The dev still has $0 in contributions. Seems like both sides don't want to support lmao.
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Dev's doing perfectly alright as far as I'm concerned, and he's welcome to add whatever content HE decides to. More is always better then less, please stop asking him to cut content.
Considering he was planning on abandoning the game at one point, I'm happy we're even getting updates. The game's just a past time for the dev now, be happy he's willing to share it.
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I really took the time to watch the game. And I have to say, unfortunately I can really understand why the game was never really successful. I didn't even play until I saw the new NTR. And I'm afraid my impression won't change even then.
Let's start with the good things:
this game has reasonably usable renders, some of the dialogues are good, and the daughter, the only LI in the game, is also quite impressive. Unfortunately that was it.
Now the more negative:
1. The game has no storytelling at all. Everything that happens in the game is aimed solely at getting into the panties of the only LI.
2. In the game there is a workplace, home, school and gym. But these only limit you to a few renders. You don't even see other people there, let alone interact with them. You could just as easily limit the game to a bunker in which the father and daughter are isolated, the effect would be the same.
3. The game is an eternal time loop of constant events through which you collect points, which then enable new events later. That was it. There is no game world, no real daily routine to build a relationship between MC and LI, nothing.
4. Some lewd scenes are quite nice to watch. Most are not animated. And those that are are extremely poorly done.
Let's be honest. I don't even know how many erotic games I've played or how many years I've been doing this. But there are so many games with the same scenario that are worlds better. With a game of this quality, the developer is at least 10 years too late. And I imagine that I have seen better things even then. NTR won't change that either. Most NTR fans are my age, mature. These are mostly demanding folks who have already seen a lot. They value storytelling and arc of tension, the passion of the forbidden fruit, that then leads into good sex. Just have a quick skin and jerk off very quickly, this cheap concept won't get him very far with us. This might work with vanilla fans, and they are also becoming more and more demanding. But it definitely won't work with NTR fans.
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BUT:
The game has much potential. You just have to use it. I have a few suggestions:
1. First of all, the game should have pleasant, appealing background music. So that some atmosphere comes in first.
2. Then I would suggest giving the game a daily routine, perhaps like you know from classic sandbox games. First of all, a complete weekly routine (Monday to Sunday), divided into morning, noon, evening and night). and sensibly divide the events that now exist into these times. The points system can stay like it is. School and work should be from Monday to Friday. weekends free. and of course there should be events corresponding to the times of day.
3. A game world must exist. So workplaces, schools, gyms, etc. should actually exist and can and must be visited at certain times. There you should also be able to meet other people and interact with them. Maybe even make more Li out of them.
You should also use these encounters to give the game a certain storytelling.
4. Last but not least, the game needs a lot more events, including daily routines, to at least create the illusion of a game world.
All of these measures together could lay the foundation for a good game. And then you can expand it as you wish. Then you don't need NTR either, it works perfectly with vanilla. But let's not kid ourselves. It will never come close to games of the quality of BeingaDik, JOHN, Summer's Gone and similar ones, not even things like them of NLT media. But it could very well come close to the quality of games like Bright Past. Could! But the current state of the game as it is now, which is more of a tech demo than a game, I don't see a successful future. If the game stays like this, I'm sorry, but it won't work.
Let's start with the good things:
this game has reasonably usable renders, some of the dialogues are good, and the daughter, the only LI in the game, is also quite impressive. Unfortunately that was it.
Now the more negative:
1. The game has no storytelling at all. Everything that happens in the game is aimed solely at getting into the panties of the only LI.
2. In the game there is a workplace, home, school and gym. But these only limit you to a few renders. You don't even see other people there, let alone interact with them. You could just as easily limit the game to a bunker in which the father and daughter are isolated, the effect would be the same.
3. The game is an eternal time loop of constant events through which you collect points, which then enable new events later. That was it. There is no game world, no real daily routine to build a relationship between MC and LI, nothing.
