VN Ren'Py Innocent Witches [v0.11.2 Beta Fix3] [Sad Crab]

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Grompot

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The next update is on track for end of March release. They announce updates every 10 days. Last update was on 11th of March.
 
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paragan

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redlupa said:
A porn game 5 years into development with little to none sex scenes.Milking the patreons are we? :BootyTime:
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Long story: bad design + gameplay decisions, trying to write new War an Peace (or bore people to death), weird story pacing and jokes and amazing art - in conclusion first 3 years you can take as pre-production, where some people who did it were fired.

Now there is "new sheriff in town" - he took red marker and changed many things (reworked story, dialogues, quests, characters, new story lines, progress - still slow ...) But it is like buliding house - once you have walls it´s nearly impossible to change foundation.

From my point of view it would be better as nonlinear visual novel, or training simulator. I will make grinding, minigames and adventure elements optional (some of them are funny and rewarding, some are really annoying, counterintuitive and have really bad game design - daikatana level :cry: that part "John Romero is about to make you his bitch" ). But there are many people who love them.

So ... it is not milking, it could still be great game , but it will take at least 2-3 years (at this speed).
 
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paragan said:
Long story: bad design + gameplay decisions, trying to write new War an Peace (or bore people to death), weird story pacing and jokes and amazing art - in conclusion first 3 years you can take as pre-production, where some people who did it were fired.

Now there is "new sheriff in town" - he took red marker and changed many things (reworked story, dialogues, quests, characters, new story lines, progress - still slow ...) But it is like buliding house - once you have walls it´s nearly impossible to change foundation.

From my point of view it would be better as nonlinear visual novel, or training simulator. I will make grinding, minigames and adventure elements optional (some of them are funny and rewarding, some are really annoying, counterintuitive and have really bad game design - daikatana level :cry: that part "John Romero is about to make you his bitch" ). But there are many people who love them.

So ... it is not milking, it could still be great game , but it will take at least 2-3 years (at this speed).
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In what fucking universe does it make any sense at all to call the first three years pre-production? That's enough time to develop a video game with a budget of $100,000,000. Innocent Witches is most definitely milking patreon for all its worth. You'd have to be naive to the point of pure innocence to believe otherwise.
 
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Oriandu said:
In what fucking universe does it make any sense at all to call the first three years pre-production? That's enough time to develop a video game with a budget of $100,000,000. Innocent Witches is most definitely milking patreon for all its worth. You'd have to be naive to the point of pure innocence to believe otherwise.
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I´m saying it from my point of view. Had own experience, when i was tasked by project which was completly fucked by its leader for years. And now what ? With nearly same team + resources - you can´t send it to garbage and start from scratch. You have to rework it and it is nightmare + you got bunch of depressed people, who wants just work enough to not been fired ...

Technical staff like programmer or artist are innocent, storywriter was fired ...
 
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