Ren'Py Influencing [v0.1.17.8] [Golden Crow]

[RasenRengar]

He also has to postpone launching a server for about 15 additional days.

That's what i was talking about, hiring people complicates everything. They're often such unreliable, lazy bastards that can't promise a thing in their life, and cooperation with good working chemistry is not easy. That's why i was also against artstyle "upgrade" with another artist, as was discussed in the past. Well, at least a programmer is way less risky than an artist quitting or rising demands.
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Hiring a Programmer also such a pain in the ass. They mess up your codes and flowchart after a while your codes turn into spagetti and tie your hands to add new things. I mean look at TF2 ( Team Fortress 2 ) They can't add new things or remove, they just stuck in their place. Artstyle upgrade kind more safe i think but end of the day working with a freelancer always a trouble they are lazy as fuck especially the artists. They never do what u asked for and they're always late ( generally i mean, if u're a freelancer artist and offended then do better work, work steady and change the stereotype )

 

[MingCR]

>looks through the most recent stuff the creator posted
"This is so good, I had ot make a Video!"
... you sure about that?
>watches the video
yeah nope, theres a reason why the use of text ai reduces my interest in everything, what the hell was that?
"Everything is explained in the video, but trust me, this is the biggest game changer EVER! It took a lot of hard work, but it was absolutely worth it!"
no
no it isn't
"I will need to push the update release date back a little, but I promise it will be worth the wait!"
no, it will not

 

[izezimaii]

So will it release today since its been 2 days

 

[RasenRengar]

So will it release today since its been 2 days

maybe 1 hour later

 

[kasumi02]

maybe 1 hour later

maybe 1 week later

 

[Míster R]

maybe 1 week later

Maybe 1 month later

 

[Xagih70110]

Maybe 1 month later

Maybe 1 year later

 

[Shdo]

Maybe 1 year later

Maybe 1 decade later

 

[Monki0]

Maybe 1 decade later

Maybe 1 century later

 

[Nartoo]

>looks through the most recent stuff the creator posted
"This is so good, I had ot make a Video!"
... you sure about that?
>watches the video
yeah nope, theres a reason why the use of text ai reduces my interest in everything, what the hell was that?
"Everything is explained in the video, but trust me, this is the biggest game changer EVER! It took a lot of hard work, but it was absolutely worth it!"
no
no it isn't
"I will need to push the update release date back a little, but I promise it will be worth the wait!"
no, it will not

Caution bro, you will trigger fangirls like Ferghus, who don't allow people to do any single criticism to Crow lol, when Crow himself literally said previously that people are allowed to criticize him or not agree with his decisions sometimes, which on this this case is the AI stuff that will not worth the lost trust of people on the long run and losing patreon subscriptions, i'm not saying that he is a scammer, but his actions are starting to create a bad precedent.
If he also did stop giving release dates with such certainty and just said "it will release when it's ready" or "it will release soon" it would avoid all the troubles and complaints.

 

[kurosx]

and just said "it will release when it's ready" or "it will release soon" it would avoid all the troubles and complaints.

You're really sure about that? People would then nag him about a release date, so it would make no difference. (And yes, that's happening in other threads here. "When update?" "When it's ready." "But when ready?" and so on.)

 

[Nartoo]

You're really sure about that? People would then nag him about a release date, so it would make no difference. (And yes, that's happening in other threads here. "When update?" "When it's ready." "But when ready?" and so on.)

When you promise something with a lot of certainty and don't deliver, it creates mistrust and maybe even scamming(not saying that crow is doing that, but it can create the sentiment on some people), while just not revealing the release date can avoid a lot of negative stuff and not have a deadline since also you didn't even promise to someone at first place, fulfilling a promise that you did make is just a question of responsibility and honesty.

 

[RasenRengar]

When you promise something with a lot of certainty and don't deliver, it creates mistrust and maybe even scamming(not saying that crow is doing that, but it can create the sentiment on some people), while just not revealing the release date can avoid a lot of negative stuff and not have a deadline since also you didn't even promise to someone at first place, fulfilling a promise that you did make is just a question of responsibility and honesty.

I agree with u, when promise a deadline it just make u to carry more responsiblities. It increase the hype yes but most of devs crush under those promises and can't satisfy the expectations. I would prefer a humble aproach and surprise the community with more innovations. Actually u shouldn't even talk about some innovations, let them explore by themself and talk about it. This is how u increase the hype. Also We're whining about late delivery but we didn't even talk about his life. Should we worry about him? Maybe something gone wrong about his life or health?

 

[Trapquest]

I agree that it's irresponsible to promise and fail a release date to patrons, at the same time giving some benefit of the doubt couldn't hurt, he may have extenuating circumstances. I'd say legit complaints would be more valid if it were recurring pattern and not this one example with probably the biggest update he's done yet.

 

[Ferghus]

Caution bro, you will trigger fangirls like Ferghus, who don't allow people to do any single criticism to Crow lol, when Crow himself literally said previously that people are allowed to criticize him or not agree with his decisions sometimes, which on this this case is the AI stuff that will not worth the lost trust of people on the long run and losing patreon subscriptions, i'm not saying that he is a scammer, but his actions are starting to create a bad precedent.
If he also did stop giving release dates with such certainty and just said "it will release when it's ready" or "it will release soon" it would avoid all the troubles and complaints.

I'm sorry, who elected you president of the patrons again? If your business sense is so sharp, why are you out here pirating games?

 

[Spamwise]

I am a sample size of one, but I'm seismically more interested in the graphics revamp than the inclusion of any AI model.

The tower of Babel is a useful fable for game development, those that shoot for the stars often plunge from them.

 

[0rionXXX]

The tower of Babel is a useful fable for game development, those that shoot for the stars often plunge from them.

The irony being he has a channel in his discord that is quite literally "babel-tower"

 

[Reinyn]

Maybe 1 century later

Nah this is not like the red room guys. It will happen sooner rather then later.

 

[TheMiddleMan69]

Crow has just appeared on the Discord with the following message:

 

[Umbra.Nox]

Will Golden Crow ever earn our trust back? That's four days out of two... 200% over the DEADline, in other words. Can such thing be forgiven? Or will he be condemned, written into the annals of history as a betrayer of trust, on par with Judas?