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Kind Nightmares

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What you are making is an adult game, not a work of art, so why can't there be family-friendly SEX in the end?
If you were the one pulling off a family-friendly sex scene in the middle of death and survival, I’d call that a true art.



But… I don’t see a "developer" badge under your name. :HideThePain:
 

youjiecao

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If you were the one pulling off a family-friendly sex scene in the middle of death and survival, I’d call that a true art.



But… I don’t see a "developer" badge under your name. :HideThePain:
I'm not a game developer, but a novelist and screenwriter. All I know is that pure entertainment shouldn't sacrifice entertainment for the sake of art. You can add a sex scene to the ending, but you're not required to add it during the process.
 

Kind Nightmares

UNDAWN: Shackles of Eternity developer
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I'm not a game developer, but a novelist and screenwriter. All I know is that pure entertainment shouldn't sacrifice entertainment for the sake of art. You can add a sex scene to the ending, but you're not required to add it during the process.
Funny thing is, I never said — or even hinted — that I’m making “art.” Those are your words, not mine. What I did say is that this chapter has a darker, more serious tone, and once you play it, you’ll see why.
Also, adult VN =/= brainless porn. I’m just making the game I want to make, and what you expect from it is entirely up to you and it's not my problem.
 

youjiecao

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Funny thing is, I never said — or even hinted — that I’m making “art.” Those are your words, not mine. What I did say is that this chapter has a darker, more serious tone, and once you play it, you’ll see why.
Also, adult VN =/= brainless porn. I’m just making the game I want to make, and what you expect from it is entirely up to you and it's not my problem.
Art is merely an abstract concept. Essentially, as an adult entertainment game, adult content is paramount, and the rest is merely embellishment. In commercial works, strong egos should be suppressed. If, as you say, you're doing this solely for your own enjoyment, then I have nothing to say. I apologize if you're offended.
 
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Kind Nightmares

UNDAWN: Shackles of Eternity developer
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Art is merely an abstract concept. Essentially, as an adult entertainment game, adult content is paramount, and the rest is merely embellishment. In commercial works, strong egos should be suppressed. If, as you say, you're doing this solely for your own enjoyment, then I have nothing to say. I apologize if you're offended.
To be honest, it would take way more than a random “expert” voice on a pirate forum hinting that my ego’s too big to actually offend me.
And really, there’s nothing left to discuss — you see “adult” as nothing but sex and entertainment, and you think devs should bend to every complaint.
(But somehow I’m the one with the ego problem?) :HideThePain:
 

Kontralta

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Art is merely an abstract concept. Essentially, as an adult entertainment game, adult content is paramount, and the rest is merely embellishment. In commercial works, strong egos should be suppressed. If, as you say, you're doing this solely for your own enjoyment, then I have nothing to say. I apologize if you're offended.
As Stan Lee said, what the author creates must first of all please the author himself. It is impossible to please everyone, but there can always be people with the same tastes as the author. This is the difference between a creative work and a commercial product.
 

AdaWongLina

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What you are making is an adult game, not a work of art, so why can't there be family-friendly SEX in the end?
Please respect and acknowledge every game developer:FacePalm:

Funny thing is, I never said — or even hinted — that I’m making “art.” Those are your words, not mine. What I did say is that this chapter has a darker, more serious tone, and once you play it, you’ll see why.
Also, adult VN =/= brainless porn. I’m just making the game I want to make, and what you expect from it is entirely up to you and it's not my problem.
As Stan Lee said, what the author creates must first of all please the author himself. It is impossible to please everyone, but there can always be people with the same tastes as the author. This is the difference between a creative work and a commercial product.
The author, and this guy, you are all absolutely right. Whether it is a normal game or an adult game, the most important thing is for the author to create their own game story plot. The first step is to satisfy their own imagination, development, and the process and results of advancing the plot, followed by the feedback from the players. However, you cannot erase the way the author wants to express their story.:BootyTime:
 

Avaron1974

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Would we all want sex in an update, absolutely. Watching Jade do her thing is one of the reasons we play the game.

ONE of the reasons.

The other is to see what happens in the story and how it all ends for the characters we've got to know.

With this wrapping up and an end that's looking to be emotional and dramatic, I think we have more than enough going on to carry us through the finale. All of the girls have had their time in the sheets and if you play from start to finish then you won't even notice the lack of fuckening at the end.

I may be biased as i've turned into a bit of a fangirl for this game and dev but i'm more interested in seeing how it all ends and what the future will look like for Jade and her girls once the dust settles. If that means I don't get to see any new sex scenes then so be it.

I'll get more than enough happiness seeing the end of a certain mouthy little cockwomble.
 

