VN Ren'Py Innocent Witches [v0.12.1 A Fix1] [Sad Crab]

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Sam Urai

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phpmaciste said:
Lol wtf. So your problem with the game is that it has a linear walkthrough? No decisions for the player?
Well that has nothing to do with things I understand as "politics". It's just to keep the game in acceptable bounds.
Like a book where you're the protagonist, written from first person perspective. You can't change the storyline, you're just in the story.
Another problem is that it's entirely written in English language? Dude you have to train your ability to criticise in a constructive way. Also I think the team will be happy if other people offer help in translating the game in more languages. Maybe this is your destiny?

Am I understanding the problems right that you have with the game?
I see that you did already have them in the past and wrote here about 90 pages ago, a little bit more constructive.
Why not dropping the game? You can't expect the devs making a whole different product because of your criticism. Maybe it's just not what you expect from a game that fits your needs, but well, for others it is.
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As of this point, game dropped. it's apparent that the devs have political motivation in mind, instead of crafting a work of art that is sovereign to itself in and of itself. if you are too small minded to understand the implications of that, then you are too small minded to be involved in this thread; other than asking the basic "how do i do this" questions. i wont judge. as i said, it's simply a critique. A critique for those intelligent enough to understand the intentional design aspect of any and every work of art created by human hands.



Aragnier said:
you are still just coming with broad accusations and an explanation on how you see art. Instead of saying, all art is propaganda, how about telling us specifically what is propaganda, and what message the game, in you opinion, wants to tell us. I really want to understand you queries with the game, since you are the first, I have seen, to accuse the creators in such a manner. I still see a game with a half-descent story about a guy who wants to fuck some girls. Why not humor me and explain it to me, like you would explain it someone without "a basic understanding of human psychology and sociology, current political trends, and the English language"?
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the "half decent story about a guy who wants to fuck some girls" as you state it; is represented from a perspective of the guy being shamed and punished for his desire to fuck the girls; and in such a light as to frame the guy as being a "predator", or dare i say "rapist". my point is, that the sexuality of the entire game is completely politicized and one sided. At the best, shamefuly shortsighted; at the worst, planned. I wouldnt be surprised if the creators were actually american feminists or cops, with internet "Russo" aliases. but hey, that's just "guess work" and "deduction" based upon current "socio-sexual" trends. for anyone reading these threads, who's intelligent enough to understand the demographs of pornography and political inclinations; of which the subject matter of this game is RIPE and FULL of; it's rather shameful... to be honest.
 
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Aragnier

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Sam Urai said:
As of this point, game dropped. it's apparent that the devs have political motivation in mind, instead of crafting a work of art that is sovereign to itself in and of itself. if you are too small minded to understand the implications of that, then you are too small minded to be involved in this thread; other than asking the basic "how do i do this" questions. i wont judge. as i said, it's simply a critique. A critique for those intelligent enough to understand the intentional design aspect of any and every work of art created by human hands.






the "half decent story about a guy who wants to fuck some girls" as you state it; is represented from a perspective of the guy being shamed and punished for his desire to fuck the girls; and in such a light as to frame the guy as being a "predator", or dare i say "rapist". my point is, that the sexuality of the entire game is completely politicized and one sided. At the best, shamefuly shortsighted; at the worst, planned. I wouldnt be surprised if the creators were actually american feminists or cops, with internet "Russo" aliases. but hey, that's just "guess work" and "deduction" based upon current "socio-sexual" trends. for anyone reading these threads, who's intelligent enough to understand the demographs of pornography and political inclinations; of which the subject matter of this game is RIPE and FULL of; it's rather shameful... to be honest.
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Well, first off please let us stay civilized. I do agree so certain point - Sally might be character with rape fantasies, but nothing more, the game is about working around the IMVOIS rules and getting them to voluntarily to play along with his fantasies. I could see an argument, that it could be a pro-rape game, since you try to go around the rules to fuck girls, which goes against your thought of it being a "feminist game". I am not fond of SJW and feminists, but I see non of that in the game, I'm sorry. I won't deny that art has an intent, but I don't see any negative intent. I believe we can all agree, since I seem to be a bit confused about your opinion of him being put in the light of a rapist, that rape is bad and rape fantasies are pretty normal. I am sorry to say, that to me it seems like, you still avoid my question about being less broad, if I just didn't see your evidence then my bad. I see as much political intent as in any game from Akabur, where you fuck girls which are a bit more reluctant to do it, since you seem to focus a bit on rape. If this was a SJW game, it would be all anti-rape or femdom, or something like that. I am sorry to say, that you still haven't convinced be. If you still want to continue our small chat I would love to see a bit more concrete evidence. If you don't want to, fine by me, I will not continue it either then and we can say we agree to disagree. Cheers Mate
 
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It's been in dev hell for a while. So I think... I think some of the reviews are from back then. That said, I like it but it's still picking up and hasn't got enough for people to really praise it yet.
 
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Xandria I follow Walkthrough's way. but no Bonus scene .only kiss and squatting? Is that Bonus scene? Is there nothing else?
 
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Aragnier

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biblioza said:
This game is rated 2.5/5 ?!

