, and I guess the part about when you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes went over your head. The slut part was not meant to be taken literally. You must not have ever been in a relationship where you got your partner into a new fetish.
 

karlsberg

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If by "if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes" you mean something else than "if you ask your wife to sleep with someone else she'll eventually start doing it against your wishes" then indeed it went over my head, but I think the argument in your og comment was clear enough and I addressed it as such.
The reason why you think so is because sex is addictive so the situation feels unnatural.

Silly personal insults aside, we gone back to the starting point again. It's not about the character, you just want her cheating despite the dev saying from the start that that's not in the plan.
 

dumpsmailto

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The whole concept of Hana having no desires of her own and only doing things for her husband's sake is lame as fuck. Not to mention a crutch and reduces her character from being her own person to a mere extension of his will. Whether or not that's her using it as an excuse or not is moot. When you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. In this case, if you make your wife do slutty things, it's only natural that she would become a slut. Meaning she'll start doing those things for her own enjoyment rather than just yours. Because everyone knows sex is a helluva drug and it's silly to treat it otherwise.
Nobody is arguing that, Hana has made very clear she enjoys having sex, but it's not something she would ever put before her marriage. She went down this rabbit hole to indulge in Tatsuki's fetish and she gets laid in the process, everybody is happy.
 
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