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[Defiant Explorer]

What's the update schedule of this game like? Do you have an ETA on when the next version's gonna drop?

Oh, deadlines, my “favorite” topic... I just posted on my Patreon. There's also about deadlines there. It's better not to bring up this topic here. The last time I brought up the topic of deadlines here, a very... let's say, demanding person with their valuable opinion appeared. And the moderator issued a warning.

 

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I just posted on my Patreon.

And the attribute of the month...

Intrigue. In the next episode, a high Intrigue value (if a couple of other conditions are met) can give you interesting and unique options.

Shiiiiit, and i have just burnt nearly all my insight reserves to make an epic barrel roll in the last update.

My poor Selene with her whole 3 of Intrigue, things will just go whooosh over her head, i guess.

 

[Defiant Explorer]

Shiiiiit, and i have just burnt nearly all my insight reserves to make an epic barrel roll in the last update.

My poor Selene with her whole 3 of Intrigue, things will just go whooosh over her head, i guess.

Ha ha, let me put it this way. Intrigue will give the best outcome. But perhaps some might prefer the worst.

 

[Kagarus]

Ha ha, let me put it this way. Intrigue will give the best outcome. But perhaps some might prefer the worst.

Hey now, are you implying some of us want our character to... experience... bad... things

 

[Rinalivi]

Hey now, are you implying some of us want our character to... experience... bad... things

There is a twisted side of me that do enjoy that, but it inevitably fades into sadness rather quickly. Like the survivor intro, there was a part of me that was enjoying reading *that* scene, but i was in tears by the end of it.

 

[Lord Ja'aM of Roland]

There is a twisted side of me that do enjoy that, but it inevitably fades into sadness rather quickly. Like the survivor intro, there was a part of me that was enjoying reading *that* scene, but i was in tears by the end of it.

I personally didn't enjoy that scene (not a complaint pretty sure you aren't necessarily intended too) because I'm not aroused by nonconsensual scenarios where the victim doesn't eventually start enjoying themselves

 

[Rinalivi]

Yeah, like i said there was a twisted part of me that was enjoying that scene. But this is what i liked about that scene so much, it is so well written that this twisted feeling i was having quickly faded into pure sadness for what was happening.

 

[okamisamy]

Let's give the word to the protagonist:
«I'm not a chosen one, not a special, not a savior. Just an ordinary girl of flesh and blood. The world around me is changing. The time of bronze is passing. The time of iron is coming. Only the blood they shed remains the same. Red. Something new is rising to shake off the old into a void. But who gives a shit? All I care about is the difficult situation I find myself in...»
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what origin says this ?

 

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what origin says this ?

Possibly all of them? It's not a direct quote from the game.

 

[okamisamy]

i'm confused about the religion it seems that the true gods don't say don't do that and do this like stealing is wrong or infidelity and forncation is wrong etc and just rather have certain roles

i just want to understand what is the morality and what's right or wrong since religions and society dictated these things

my question is just for pure role playing and i want to immerse myself in the character

Edit : for example when the MC seduce the smelter he says it wrong why does he say that based on what or when you steal from the poor farm the mc can feel bad or doesn't, its almost like im just overthinking this and the game is made with real world moralty in mind

like in the heiress origin her uncle was protective of her not to fuck around, that says whether women purity valued by society or the gods maybe society standards are more then the gods and thats where the stealing whoring etc are bad since there was a saying that said Honor>Glory>wealth

 

[Defiant Explorer]

i'm confused about the religion it seems that the true gods don't say don't do that and do this like stealing is wrong or infidelity and forncation is wrong etc and just rather have certain roles

i just want to understand what is the morality and what's right or wrong since religions and society dictated these things

my question is just for pure role playing and i want to immerse myself in the character

Well, if religion has confused you, then I have created a sufficiently plausible religion.

