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pitao

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Thanks so much for all the info.(y) Your help is always really useful and truly appreciated. :) It’s kind of sad that IU's story might be coming to an end soon, but at the same time, the next game sounds pretty intriguing and interesting. I'm really curious to see how it all turns out.
Agree, it is sad and satisfying at the same time, sad because I want to keep watching Jade stories, for me it is one of the best if not the best written MC of all AVNs I played and it is gonna be hard to make it better and I'll feel sorry for KN for the most probable scenario where players will keep comparing with new MCs. But it is also satisfying, mostly for the dev because will see "their first baby game" finally raised and grown. I'll be happy too for KN.

Yep it seems really interesting, and you know I love sci-fi and fantasy, and its a dark fantasy, there isn't that many really interesting AVNs in that sub-genre haha. Like a famous sci fi Sith lord would say and is fitting for the "dark" scenario and after a great game like IU: "We will watch your career with great interest" :LOL:.
 

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Agree, it is sad and satisfying at the same time, sad because I want to keep watching Jade stories, for me it is one of the best if not the best written MC of all AVNs I played and it is gonna be hard to make it better and I'll feel sorry for KN for the most probable scenario where players will keep comparing with new MCs. But it is also satisfying, mostly for the dev because will see "their first baby game" finally raised and grown. I'll be happy too for KN.

Yep it seems really interesting, and you know I love sci-fi and fantasy, and its a dark fantasy, there isn't that many really interesting AVNs in that sub-genre haha. Like a famous sci fi Sith lord would say and is fitting for the "dark" scenario and after a great game like IU: "We will watch your career with great interest" :LOL:.

I’m into dark fantasy too. It’s probably the only sub-genre of fantasy that really grabs me since the more classic and mainstream stuff tends to bore me. Otherwise, like you, I’m pretty into all things in sci-fi. I also wish there were more games focused on those kinds of themes, which is why I’m kind of looking forward to the dev’s next game as well. :)

Yeah, I know that reference too. It’s kinda surprising that people remember episode 1 for that line on this forum. x)
 
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Agree, it is sad and satisfying at the same time, sad because I want to keep watching Jade stories, for me it is one of the best if not the best written MC of all AVNs I played and it is gonna be hard to make it better and I'll feel sorry for KN for the most probable scenario where players will keep comparing with new MCs. But it is also satisfying, mostly for the dev because will see "their first baby game" finally raised and grown. I'll be happy too for KN.
Absolutely agree with your point about Jade. As of now, I'd argue that she's indeed the best MC that I've had the pleasure to play as in any AVN. I really love how she's not a good guy in any sense, and yet she feels very sympathetic throughout everything she sets her mind to do. The way she floats and seems almost "unbothered" by any hardship, most of the time remaining calm and being able to assess the situations with near perfection. And also how open and respectful she is with anything sex-related from the get-go. Jade's indeed a complex and amazing character, and even though I've been playing this game only for two weeks, I know I'll miss the hell out of here by the end of the year when the game ends.
 
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It seems there's going to be some bioengineering arc coming up. Something tells me Dwayne is so strong not due to natural training, but rather some genetic alterations from Subject F manipulated genome. It would be interesting if Jade got a taste of this mysterious serum, turning her into some uberfuta and then giving Dwayne an unexpectedly insurmountable opposition.
 

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It would be interesting if Jade got a taste of this mysterious serum, turning her into some uberfuta and then giving Dwayne an unexpectedly insurmountable opposition.
Whilst that's a possible scenario, I'd infinitely prefer if she didn't, and instead overcame him through her own skills and experience.

It's got a good element of tension, and it'd be far more satisfying than an equivelant of "kids in a playground making up new powers as they go".
 

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Whilst that's a possible scenario, I'd infinitely prefer if she didn't, and instead overcame him through her own skills and experience.

It's got a good element of tension, and it'd be far more satisfying than an equivelant of "kids in a playground making up new powers as they go".
Agreed. Between Her training with her Dad and Dimitri, she can take him regardless if he's physically strong. In this instant, I think he only got that hit in because she wasn't expecting it. Kinda like how Harry Houdini famously died because he took a punch in the gut he wasn't prepared for.
 

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Is the Bella/Viv suana scene just a gallery extra or is it possible in Chapter 12, also the 2 Alex scenes?
 