Kind Nightmares

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Would we all want sex in an update, absolutely. Watching Jade do her thing is one of the reasons we play the game.

ONE of the reasons.

The other is to see what happens in the story and how it all ends for the characters we've got to know.

With this wrapping up and an end that's looking to be emotional and dramatic, I think we have more than enough going on to carry us through the finale. All of the girls have had their time in the sheets and if you play from start to finish then you won't even notice the lack of fuckening at the end.

I may be biased as i've turned into a bit of a fangirl for this game and dev but i'm more interested in seeing how it all ends and what the future will look like for Jade and her girls once the dust settles. If that means I don't get to see any new sex scenes then so be it.

I'll get more than enough happiness seeing the end of a certain mouthy little cockwomble.
You’ve been here since the very start, and honestly, seeing your comments popping up always puts a grin on my face. Been so long that I think I’ve turned into a bit of your fangirl too, just don’t tell anyone.
And as for a certain “mouthy little cockwomble,” don’t worry, I gotchu.



Random thought though, I still remember the very first negative review this game ever got. Back then I read every single comment here in the thread and took it way too personally. The main complaint was “Too much sex.”

Well...
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MAGO-DAG

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As they say: came for the porn, stayed for the story!

It's sad to hear that the story is coming to an end, but reading some comments, we can understand some complaints about the lack of a sex scene in the final, but this is the developer's personal business and we should respect it...

I am also a fan when there are scenes in the harems at the end or something like that, but in this case, I don't see that in the middle of a dark plot twist, out of nowhere, a lot of sex scenes appeared, we already got enough scenes before that.

Looking forward to the last final update, it was really a great journey,I've been here almost since the first release and the developer really created an amazing futanari fantasy and good luck, Kind Nightmares
 

Farspire

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You’ve been here since the very start, and honestly, seeing your comments popping up always puts a grin on my face. Been so long that I think I’ve turned into a bit of your fangirl too, just don’t tell anyone.
And as for a certain “mouthy little cockwomble,” don’t worry, I gotchu.



Random thought though, I still remember the very first negative review this game ever got. Back then I read every single comment here in the thread and took it way too personally. The main complaint was “Too much sex.”

Well...
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As previously stated Kind, everyone has their own opinion... they are entitled to them. You cant appease everyone first and foremost make something YOU are proud of, something YOU want. Those of us that enjoy it will come back for every chapter as we have from chapter one, while those that dislike it you DONT have to play it. If its not your cup of tea move on to something that is, leave those that love a good story to enjoy the journey.

Take everyone's comment with a grain of salt as you are. Those of us that love the journey of Jade will savor the story and I hope your next story will continue to do just that. From what you have teased us with so far it looks phenomenal. Enjoy the work you share with the rest of us who enjoy it and perhaps simply cant make stories of our own to share.
 

AdaWongLina

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Final Chapter Release Dates.

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Changelog:
1334 renders
~12000 words
No sex scenes.

As promised, I’ve added a written walkthrough to the game folder for everyone.
Use it if you feel like your choices didn’t lead to the outcome you were hoping for. And remember: it’s just a game, so don’t stress over it — your comfort always comes first.
 

B.W.H

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Final Chapter Release Dates.

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Changelog:
1334 renders
~12000 words
No sex scenes.

As promised, I’ve added a written walkthrough to the game folder for everyone.
Use it if you feel like your choices didn’t lead to the outcome you were hoping for. And remember: it’s just a game, so don’t stress over it — your comfort always comes first.
No sex scenes WHAT?
 

Geboo

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Final Chapter Release Dates.

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Changelog:
1334 renders
~12000 words
No sex scenes.

As promised, I’ve added a written walkthrough to the game folder for everyone.
Use it if you feel like your choices didn’t lead to the outcome you were hoping for. And remember: it’s just a game, so don’t stress over it — your comfort always comes first.
Hmm, let me preface this by saying I loved and still love this game, and I supported this project financially. But why not include sex scenes? Isn't that a little strange for an adult video game?:unsure:
 

Kind Nightmares

UNDAWN: Shackles of Eternity developer
Game Developer
Oct 1, 2019
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Final Chapter Release Dates.

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Changelog:
1334 renders
~12000 words
No sex scenes.

As promised, I’ve added a written walkthrough to the game folder for everyone.
Use it if you feel like your choices didn’t lead to the outcome you were hoping for. And remember: it’s just a game, so don’t stress over it — your comfort always comes first.
Man, this fucking dev’s lost it.
No sex scenes? Bruh, game’s complete trash now. Hand it over, I’ll show you how it’s done... done... DONE! :HideThePain:
 
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