4. Some lewd scenes are quite nice to watch. Most are not animated. And those that are are extremely poorly done.
Let's be honest. I don't even know how many erotic games I've played or how many years I've been doing this. But there are so many games with the same scenario that are worlds better. With a game of this quality, the developer is at least 10 years too late. And I imagine that I have seen better things even then. NTR won't change that either. Most NTR fans are my age, mature. These are mostly demanding folks who have already seen a lot. They value storytelling and arc of tension, the passion of the forbidden fruit, that then leads into good sex. Just have a quick skin and jerk off very quickly, this cheap concept won't get him very far with us. This might work with vanilla fans, and they are also becoming more and more demanding. But it definitely won't work with NTR fans.
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BUT:
The game has much potential. You just have to use it. I have a few suggestions:
1. First of all, the game should have pleasant, appealing background music. So that some atmosphere comes in first.
2. Then I would suggest giving the game a daily routine, perhaps like you know from classic sandbox games. First of all, a complete weekly routine (Monday to Sunday), divided into morning, noon, evening and night). and sensibly divide the events that now exist into these times. The points system can stay like it is. School and work should be from Monday to Friday. weekends free. and of course there should be events corresponding to the times of day.
3. A game world must exist. So workplaces, schools, gyms, etc. should actually exist and can and must be visited at certain times. There you should also be able to meet other people and interact with them. Maybe even make more Li out of them.
You should also use these encounters to give the game a certain storytelling.
4. Last but not least, the game needs a lot more events, including daily routines, to at least create the illusion of a game world.
All of these measures together could lay the foundation for a good game. And then you can expand it as you wish. Then you don't need NTR either, it works perfectly with vanilla. But let's not kid ourselves. It will never come close to games of the quality of BeingaDik, JOHN, Summer's Gone and similar ones, not even things like them of NLT media. But it could very well come close to the quality of games like Bright Past. Could! But the current state of the game as it is now, which is more of a tech demo than a game, I don't see a successful future. If the game stays like this, I'm sorry, but it won't work.
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Thanks!I am repeating myself but I'm glad that CreaSou follows his own taste instead of suiting everybody. The story could be only good if the writer enjoys it. Those anti-NTR comments already border on bullying, pressuring developers to cater to specific tastes at the expense of the narrative. This often results in a cycle of remakes, remasters and reboots, leading to the game losing its original charm and becoming mundane.
You will never be able to understand a fetish if it's not your own by some means. So CreaSou, trust your intuition, and I'm relieved the game is still in development. Best of luck moving forward.
I always saying - Im doing a PORN game. This is not a story driven vn. Its a game about sex, beautiful girls and kinks. Thats all. I never intended this game to be a masterpiece. I just want to make a game that filled with sex and sexy actions. But, for sure, Im trying to do events that build up a tension.
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Your preference for certain game aspects does not inherently determine the quality of a game. For instance, I prefer games with fewer characters and locations and struggle with games that feature an abundance of them. It's important to recognize that many games are the result of individual efforts, and even the addition of a single character can significantly increase the workload exponentially. This tendency often results in games that are "wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle." It is commendable that developers, especially those with limited time and resources, focus on the core relationships within the narrative and execute them with genuine passion, rather than attempting to construct a vast universe filled with numerous locations and characters that may ultimately convolute the storyline and impede its progression.
BTW I like this game much more than BeingaDik
Take care.
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At morning, when she is standing near the window, choose look at her (or continue to watch, i dont remember exactly) and when she sits on the bed there will be option to visit villa. There should not be a bug cause i didnt touch this part of code
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How do I get triggered by NTR events? I got lunch so many times with Jack, but nothing happened.
(Lust about 800+)
(Lust about 800+)
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in next updates. Its first release for this loop, as I mentioned in changelog.
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The rules are clear in this forum, almost always any debate about ntr vs vanilla is deleted since they are always very "passionate". and in this specific thread some people started saying racist shit so it's normal that they nuked this thread
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This probably will be of no interest to anyone here, but in case there's the rare person out there like me; I went through scripts and edited it to a non-incest version since I liked the fundamental relationship story and events.
Also removed the love/lust penalties forcing a player on a specific path, so you can do either or both and it increases points accordingly.
If you want to use, unzip and merge game folder with existing game folder.
Also removed the love/lust penalties forcing a player on a specific path, so you can do either or both and it increases points accordingly.
If you want to use, unzip and merge game folder with existing game folder.
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When both groups are upset, that's how you know you've moderated it correctly