Guys don't be fooled by the rating, it's a good game worth the grind, played it and waiting for the next update, cheers ! :)

I rate this game 4.95/5 :D
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Well, you need to understand, that there is quite a lot of text and not much sexy content yet. And that is the point, "not yet". While it is a game with great potential it is lacking sexy and there might be a tad to much text, for some it is a turnoff if they want a game with some story and then a wank. I won't deny, that the game has great potential and as far as I remember, I have it 3-4 stars. Once it gets more sexy I can almost guarantee that the stars will come - it will be a game worth 4-5 stars, if they don't fuck it up with to much text relative to sexy, which is the case now. Just wanted to leave my thought on your comment, cheers mate.

And now it is up to 2.6, so... progress^^
 
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reaperm

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I just glad Joe is being nice enough to polish this turn into the diamond it should be!
can't wait for the actual training/curroption though.
 
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Aava

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Yup, I can agree with Aragnier about 'a wall of text and almost no scene', but I do, too, see the potential of it. As how much are we going to wait until the corruption/training thing reaperm is so excited about, don't know, but until the devs don't add more stuff to attract more audience (and it ain't happening if they add even more text), the game will slowly perish into oblivion.
 
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reaperm

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Aava said:
Yup, I can agree with Aragnier about 'a wall of text and almost no scene', but I do, too, see the potential of it. As how much are we going to wait until the corruption/training thing reaperm is so excited about, don't know, but until the devs don't add more stuff to attract more audience (and it ain't happening if they add even more text), the game will slowly perish into oblivion.
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Six months at least with the current three month cycle
I’m guessing a little more teasing in the update next month and probably start the training with one of the girls around new year.
 
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RazRazor

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This project took a reaaaally long time at the start to get going. I stayed because I reallky like the art and theme. As they said in a patreon post before they will now add more and more juices scenes and start the corrupting progress pretty soon. I think for people who are joining now for the patreon, they will get to see stuff "pretty fast". And I mean pretty fast in comparison to some of us old veterans, who are waiting since 1-2 years to get to this point...
But this game has so much potential and I hope they achieve what they want to build.
 
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I thought I enjoyed this game but I'm starting to gt extremely pissed off with it now.
The first three chapters were the writer wanking himself off and being russian, too many words wasted on being a useless drunk. Most Russian games have this thing where they go in lurid detail: "My name is Piotr, today I am living on beach with sexy babes but war has been hard on our family, we spent six years running away from famine, we only had six potatoes to our name, I named all my potatoes after my dead uncles: Herzegov, Rulosta, Yerovic, Andrei, Yugov and my favourite, Vladislav. Vladislav had small spot under chin where fungus grew, just like potato! Is great coincidence. I still remember sad day when we had to eat potato Vladislav, many tears were shed. We spent rest of week drunk on Vodka and contemplating how hard life is. So anyway that was 3 pages about how those uncles saved my lives and potato uncle Herzegov got stuck in gun. I spent six years drinking vodka and being useless drunk. The tits on the girl sure are nice though, they remind me of my mother's vodka, you see vodka was sparse in that time and only rarely..."
By the time you get around to the fun part you want to kill yourself. And I'm someone that loves the story in these games. I have great respect for the Russian preference to subject themselves to arid wastelands like this,I just don't care for it myself.

Still I thought there might be fun bits at the start of chapter 4.
It started great, there were things to do. However, now I'm stuck waiting until time rolls around so I can get those 200 coins. My refurbished broom isn't good enough to spy on the meeting.
Then there's the tedium of improving your stats. Why? Why are we doing this, does this grant any benefits aside from giving your carpal tunnel?
Luna's questions are infuriating, Hermione's puzzles make me want to kick the creator in the nutsack (why are we improving intelligence if we're not getting any benefits from it in either trials ffs), There was a thing with Susan and cake where I was supposed to luck out and get an ingredient right? I don't know. Maybe I should have read the writer's attempt at War and Peace about alcohol.
It's extremely unclear what you can and are supposed to do. No hints are given and most locations seem to be absolutely useless.
I'm not usually one for a cheat button in games, but man this game DESPERATELY needs one to skip all the bullshit.

The art is great though.
 
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reaperm

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tamerlapute54 said:
i am blocked in the chapter 3 where u have to take the photo to daphne
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have you seen the guide? not being a dick just asking.
you just have to call her to your office and show her, but I think you need to talk to the ghost one more time before you can.
 
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Addictions said:
I have great respect for the Russian preference to subject themselves to arid wastelands like this,I just don't care for it myself.
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I can assure you, most russians want nothing to do with first 3 chapters of Innocent Witches. They hated it so much topic about this game on russian tracker Pornolab was closed down for a while. English-speaking audiences actually were way more positive about the stile, giving the now gone (thankfully) writer a reason to do even more of his bad exposition (he also believed himself to be a unique visionary, deliberately going against not just what is expected of porn, but what is expected of well-written literature).

There are some nice scenes there and and some glimpses of an interesting exposition, so I do hope that developers ask someone to make an alternative chapter condensing everything into a relatively short chapter with no drinking, fighting with Snape and many other cuts. They can even keep the original chapters as an alternative opening for strange people that actually liked it. But if you want to get new fans - you can't just add new content. You have to make it possible to get to the interesting parts relatively quickly while also understanding the plot and setting.
 
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3.00 star(s) 345 Votes