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LSC82

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We don't have a proof that it is Santiago, we just saw a big Picture of a Wedding, we know she is married, but that is no proof at all, It might be Santiago, or just another random man.
And It doesn't add up, Santiago is married since a few yrs to Adriana to a point where her daughter, call him Dad instead of Stepdad or use just the first name when refering to him.
I think she was married(currently no longer married) to someone else and had an affair with Santiago.
Santiago was her agent coming out of high school, not sure when their relationship started.

Gabi hoped Santiago would ditch his family to be with her, but this never happened.
 

valbitterb

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I'm not so sure about this one. I don't think that she saw him that way or that the attraction really started for Lexi until she saw him while saying goodbye to Lakeyn and then on the plane. The fact that he happened to also be Erynn's neighbor and childhood best friend was a coincidence, some might say an unfortunate one for her.
As I've said before, when you are older a 3 year age difference is nothing. But when you are 16, dating a 13 year old or even looking at a 13 year old that way is just a....no. I usually have to say this in defense of Erynn and the MC's "confession" but I think that the same applies to Lexi as she was also 16.
Thanks for the correction on Lexi. I forgot that she really didn't like him back when they were younger.

Thanks for the course correction on the underage issue that my post unintentionally implied. My mistake.

Regarding Alexis i fall more in this camp, she wasn't into him when he kissed her and she wasn't about to start a relationship with him had he stayed in town.

She says she looks fondly upon that kiss nowadays, but i interpreted that as "the guy that gave me my first kiss is now my BF, that's cute", but she wasn't happy when it happened, he was veeeeery far from being her crush back then...
There's a reason they don't recognize each other right away, they never spoke to each other all that much, Erynn even points this out when she has her confrontation with Alexis.
Same as above, and thanks for more context on Lexi and the MC.
 
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Dessolos

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My interpretation of the kiss from Lexi was she didn't like the MC until after the kiss but wasn't until she was older and how often Erynn talked about him she started to like him more than a crush.
 
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My interpretation of the kiss from Lexi was she didn't like the MC until after the kiss but wasn't until she was older and how often Erynn talked about him she started to like him more than a crush.
I don't think that's accurate either... it was just an innocent thing, didn't mean too much for either of them at the time. Now that they are together it's a fond memory, but at the time it wasn't really anything. And I don't think Lexi did dig him before meeting on the plane, she didn't even remember him until he mentioned Erynn.
 
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My interpretation of the kiss from Lexi was she didn't like the MC until after the kiss but wasn't until she was older and how often Erynn talked about him she started to like him more than a crush.
Yeah, Erynn's fawning over how great he was during the absence, coupled with her witnessing MC gifting Erynn a flower, which nobody had done or has done for her, clearly influenced Lexi's opinion.

Once she realised who he was on the plane, that the great guy who "stole" her first kiss was seated right next to her, the stars aligned and fate was telling her something.
 

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Yea while I think thats a good story now for their relationship, I don't think Alexis was too happy about MC being her first kiss at the time, she was just trying to console MC after what happened when that happened.

Im going to get controversial and say I don't even think Erynn was romantically into MC at that point, she wasn't going to humiliate him, but I don't think she was dreaming about his being her boyfriend either. The past is just romanticized because MC moved away for a while and recently returned.
 

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Yea while I think thats a good story now for their relationship, I don't think Alexis was too happy about MC being her first kiss at the time, she was just trying to console MC after what happened when that happened.

Im going to get controversial and say I don't even think Erynn was romantically into MC at that point, she wasn't going to humiliate him, but I don't think she was dreaming about his being her boyfriend either. The past is just romanticized because MC moved away for a while and recently returned.
yeah I think Erynn just saw him as a good friend but also someone that was too young to think about seriously. It was only after he was gone and how shit Ethan was to her that she started to miss him more than normal and fall for him.
 

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Yea while I think thats a good story now for their relationship, I don't think Alexis was too happy about MC being her first kiss at the time, she was just trying to console MC after what happened when that happened.

Im going to get controversial and say I don't even think Erynn was romantically into MC at that point, she wasn't going to humiliate him, but I don't think she was dreaming about his being her boyfriend either. The past is just romanticized because MC moved away for a while and recently returned.
Yup, it's "cute" now that the story came full circle, but they felt nothing for each other at the time.

