So breaking the saves is confirmed on purpose? Greedy cunts
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I have this same problem. I played from JoeBanks's save few pages back.
I attach save just before using diadem.
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I agree, generally. Patreon model has it's downsides, for sure. However, see my point below.
Well, it depends. Simple and straight-designed games are easy to develop, especially if you have the right skills. However, here we have a quite complicated project, a fucking mess even, I would say. I don't know the whole story behind early stages but that was sure as hell not a great start, judging by the early acts of the game itself.
You see, it's easier to work alone than even as a small team like this in terms of decision-making, overall design, that sort of things. And they've tried to shove in this game so much stuff that it became too complicated for them to properly sort the shit out and to prioritize. They have the main quest, side quests, puzzles, skill system, time management system, UI girl, enormous amount of items and so on. And even at this point, they're incapable of cutting things out in order to focus on the most important stuff. Futhermore, they've continued to change the game and expand, just look at the latest change log. And they did spread story to two branches recently on top of all that.
Some people might say they're doing that in order to intentionally slow development process down, to "milk" patrons for ages. I disagree and would say the reason lies in: lack of experience, lack of a strong team leader, lack of skills, in a nutshell - incompetence. Despite the bugs and everything I would say their coder is competent enough though for an amateur team. Their artist seems to work on his own terms and it's fine as long as he receives clear and persistent work tasks but I guess it's not the case with these guys. But all that's fine, as long as we look at their patreon as a tool to encourage some people's hobby and even to get something (erotic art/funfiction/puzzles etc) in return (and in our case - for free, although it shouldn't stop us from critisize things). Instead of pretending like it's some kind of serious business and their patrons - a bunch of fooled shareholders. No, from what I've heared, they're mostly happy so I guess they're belong to the first category.
Nah, I wouldn't go that far. Given amount of bugs every fresh version I think it's a simple malfunction. Besides, they didn't give away saves for everyone before, that was patrons only deal.
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I have a hard time believing that saves are caused by a malfunction. After so many versions and chapters and stuff, that malfunction should've been in the past. Instead, this malfunction lingers. If it were a malfunction at the beginning, I feel the devs, competent or not, treat this as a feature.
Renpy is easy to work with especially when you have a decent idea of what you're doing and some idea of the main stages of the project + timeframes. Any engine has limitations and a half-decent developer should be aware of these before starting the project. Shoving more or less planned stuff in just to buy more time until the artist or some other member of the dev team gets his/her act together and actually delivers is a sure way to push the limits of any game engine and with poor planning... well we saw massive AAA games that got the same treatment and people lost jobs (ME:Andromeda comes to mind as an example but there are more like it out there).
It's a shame really! This is one of the few games currently developed that actually has great potential. I just wish I would live long enough to see it completed and bug free.
Renpy is easy to work with especially when you have a decent idea of what you're doing and some idea of the main stages of the project + timeframes. Any engine has limitations and a half-decent developer should be aware of these before starting the project. Shoving more or less planned stuff in just to buy more time until the artist or some other member of the dev team gets his/her act together and actually delivers is a sure way to push the limits of any game engine and with poor planning... well we saw massive AAA games that got the same treatment and people lost jobs (ME:Andromeda comes to mind as an example but there are more like it out there).
It's a shame really! This is one of the few games currently developed that actually has great potential. I just wish I would live long enough to see it completed and bug free.
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Seems that I misunderstood the original point. Malfunction might be the reason behind current-build whatever save problems, but if we're talking about the whole development history - the reason lies in constant core game changing. Variables, structure itself, new features which are suddenly did require tons of rewriting etc. Summertime Saga suffers from a very similiar pattern - devs've made many save-breaking changes along the way. The game became better but there was also a lot of bitching and moaning about that.
I think it's far too late talking about "potential" here. Especially not with this level of writing. Personally, I wish they've done with this project already and moved on.
Can you make chapters smaller (for checkpoint purposes)...
It's boring to replay chapter 5 from the beginning again...
It's boring to replay chapter 5 from the beginning again...
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Why the fuck quote me? Go see OP, ffs. Or search the pornhub for INNOCENT WITCHES.
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You're asking too much, thinking for themselves, taking initiative or doing anything requiring more brainpower than assembling two Lego bricks together (just two, no more) is likely beyond their capacity.
So, apart from being obviously inspired by Akabur's Witch Trainer, the fact that unlike most copycats this one at least uses original art left me hopeful for a quality game. Judging by the comments and star rating I'm guessing I might be disappointed? Is the game bad, mediocre or just okay?
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The low star raiting is based on the fact that the game looks like a regular VN while it's not. It's more like point&click adventure of old times, just with gazillion words on top of that. So, when people (especially not experienced in games generally ones) are trying to get through all of it in order to see some action, they are get stuck a lot and get frustrated as fuck. At the same time, there're really not much of adult content. In fact, correlation tedious stuff/grind/questing to fun/adult stuff is ridiculous. Thus as an entertaiment product for average user it's next to worthless. But if you can appreciate a longread fanfic and not afraid of some point&click stuff it can be even recommended to play.
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I think joe looks good He often reads comments and answers in comments. Although his game will develop very slowly But we still love his game. I don't know why the game developed so slowly. Or maybe because the painting labor cost is very expensive? Because I noticed that it looks like he is trying to include a lot of dialogue and game content As opposed to sex pictures in the game 
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I believe what JackofShadows is saying, here, is "This is a good game, but it makes for lousy fap material."
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I guess you can interpret it like that, I was just trying to elaborate gameplay further because it can be seen very differently by different people.
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Real job and time sink, we have more artists now, we are training them up on style. It takes time to get everyone on the same level. Also, we hired an animator. So it's not like we aren't spending the money.
But there was a process, find people, they submit test art etc etc... it's not just, "Ah saw your art, come work for us"