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It seems there's going to be some bioengineering arc coming up. Something tells me Dwayne is so strong not due to natural training, but rather some genetic alterations from Subject F manipulated genome. It would be interesting if Jade got a taste of this mysterious serum, turning her into some uberfuta and then giving Dwayne an unexpectedly insurmountable opposition.
ngl that will be a very interesting turn of event if Dwayne really is genetically modified via serum. Personally I think it could be a bit of both, that Dwayne is stronger than he looks (dude was in the Marines after all, but the serum possibility still exists), and Jade's skewed perception of him being a pathetic man makes her caught off guard when Dwayne punched her.
 

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Amazing update. I really love the culmination of Adam's family part, even though it might not be the perfect conclusion, I feel like this is the only way to facilitate the plot effectively without making things obscure and uncertain (Adam's face when he sees the nightmare is priceless). Stella's pregnancy is expected since KN posted a group preggo photo a few months ago, but it isn't stripped of entertainment, especially for the later revelation of how that works.
 
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Kind Nightmares

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To put it simply — for the orgy scene, Jade has to fuck the entire Rivera family except Adam, including Andy, Susan and Evelyn, to get a full house. If you skip even one of them, you won’t see the orgy. Pretty self-explanatory, really.
 

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To put it simply — for the orgy scene, Jade has to fuck the entire Rivera family except Adam, including Andy, Susan and Evelyn, to get a full house. If you skip even one of them, you won’t see the orgy. Pretty self-explanatory, really.
can i ask something that still bother me,..why u took out the choices when jade was kindnapped? i kow it feels more "normal" but still she still is a futa ,if not "the futa" so why to put her like another afraid girl?and the las update scene was a little overthe top,even to think that he is using some of that frannie's work still a bit little over,i would love to see a clash but not a full over the top the dude is better or strongher,just a bit too much,....would be nice to see bothof them being surprised by the other strength .....and the true i dont want to see a she hul jade in the future,bcs is t he only way to get rid of those ppl,....
 

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can i ask something that still bother me,..why u took out the choices when jade was kindnapped? i kow it feels more "normal" but still she still is a futa ,if not "the futa" so why to put her like another afraid girl?and the las update scene was a little overthe top,even to think that he is using some of that frannie's work still a bit little over,i would love to see a clash but not a full over the top the dude is better or strongher,just a bit too much,....would be nice to see bothof them being surprised by the other strength .....and the true i dont want to see a she hul jade in the future,bcs is t he only way to get rid of those ppl,....
First of all, I didn’t remove any choices. Jade can absolutely kill the people who kidnapped her. If you don’t see that option, then you did something wrong earlier — it’s there.

Second — and I say this to every self-proclaimed critic who somehow thinks they know better than I do — go make a better game.
 

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First of all, I didn’t remove any choices. Jade can absolutely kill the people who kidnapped her. If you don’t see that option, then you did something wrong earlier — it’s there.

Second — and I say this to every self-proclaimed critic who somehow thinks they know better than I do — go make a better game.
Interesting, I also cannot remember having the option to kill the guys that kidnapped Jade a few chapters ago. Can using an old savegame cause this? I always carried over my saves, iirc.
 

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Interesting, I also cannot remember having the option to kill the guys that kidnapped Jade a few chapters ago. Can using an old savegame cause this? I always carried over my saves, iirc.
Basically, you want to break your Carlos' old partner arm (I can't remember his name right now, Dennings maybe?). Anyway, that's around Chapter 6 or something like that, when you break into his house with Viv. If you do that, you'll notice that, before making the choice, the subline text will say something along the lines of "Does every action have its consequence?". You'll then have Jade go down a path in which she will promise to herself that she'll make anyone involved in this whole situation pay, even if she has to kill them all in the process.
This is what you need to do to have the choice to kill your kidnappers. Mind you, it's a choice, you can still opt out of it, depending on what you want your Jade to do, but I personally find it very interesting to do, it adds another layer of complexity to her character and also provides some good and profound lines of dialogue with certain characters.
 

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Interesting, I also cannot remember having the option to kill the guys that kidnapped Jade a few chapters ago. Can using an old savegame cause this? I always carried over my saves, iirc.
No, save files aren’t the issue.
You needed to make violent and ruthless choices throughout the game for that option to appear.

And like Superocco mentioned — if you choose to go through with the killing, it unlocks new scenes and decisions in the game that show a different side of Jade.
 
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