VN Ren'Py Innocent Witches [v0.12.1 A Fix1] [Sad Crab]

[Dragantis]

If you look at their discord one of the devs had a interesting defense, they never said it would be 2 weeks from the delay announcement but actually 2 weeks from testing, which only started yesterday or today I believe. So it's actually worse than originally thought.
Oh and then Joe started making veiled threats about adding internet a requirement so if you're not a patreon you can't play.
Just lmao

But they do know that it would be cracked propably in 2 hours and piss of only patreon?

 

[Oriandu]

If you look at their discord one of the devs had a interesting defense, they never said it would be 2 weeks from the delay announcement but actually 2 weeks from testing, which only started yesterday or today I believe. So it's actually worse than originally thought.
Oh and then Joe started making veiled threats about adding internet a requirement so if you're not a patreon you can't play.
Just lmao

So not only are they flat out lying about the release, but they're trying to force in DRM? Joe, buddy, are you trying to lose patreon subs or what?

 

[Zellemate]

These things are pretty common if you ask me, when game devs. / teams get a lot of traction, like Sad Crab have at this very moment and a huge spike in revenue over the last year.... things are gonna change. And typical in a bad way in terms of content, but overall the game will be more polished and better in a lot of other aspects. Also its very typical to see patches getting delivered further and further apart - The typical slower progression. Other games where same problems occur I could mention is summertime saga, milfy city, glamour.... and properly a lot more, where similar things happened.

Thinks could however turn out good in the end, the devs. are talking about animating everything right. But really hard to tell at this state. We will have to see. Crossed fingers from here!

 

[jackofshadows]

are you serious? XD

Yeah, look at this:

Khan is such a cunt, this is his usual attitude by the way, for some guys who haven't seen him here, his common response to any, even slightest critique was like "if you don't like something you can always fuck off!". Not literally but very close to it.

 

[exirock]

Now u guys are starting to see how bad they are, their communication is straight shit they start threatning/insulting/etc people for no reason when people are not rude or hating just speaking facts/commenting or even giving their opinion.
Their are pretty much grown up man/woman with kid mentality and their acting one day can hurt them badly.

 

[Oriandu]

These things are pretty common if you ask me, when game devs. / teams get a lot of traction, like Sad Crab have at this very moment and a huge spike in revenue over the last year.... things are gonna change. And typical in a bad way in terms of content, but overall the game will be more polished and better in a lot of other aspects. Also its very typical to see patches getting delivered further and further apart - The typical slower progression. Other games where same problems occur I could mention is summertime saga, milfy city, glamour.... and properly a lot more, where similar things happened.

Thinks could however turn out good in the end, the devs. are talking about animating everything right. But really hard to tell at this state. We will have to see. Crossed fingers from here!

Most projects that get spikes in support slowing down the release of worthwhile content is certainly true, but it's not like Innocent Witches had any content in the first place. How it's managed to get a spike in support is beyond me, since they're nearly four years in and have one sex scene and one scene of masturbation and one very clumsy series of spanking scenes. The game has quite literally two minutes of pornographic content and it's a pornographic game. So the standard rules of "content will slow down" do not apply here since it was already a dribble of content before the spike.

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

If you look at their discord one of the devs had a interesting defense, they never said it would be 2 weeks from the delay announcement but actually 2 weeks from testing, which only started yesterday or today I believe. So it's actually worse than originally thought.
Oh and then Joe started making veiled threats about adding internet a requirement so if you're not a patreon you can't play.
Just lmao

Thats totally fine by me. It will take prob to the end of the year when their current patreons realize that they will not finish the game this year either. But it won't harm them anyway, cause old patreons leave and new ones come along. Its a never ending story.

But they should add the internet requirement. Cause if i have learned one thing on patreon is the moment you force something upon players they get mad af. ^^

 

[Zellemate]

Most projects that get spikes in support slowing down the release of worthwhile content is certainly true, but it's not like Innocent Witches had any content in the first place. How it's managed to get a spike in support is beyond me, since they're nearly four years in and have one sex scene and one scene of masturbation and one very clumsy series of spanking scenes. The game has quite literally two minutes of pornographic content and it's a pornographic game. So the standard rules of "content will slow down" do not apply here since it was already a dribble of content before the spike.

Well true enough regarding the content of the game, I was referring to when Joe joined the team, and development actually increased in speed for around the last years time(which was also when their revenue starting increasing). They have put "some" lewd stuff into the game, but its mostly in the teasing areas except for those scenes you already mentioned - so yeah, very little real erotic content compared to how many years the game have on its back.

I think most people support and like this game for the very high quality artwork, and perhaps also some for the mechanics and / functions within the engine itself.
And perhaps mostly because "what it maybe can turn into" in some distant future in many years - A really high quality porn game.