Edit : for example when the MC seduce the smelter he says it wrong why does he say that based on what or when you steal from the poor farm the mc can feel bad or doesn't, its almost like im just overthinking this and the game is made with real world moralty in mind

like in the heiress origin her uncle was protective of her not to fuck around, that says whether women purity valued by society or the gods maybe society standards are more then the gods and thats where the stealing whoring etc are bad since there was a saying that said Honor>Glory>wealth

Oh, but this question is not about religion. And it is much more complicated than it seems. It is about the difference between the modern perception of adultery and rape and what was characteristic of ancient societies.

Today, adultery is almost universally considered a misdemeanor, and rape is a crime. In ancient societies, this was not like that. Or not quite like that.

In ancient societies, adultery (especially by women) was a crime. Rape, on the other hand, could be considered a misdemeanor (in the case of unmarried women or slaves belonging to others). The severity of the punishment also varied depending on the victim's and the offender's social statuses. In such societies, there was no police force, and it was unwise to seduce or rape a woman from a wealthy or simply large family. This could provoke a blood feud.

As for why female infidelity is a big deal, but male infidelity isn't. Or, to be more precise, not always. It's a question of inheritance. And the lack of DNA tests. The husband's family (the inheritance line) had to be sure that his wife's children were his and part of their kin. However, this could also be a problem for a man if he seduced the wife of someone powerful enough. It could even lead to execution. Whether it was by consent or not was a matter of little importance. And it depended more on the desired interpretation for the accuser.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. If anything, Selene is a young, unmarried woman without the protection of her family. Although in one of Origins, she has a family she can rely on, but they are far away. So, not involving other guys in cheating and not sleeping with everyone is a matter of morality, but it is dictated more by society's expectations than by religion. There is the goddess of sex and fertility in the local pantheon. So the problem is not sex itself.

Finally, how Selene feels when she does things that aren't exactly moral is up to you, the players. She can be a good girl. Or not. And feel no remorse whatsoever. Or do.

Your choice.

 

[okamisamy]

Well, if religion has confused you, then I have created a sufficiently plausible religion.



Oh, but this question is not about religion. And it is much more complicated than it seems. It is about the difference between the modern perception of adultery and rape and what was characteristic of ancient societies.

Today, adultery is almost universally considered a misdemeanor, and rape is a crime. In ancient societies, this was not like that. Or not quite like that.

In ancient societies, adultery (especially by women) was a crime. Rape, on the other hand, could be considered a misdemeanor (in the case of unmarried women or slaves belonging to others). The severity of the punishment also varied depending on the victim's and the offender's social statuses. In such societies, there was no police force, and it was unwise to seduce or rape a woman from a wealthy or simply large family. This could provoke a blood feud.

As for why female infidelity is a big deal, but male infidelity isn't. Or, to be more precise, not always. It's a question of inheritance. And the lack of DNA tests. The husband's family (the inheritance line) had to be sure that his wife's children were his and part of their kin. However, this could also be a problem for a man if he seduced the wife of someone powerful enough. It could even lead to execution. Whether it was by consent or not was a matter of little importance. And it depended more on the desired interpretation for the accuser.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. If anything, Selene is a young, unmarried woman without the protection of her family. Although in one of Origins, she has a family she can rely on, but they are far away. So, not involving other guys in cheating and not sleeping with everyone is a matter of morality, but it is dictated more by society's expectations than by religion. There is the goddess of sex and fertility in the local pantheon. So the problem is not sex itself.

Finally, how Selene feels when she does things that aren't exactly moral is up to you, the players. She can be a good girl. Or not. And feel no remorse whatsoever. Or do.

