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Superocco

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Chapter 13 Release Dates.

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Changelog:
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39 animations.

Viv’s getting the first bad ending—one that’s fully based on the choices you made in earlier chapters.
I never promised some “happily ever after” fairytale. Sometimes, if you want something to last, you gotta get your hands dirty.
And if you weren’t willing to go that far, don’t be surprised you didn’t get your perfect little “harem ending.”
Bella enjoyers finally getting spoiled, LET'S FUCKING GO!
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TangerineTango

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I know Chapter 13 is coming out soon and what not but I just finished Chapter 12 and I got a few Questions

1. Why did Adam just suddenly act that way? Did he just have a full blown mental breakdown or something hence why he just accepted everything? I love the orgy but idk if its just me but I kinda feels rushed?

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2. What's the leading theory as to why the black guy (forgot his name), was stronger than jade? My best guess he's a genetic experiment like the futanari. Also, does this mean there will be a future submissive path for Jade with him or something?
 

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Chapter 13 Release Dates.

View attachment 5063714

Changelog:
1224 renders
~7200 words
4 sex scenes (1 thresome with Bella and Viv, solo scenes with Angie, Bella and Ivy )
39 animations.

Viv’s getting the first bad ending—one that’s fully based on the choices you made in earlier chapters.
I never promised some “happily ever after” fairytale. Sometimes, if you want something to last, you gotta get your hands dirty.
And if you weren’t willing to go that far, don’t be surprised you didn’t get your perfect little “harem ending.”
Am I the only one who's more excited about Jade going berserk than the sex scenes? Anyone? Just me?
 

Superocco

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I know Chapter 13 is coming out soon and what not but I just finished Chapter 12 and I got a few Questions

1. Why did Adam just suddenly act that way? Did he just have a full blown mental breakdown or something hence why he just accepted everything? I love the orgy but idk if its just me but I kinda feels rushed?

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2. What's the leading theory as to why the black guy (forgot his name), was stronger than jade? My best guess he's a genetic experiment like the futanari. Also, does this mean there will be a future submissive path for Jade with him or something?
1. Yes, it's implied (at least I think so) that Adam goes through a several mental breakdown at that moment. It's less about him accepting the orgy and more about the fact that he completely shuts off mentally, meaning that he hasn't really processed anything that was going on. I'm guessing we'll see some consequences in Chapter 13 and the aftermath of his sanity.

2. It looks like he has gone through some sort of genetic enhancement, yes, but we still don't know exactly what's in his body and how he got an apparently superhuman strength. However, about the submissive path you mentioned, you can discard that idea immediately. Jade is dominant by nature and she will never succumb to be under anyone, least of all under an asshole like him. Moreover, there won't be anymore new paths in the game, only endings and conclusions, as we have only two chapters left.
 

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Am I the only one who's more excited about Jade going berserk than the sex scenes? Anyone? Just me?
I'm on the same boat. Also, I'm going to be totally honest with you, and this might sound weird, but sex scenes are rarely the main reason why I play AVNs. Sure, they're fundamental and important depending on how they're handled, but I enjoy more the liberty of some devs to create certain stories without certain barriers under the umbrella of an AVN. Also, I'm a sucker for romance, so I usually like even more the interactions between LIs while getting to know each other and falling in love, than the sex itself. It's one of the reasons why I enjoy IU so much. Yes, it has a bunch of sex scenes, all in good taste, but it heavily relies on developing the relationships and its story, which makes it easier to feel invested.
 

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What do we think the choices are for Viv's possible bad ending referring to?
It'll definitely have to do with the fact if you killed the kidnappers or not. Of course, that option is only available if you break Carlos' old partner. Still, even if you did do it, you can still choose not to kill them, and that's surely what Kind Nightmares meant with getting Jade's hands dirty. I obviously did all of that in my main PT and that's what I'll stick to, but I'll surely add the variant of a "pacifist" Jade run in a different one to see what the outcome is with Viv and in the final chapter.
 

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I'm on the same boat. Also, I'm going to be totally honest with you, and this might sound weird, but sex scenes are rarely the main reason why I play AVNs. Sure, they're fundamental and important depending on how they're handled, but I enjoy more the liberty of some devs to create certain stories without certain barriers under the umbrella of an AVN. Also, I'm a sucker for romance, so I usually like even more the interactions between LIs while getting to know each other and falling in love, than the sex itself. It's one of the reasons why I enjoy IU so much. Yes, it has a bunch of sex scenes, all in good taste, but it heavily relies on developing the relationships and its story, which makes it easier to feel invested.
That's right, the story should be the backbone of the scenes. I think the context gives the sex scenes impact and makes you want to see more of them; otherwise, it would just be porn.

What do we think the choices are for Viv's possible bad ending referring to?
I think it's obvious that opening up Jade's feelings to Viv will be key to having a good ending with her. Personally, I'm roleplaying a Jade who isn't afraid to get her hands dirty to protect those she loves, and I hope that helps in the end.
 

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We've gotten a lot of the threesomes and group sex scenes that were built up (Jade-Mia-Ivy, Jade-Ashley-Julie, Jade-Family, etc.) and the next built-up one will be in Chapter 13 (Jade-Bella-Viv), but the one that hasn't been hinted at is Jade-Bella-Maria. I don't think Bella and Maria even know that they are both sleeping with Jade now. Since it won't be in Chapter 13, and Chapter 14 is the last, what is the likelihood this threesome will happen?
 