 

[werewolfking65]

Well true enough regarding the content of the game, I was referring to when Joe joined the team, and development actually increased in speed for around the last years time(which was also when their revenue starting increasing). They have put "some" lewd stuff into the game, but its mostly in the teasing areas except for those scenes you already mentioned - so yeah, very little real erotic content compared to how many years the game have on its back.

I think most people support and like this game for the very high quality artwork, and perhaps also some for the mechanics and / functions within the engine itself.
And perhaps mostly because "what it maybe can turn into" in some distant future in many years - A really high quality porn game.

Brother its been years. Years, man. If it was gonna turn into a good game, it would have by now. And no one actually gives a shit about the "mechanics", like come on. If you're looking for a game with mechanics and functions, you're on the wrong website.

 

[werewolfking65]

Not even man enough to write a response, huh Zellemate or whoever you are?

 

[Zellemate]

Not even man enough to write a response, huh Zellemate or whoever you are?

Mad?, meh - did not think you comment was worth a reply - Since it just seems like standard whining imo.

1. The team have funding for 13.000$ each month, somebody must be liking what they are playing or seeing?​

2. Not unheard that "games" go over 4 year in a development cycle - Not that this justifies their current amount of content.​

Just saying its pretty common. Even for H-games, you will find many that are older then that. Heck the team I work for have 1 game and its over 5 years old, and not even done yet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯​

3. I'm maybe a rare breed, but I like the eye for details within this games mechanics. Perhaps there are others then me, out of their 2000+ patreons that also like them, who knows?​

 

[Zirael Q]

Yeah, look at this:

Khan is such a cunt, this is his usual attitude by the way, for some guys who haven't seen him here, his common response to any, even slightest critique was like "if you don't like something you can always fuck off!". Not literally but very close to it.

What's that attitude xD This guy is mad lol, how dare you question them huh? After that response he must think he's a badass or something right ahahah

 

[werewolfking65]

Mad?, meh - did not think you comment was worth a reply - Since it just seems like standard whining imo.

1. The team have funding for 13.000$ each month, somebody must be liking what they are playing or seeing?​

2. Not unheard that "games" go over 4 year in a development cycle - Not that this justifies their current amount of content.​

Just saying its pretty common. Even for H-games, you will find many that are older then that. Heck the team I work for have 1 game and its over 5 years old, and not even done yet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯​

3. I'm maybe a rare breed, but I like the eye for details within this games mechanics. Perhaps there are others then me, out of their 2000+ patreons that also like them, who knows?​

So if, as you say, they got that much funding each month, why isn't there any important content added to the game? Answer is, because they get that much funding each month. Why try to hurry the game along when you can drag it out cause it pays the bills? Add a minigame here, add a single semi-scene there, just as an excuse so people don't whine too much. And I, among other people naturally have questions about the legitimacy of their patreons.

 

[Zellemate]

So if, as you say, they got that much funding each month, why isn't there any important content added to the game? Answer is, because they get that much funding each month. Why try to hurry the game along when you can drag it out cause it pays the bills? Add a minigame here, add a single semi-scene there, just as an excuse so people don't whine too much. And I, among other people naturally have questions about the legitimacy of their patreons.

Well according to the dev. team, they are making up for it with the current patch which is delayed. *Cough cough* doubt it will have content in the amount equal to the time it have taken them to deliver, we will see soon enough I guess.

I saw where this was going, idk 4 months ago or something and actually stopped my support even if I have been there since before the beginning. So its not that I'm defending them at all... but I still really like their artwork, mechanics, the universe & idea for the game and hope deep down that in time it will be an awesome H game worth playing.
I can't talk for their current patreons, but it seems a lot really like the game.

 

[Weimn]

IW is pretty much alike some TES Skyrim nude mod with this amount of sex scenes. But Skyrim has the gameplay. IW has swimsuits.

 

[Weimn]

Вы там совсем охуевшие? Или думаете что Европейцы такие дауны, что будут вам бесконечно деньги заливать в обмен на пару картинок в год? Давайте, то, что было обещано, ущербы крабьи.

Лмао

 

[exirock]

Well according to the dev. team, they are making up for it with the current patch which is delayed. *Cough cough* doubt it will have content in the amount equal to the time it have taken them to deliver, we will see soon enough I guess.

I saw where this was going, idk 4 months ago or something and actually stopped my support even if I have been there since before the beginning. So its not that I'm defending them at all... but I still really like their artwork, mechanics, the universe & idea for the game and hope deep down that in time it will be an awesome H game worth playing.
I can't talk for their current patreons, but it seems a lot really like the game.

