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TheMagicalGurl

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This feels at home for me and definitely has the Asia Argento seal of approval... Dominant futanari protag who makes men look inferior to her... Keep up the great work, fellow gigachad futanari dev. <3
 
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damnedfrog

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Time isn't going to change anything, they aren't futa.

Both of them are male.
They are born male.
But they can transitioning. With hormonal treatment and minor surgeries.
But without going up to a complete reassignment surgery. Keeping their penis and testicles, while having boobs and a feminine face and overall body.
So they will look like futanari, minus the height and more muscular body.
But Kind Nightmares state here that not all the futanaris look like Jade with an amazon body. Some have more delicate figure.

The remaining question is: is there a chance that Sam and/or Andy will become pre-op transwomen.
It seems to me it won't be the case for Andy. Like others write, I think it will just become a Sissy.
But I think Sam could. If Jade is right and deep down he feel he is a girl, he could start a transition.
If so, I hope we will have an option to keep him as a pre-op transwoman.
 

Snugglepuff

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They are born male.
But they can transitioning.
Which is not futanari.
At least not for a long, long time, and even when it was considered as being under the futa niche for hentai it was still a hotly debated subject.

Basically, either through magical/weird science/existing as a third gender/sex, women or hermaphrodites with both sets of genitals. Testes optional depending on the author.
 

WeilBaum

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Futanari is not trans, they cannot be equated. Jade was born as a futanari.
Maybe not but they look similar or the same and we could also discuss whether the term futanari is even appropriate for Jade but that wasn't the point originally but whether Sam is intended to be a transgender in the game and will possibly go through a full transition into a woman.
 
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Kontralta

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Maybe not but they look similar or the same and we could also discuss whether the term futanari is even appropriate for Jade but that wasn't the point originally but whether Sam is intended to be a transgender in the game and will possibly go through a full transition into a woman.
They are not the same. In this game, futanari are like a new race that was created by scientists. Jade is a futanari, not a trans.
 

Kontralta

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who said anything about jade beeing trans?
You equate trans and futanari. And you say it's open to discuss whether the term "futanari" is appropriate for Jade, as if you're suggesting that she might not be a futanari. Perhaps I misunderstood, English is not my native language.
 

WeilBaum

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You equate trans and futanari. And you say it's open to discuss whether the term "futanari" is appropriate for Jade, as if you're suggesting that she might not be a futanari. Perhaps I misunderstood, English is not my native language.
I didn't equate Futanari with Trans, I said they look similar ingame. And I said we could discuss if the term Futanari is correct
 

damnedfrog

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Futanari is not trans, they cannot be equated. Jade was born as a futanari.
They are not the same. In this game, futanari are like a new race that was created by scientists. Jade is a futanari, not a trans.
Yes I know that in this world, futanari were created by scientist.
And a pre-op transwoman would not be one stricto sensus.

But, it's the same debate that IRL with post-op transwomen.
They where not born futanari. But after some operation they a pre-op woman would look like an futanari. And in her(his/their?) mind, she could see her like one.
So how society will consider them?
I suppose it would be the same that like with post-op transwomen IRL, depends on how open-minded you are.

Anyway, like WeilBaum write
Maybe not but they look similar or the same and we could also discuss whether the term futanari is even appropriate for Jade but that wasn't the point originally but whether Sam is intended to be a transgender in the game and will possibly go through a full transition into a woman.
all the point was if Sam could transitioning.
And if so, will there be an option to stop the full transition.
 

damnedfrog

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I can agree about Andy but not going to lie, i find this a bit strange with all the dialogue implying the Sam wants to be a woman. :unsure:
Sam didn't says that (yet).
But Jade said to Alex
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So, it's open the question: will Sam can transition?
And if so, can we have an option to keep him a pre-op transwoman.

And then, I don't really understand why, but a discussion arise about futanari vs transwomen :)
 

Kontralta

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I didn't equate Futanari with Trans, I said they look similar ingame. And I said we could discuss if the term Futanari is correct
You sais "they look similar or the same".
Term is correct. It's used in the game.
 
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Kontralta

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Yes I know that in this world, futanari were created by scientist.
And a pre-op transwoman would not be one stricto sensus.

But, it's the same debate that IRL with post-op transwomen.
They where not born futanari. But after some operation they a pre-op woman would look like an futanari. And in her(his/their?) mind, she could see her like one.
So how society will consider them?
I suppose it would be the same that like with post-op transwomen IRL, depends on how open-minded you are.
We're not talking about IRL, we're talking about a game. In this game, futanari have a certain meaning - genetically created women with dick. Nothing else.
 

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Since there is a discussion, here's a question that I don't think the game (the intro at least doesn't) gives a definite answer to: do the futanari from this world have both genitals or just the penis with the accompanying internal organs? Because Susan wanted Jade to be a woman and be with a man and stuff, which could imply she has the capability to get pregnant. Some screenshots from the doctor scene suggest Jade doesn't have a vagina, but I suppose we'll probably only know for sure when she sleeps with the other futa.
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WeilBaum

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This is Sam with Jade. Jade is an ingame futa. Are you really saying that if Sam would start transition (taking female hormones, getting more toned breasts etc) she won't look like an ingame futanari?

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Knight_of_the_lance

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We're not talking about IRL, we're talking about a game. In this game, futanari have a certain meaning - genetically created women with dick. Nothing else.
Except Futanari in this game are not only women with dicks. They are also Taller than even the average man and stronger too. If I remember correctly the difference between a Futanari and a man is roughly the same than between a man and a normal woman. Also AFAIK Jade identify herself with female pronouns. So both Futanari and woman use feminine pronouns. If Sam decide to become Samantha he would start to also use feminine pronouns. Whether in his transition his physiology is nearer that of a woman or a futanari it is for Kind Nightmare to decide. Could a pre-op Sam be mistaken for a futanari rather than a trans woman in universe? Definitely since both would be so rare in their world while similar. That discussion is going nowhere.

All that talk about Trans women existing in a universe where Futanari also exist got me thinking about hormones. Female fertility medicine AFAIK, which is admittedly as much as your neighbor, is also hormones. Is it possible that those have a special interaction with Futanari specific hormones during puberty? And that is why other Futanaris might be built more like normal woman and have an easier time passing as such? If they went to that special school where they would get treatment without their consent or knowledge that could explain why Jade that got hidden from everyone since her birth passed through the net. We could easily explain Stella's physical shape if she is indeed a futanari that got through that school that way.


Since there is a discussion, here's a question that I don't think the game (the intro at least doesn't) gives a definite answer to: do the futanari from this world have both genitals or just the penis with the accompanying internal organs? Because Susan wanted Jade to be a woman and be with a man and stuff, which could imply she has the capability to get pregnant. Some screenshots from the doctor scene suggest Jade doesn't have a vagina, but I suppose we'll probably only know for sure when she sleeps with the other futa.
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It already has been confirmed that Jade has only one set of genitalia. that just makes more reasons to find her mother more sick in the head and show her no mercy.
 
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