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We've gotten a lot of the threesomes and group sex scenes that were built up (Jade-Mia-Ivy, Jade-Ashley-Julie, Jade-Family, etc.) and the next built-up one will be in Chapter 13 (Jade-Bella-Viv), but the one that hasn't been hinted at is Jade-Bella-Maria. I don't think Bella and Maria even know that they are both sleeping with Jade now. Since it won't be in Chapter 13, and Chapter 14 is the last, what is the likelihood this threesome will happen?
None.
They love each other, but only like a mother and daughter.
 

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None.
They love each other, but only like a mother and daughter.
I appreciate the answer, honestly didn't expect to get one (especially so fast haha).
Do you mind me asking why out of all the family members getting intimate with each other you decided they wouldn't be a part of it? Just curious about it, not upset of anything. Will they at least know about them and Jade or does it not matter if they know about each other or not?
 

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I appreciate the answer, honestly didn't expect to get one (especially so fast haha).
Do you mind me asking why out of all the family members getting intimate with each other you decided they wouldn't be a part of it? Just curious about it, not upset of anything. Will they at least know about them and Jade or does it not matter if they know about each other or not?
I always stick to character logic and motivation.
Maria was in a happy marriage and loved Bella’s father. I didn’t talk about him much, but I hope that still comes through as you play. Same goes for Bella—she loved her dad.

Also, Maria’s deeply religious. Her relationship with Jade already feels like a sin she barely allowed herself to commit. Going even further—with her own daughter? That’s a line she simply wouldn’t cross.

And just to be clear, her thing with Jade isn’t really a romance—it’s more like a way to feel alive again. And Jade? She’s more than happy to help with that.

So yeah, Maria and Bella ending up in bed together? Pretty much impossible.
 

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I always stick to character logic and motivation.
Maria was in a happy marriage and loved Bella’s father. I didn’t talk about him much, but I hope that still comes through as you play. Same goes for Bella—she loved her dad.

Also, Maria’s deeply religious. Her relationship with Jade already feels like a sin she barely allowed herself to commit. Going even further—with her own daughter? That’s a line she simply wouldn’t cross.

And just to be clear, her thing with Jade isn’t really a romance—it’s more like a way to feel alive again. And Jade? She’s more than happy to help with that.

So yeah, Maria and Bella ending up in bed together? Pretty much impossible.
Thanks for clearing that up. It does come across in the game that Maria's husband/Bella's dad was a great guy who they loved and respected. Jade talks about him in a positive way too.
You said that Maria being with Jade is like a "sin she barely allowed herself to commit". That makes sense, and it's hot in its own way. A follow-up question I have, since you've taken the time to answer my questions, is do you believe Maria would be okay with her daughter and niece being together if she knew/when she finds out?
 

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Thanks for clearing that up. It does come across in the game that Maria's husband/Bella's dad was a great guy who they loved and respected. Jade talks about him in a positive way too.
You said that Maria being with Jade is like a "sin she barely allowed herself to commit". That makes sense, and it's hot in its own way. A follow-up question I have, since you've taken the time to answer my questions, is do you believe Maria would be okay with her daughter and niece being together if she knew/when she finds out?
You’ll get your answer in this chapter.
 

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Damn, how are there barely any games like this? As a guy I'm attracted to women of many types. I'm not too good at self insert thing so playing as a male character and seeing random dudes naked and stuff takes a lot from the hotness of the scenes for me, unless it's group sex. So playing as Futa, trans or a girl having fun with other futa or girls is much hotter than seeing a dude mc in action. So many games are too focused on a dude too much instead of women's beauty. How is seeing a dude getting a bj appealing? My favorite game is Treasure of Nadia but its mainly due to all the group and lesbian scenes in it, also super beautiful women. If the mc was futa in that game it would've been even better.
 

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Damn, how are there barely any games like this? As a guy I'm attracted to women of many types. I'm not too good at self insert thing so playing as a male character and seeing random dudes naked and stuff takes a lot from the hotness of the scenes for me, unless it's group sex. So playing as Futa, trans or a girl having fun with other futa or girls is much hotter than seeing a dude mc in action. So many games are too focused on a dude too much instead of women's beauty. How is seeing a dude getting a bj appealing? My favorite game is Treasure of Nadia but its mainly due to all the group and lesbian scenes in it, also super beautiful women. If the mc was futa in that game it would've been even better.
I set "male protag" on exclude in search. There is really good stuff out there.
 
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Damn, how are there barely any games like this? As a guy I'm attracted to women of many types. I'm not too good at self insert thing so playing as a male character and seeing random dudes naked and stuff takes a lot from the hotness of the scenes for me, unless it's group sex. So playing as Futa, trans or a girl having fun with other futa or girls is much hotter than seeing a dude mc in action. So many games are too focused on a dude too much instead of women's beauty. How is seeing a dude getting a bj appealing? My favorite game is Treasure of Nadia but its mainly due to all the group and lesbian scenes in it, also super beautiful women. If the mc was futa in that game it would've been even better.
That is usually my explanation to friends/members on why I also enjoy this futa protag game and the 2 other that are in my signature, I really enjoy the female figure. The MCs are much better to look at (and I also never self insert too much on the MCs but I still do a bit since this games are interactive with a few choices, most of the time is similar than watching a movie/show or even read an illustrated book) but I understand that some don't enjoy lesbian scenes because they feel "blueballed". I think it is hot to watch and admire the feminine figure and I don't feel the need of "release" every time a sex scene in AVNs appear :LOL:.

But to each their own, everyone is intitled to enjoy this medium as they see fit, it is just the too easy/pointless complaints and "bitching" about this games that sometimes annoy and bother me.
 
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