Your choice.

interesting that clears a lot thank you
well my Selene did go against the goddess sex and fertility by doing it with Iolanta right after she swear in the contract and taking the blue kiss drug + seducing the smelter guy and say hi to his wife just for fun and whoring herself when she didn't really need the money, what i'm worried about is the goddess wrath hopefully she is not real

also how old is selene is she just came of age or in her early 20s can you give an exact age? hopefully she is that young to justify fooling around since in heiress origin her uncle didn't want her to do any of that

 

[Defiant Explorer]

interesting that clears a lot thank you
well my Selene did go against the goddess sex and fertility by doing it with Iolanta right after she swear in the contract and taking the blue kiss drug + seducing the smelter guy and say hi to his wife just for fun and whoring herself when she didn't really need the money, what i'm worried about is the goddess wrath hopefully she is not real

Technically speaking, in the case of Io, Selene could only go against Melea (the goddess of sex and fertility, but not one who encourages same-sex relationships or rape). And it is unlikely that the goddess would come in person to spank Selene's bottom for her misdeed. An angry mob with whips, offended by the “insult to the goddess,” is more likely. And it could all end up being much worse than a spanked bottom...

Belief in the “True Gods” is a form of polytheism where the gods are more like aspects and are not anthropomorphic, even though most of them have personifications in the form of traditional images (as with Melea's statuette). That is, one should not expect Zeus (by modern standards, a serial rapist) to arrive from Olympus in the form of a swan to force Selene to have sex with him. Nor will Thor come to defend her from some giant. These are not that kind of gods.

also how old is selene is she just came of age or in her early 20s can you give an exact age? hopefully she is that young to justify fooling around since in heiress origin her uncle didn't want her to do any of that

There is no exact age because the calendar in the game's world does not match the Earth's. Otherwise, I would have to add a reference to the difference in calendars everywhere, which is problematic for immersion, since Selene knows nothing about any “Earth.”

I imagine Selene to be between 18 and 21 years old. It's okay to imagine her a bit older. But not younger. Please.

 

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That is, one should not expect Zeus (by modern standards, a serial rapist) to arrive from Olympus in the form of a swan to force Selene to have sex with him.

What about a white tiger to pet and cuddle with at least.

 

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What about a white tiger to pet and cuddle with at least.

See the next “episode” of dreams in the future update. I have so much I want to say about this, but I can't. Spoilers... Don't torture me like this. Please xD

 

[okamisamy]

something i'm worried about is not getting to know all the troupe members in the same playthrough for example when you chose between Iolanta and Cadonis you get to know their backstories and get a little closer to them but only who you picked

 

[Lord Ja'aM of Roland]

something i'm worried about is not getting to know all the troupe members in the same playthrough for example when you chose between Iolanta and Cadonis you get to know their backstories and get a little closer to them but only who you picked

By locking characters behind choices it makes the choices matter more & encourages replaying to see more content so I hope it stays that way

 

[XVGuil]

something i'm worried about is not getting to know all the troupe members in the same playthrough for example when you chose between Iolanta and Cadonis you get to know their backstories and get a little closer to them but only who you picked

which means, your choice do matters, and I think that's way better than just shoving everything into the player because what the purpose of the choices given then? it makes the game felt more organic too.

 

[okamisamy]

By locking characters behind choices it makes the choices matter more & encourages replaying to see more content so I hope it stays that way

which means, your choice do matters, and I think that's way better than just shoving everything into the player because what the purpose of the choices given then? it makes the game felt more organic too.

no it means that i have to keep multiple saves and play them simultaneously to unlock all the story content and i hate being forced to do that but its better then finishing the game and feeling unsatisfied because i missed some lore knowing that i have to replay the game again and again and again just to get the full picture
if there would be some wiki that would be fine cuz all i got to do search a character or an event i do love wikis

it makes the game felt more organic too.

no it doesn't feel organic to spend a lot of time in a small group and they all stay strangers(idk if stranger is the right word) except one unless ofc you play as an introvert

 

[Defiant Explorer]

no it means that i have to keep multiple saves and play them simultaneously to unlock all the story content and i hate being forced to do that but its better then finishing the game and feeling unsatisfied because i missed some lore knowing that i have to replay the game again and again and again just to get the full picture

It's your time, of course, and it's up to you how you spend it, but if I may offer some advice... Don't do that.

I mean, playing multiple saves at the same time. The combinations in my game are much more complicated than many people think. If you think that everything is decided each time on each specific combination... That's not the case. Often, a choice you made much, much earlier can “pay off.” And that's... well, that's the whole point.