The game content for 4 years of work its really shameful cause the artwork its very good but he is lazy and since the patreons didnt bother him to make progress on the game he took all the time he needed to make a shameful 2 minute content that had 30 minute grind and u would finish it and u would go like "where the fck is the content", the amount of money the dev took during this years he could have gotten a team sooner, after joe joined the money increased, but did anything really change? not really we still the same slow develop but somehow it has now one scene atleast but most likely u gonna say "that is it" cause most likely the scene is a masturbation and people waiting for years for some action.

The game has everything to be amazing, but the popularity of lazyness and how scammy the project was wont go away that easy, now really depends on the team if they want change that, if they are really focused on the project to make it shine and start listening to the feedback and not going threatning/insulting and acting like kids to the public/patreons/future patreons cause they Rage for no reason and the first interaction to a person that gives a critic on the game they start flaming/insult/etc you.

 

[jackofshadows]

Well according to the dev. team, they are making up for it with the current patch which is delayed. *Cough cough* doubt it will have content in the amount equal to the time it have taken them to deliver, we will see soon enough I guess.

There's a problem which leads to massive miscommunication with these devs. Usually when someone talking about "content" in a context of a porn-game it means porn-related stuff: art, scenes, whatever. But when Sadcrab devs are talking about content they could mean literally anything work in progress: new lines of text, non-porn art assets, mini-games, even fucking UI changes, anything.

Like I said, I'm really curious about upcoming update and I will run game from the start to see all the changes but something tells me that all significant porn-related content will be that one announced scene and that's it. Which would be a shame, obviously, for such a pretty big game at this point.

It should be a proper porn-parody game, swimming in porn: what was that all about forbidden toilet threesome? Player should've at least had a peak. Few possible naked portraits at best? Too little, they should fuck at evenings all the time or something. Casual sex with granny on a regular basis for thouse who wants it? Sure, why not? That sassy bitch who's blocking MC at his cabinet still hasn't been punished via magic os some shit (and I mean facefucked at least)? Are you kidding me?! Etc etc. And all that shouldn't get in the way of the main theme: corruption of the main girls (more like finding excuse to letting young horny students to corrupt spineless pathetic shmuck in order to get something from him IIRC but that's another story).

But no. Of course not. Instead they continue to add more and more stuff few people care about and dragging dev process as much as possible. That "Siserg's bottlenecking" talk doesn't seem actually plausible because judging by the previous updates he seems capable of providing scene per update no matter the deadline: 1 or 4 months. Who knows what he's doing once he's done with it in between.

 

[Zellemate]

There's a problem which leads to massive miscommunication with these devs. Usually when someone talking about "content" in a context of a porn-game it means porn-related stuff: art, scenes, whatever. But when Sadcrab devs are talking about content they could mean literally anything work in progress: new lines of text, non-porn art assets, mini-games, even fucking UI changes, anything.

Like I said, I'm really curious about upcoming update and I will run game from the start to see all the changes but something tells me that all significant porn-related content will be that one announced scene and that's it. Which would be a shame, obviously, for such a pretty big game at this point.

It should be a proper porn-parody game, swimming in porn: what was that all about forbidden toilet threesome? Player should've at least had a peak. Few possible naked portraits at best? Too little, they should fuck at evenings all the time or something. Casual sex with granny on a regular basis for thouse who wants it? Sure, why not? That sassy bitch who's blocking MC at his cabinet still hasn't been punished via magic os some shit (and I mean facefucked at least)? Are you kidding me?! Etc etc. And all that shouldn't get in the way of the main theme: corruption of the main girls (more like finding excuse to letting young horny students to corrupt spineless pathetic shmuck in order to get something from him IIRC but that's another story).

But no. Of course not. Instead they continue to add more and more stuff few people care about and dragging dev process as much as possible. That "Siserg's bottlenecking" talk doesn't seem actually plausible because judging by the previous updates he seems capable of providing scene per update no matter the deadline: 1 or 4 months. Who knows what he's doing once he's done with it in between.

Yeah I completely agree with you on.. yeah all fronts.
My hope for this update is that they are fixing chapter 1 - act1-4 and fixing the teasing scenes(scenes with main girls in underwear and showing boobs and all this) to be more spread out so progression is slowly and properly increased so it makes sense.
If we are lucky they also add more of these scenes, don't think we have seen all girls fully nude yet?
And like you said, I also only think we will see that "one new scene" with Daphne in the new update :S

 

[Deleted member 522652]

Oh and then Joe started making veiled threats about adding internet a requirement so if you're not a patreon you can't play.
Just lmao

I do hope it won't come to that. Their decision, but I personally think that they are getting paid well via Patreon with the current setup and their numbers are rising nicely.

Dark Silver tried something similar with Big Brother / Glamour, and I am not sure if it really worked out for him and his team.

So: Joe, we love you, please don't do it..