And yeah, Erynn was very surprised by the declaration... she had no such thoughts regarding him, to her he was just the little boy next door.

I'll even say that from the perspective of an Erynn romance the 5 year break was a positive, for her to stop seeing him as the little boy next door and more like a man.
And the fact that he wanted her all those years ago, there's always that "does he still feel like that?" Question in the air.
 

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Yea while I think thats a good story now for their relationship, I don't think Alexis was too happy about MC being her first kiss at the time, she was just trying to console MC after what happened when that happened.

Im going to get controversial and say I don't even think Erynn was romantically into MC at that point, she wasn't going to humiliate him, but I don't think she was dreaming about his being her boyfriend either. The past is just romanticized because MC moved away for a while and recently returned.
Which is only fair and realistic. There arent a lot of 15 or 16 yo girls who fall in love with guys who are 3+ years younger lol, the maturity levels are entirely different at this age but it is still a fun setup for their relationship nowadays with both Erynn and Lexi imo.
 

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My interpretation of the kiss from Lexi was she didn't like the MC until after the kiss but wasn't until she was older and how often Erynn talked about him she started to like him more than a crush.
erynn and lexi 3some in version 15. :p
 

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Which is only fair and realistic. There arent a lot of 15 or 16 yo girls who fall in love with guys who are 3+ years younger lol, the maturity levels are entirely different at this age but it is still a fun setup for their relationship nowadays with both Erynn and Lexi imo.
yeah, that ain't happening between a 13 year old guy and 16 year old girl, at least it's fucking rare. Sure, cute declaration of love or whatever, but unrealistic. 18 and 21 is a different story. There is still a gap, but it's way smaller.
 
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yeah, that ain't happening between a 13 year old guy and 16 year old girl, at least it's fucking rare. Sure, cute declaration of love or whatever, but unrealistic. 18 and 21 is a different story. There is still a gap, but it's way smaller.
some 13 years old or younger have gotten their teachers preggo, even in god bless murica.
 

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And yeah, Erynn was very surprised by the declaration... she had no such thoughts regarding him, to her he was just the little boy next door.

I'll even say that from the perspective of an Erynn romance the 5 year break was a positive, for her to stop seeing him as the little boy next door and more like a man.
And the fact that he wanted her all those years ago, there's always that "does he still feel like that?" Question in the air.
I think that Erynn does/did love the MC, but back then it was more of a sibling love for her. There are a few times in the game where I question that though. During the confrontation with Lexi, Erynn says "But you know how I feel about him!" "You know how much I missed him and how happy I am that he's back" and implies that only Lexi knows her feelings about the MC.
I agree that the 5 year break was a positive for their relationship to take a romantic turn. As hard as it was for them, it was necessary.
 

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I think that Erynn does/did love the MC, but back then it was more of a sibling love for her. There are a few times in the game where I question that though. During the confrontation with Lexi, Erynn says "But you know how I feel about him!" "You know how much I missed him and how happy I am that he's back" and implies that only Lexi knows her feelings about the MC.
I agree that the 5 year break was a positive for their relationship to take a romantic turn. As hard as it was for them, it was necessary.
You're right, it was more of a sibling type love, but as the saying goes "Absence makes the heart grow fonder".

I don't think only Lexi knows how she feels though, Mel probably does and I suspect Ethan too, which is why he's antagonising MC after returning. Erynn never cared about him as much as she did MC, so he starts manipulating Zach to betray his oldest friend.
 

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I think that Erynn does/did love the MC, but back then it was more of a sibling love for her. There are a few times in the game where I question that though. During the confrontation with Lexi, Erynn says "But you know how I feel about him!" "You know how much I missed him and how happy I am that he's back" and implies that only Lexi knows her feelings about the MC.
I agree that the 5 year break was a positive for their relationship to take a romantic turn. As hard as it was for them, it was necessary.
The 5 year break allows her to see him in a different light now that he's grown up, had they kept being neighbors it may have been harder for her to see him in this fashion.

I think even though she thought of him as a brother, that declaration in the backyard stuck with her(and she probably talked about with Alexis, before and after the MC coming back into town, so Alexis knows).
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They talked about things since Erynn also knows about the stolen kiss.

You're right, it was more of a sibling type love, but as the saying goes "Absence makes the heart grow fonder".

I don't think only Lexi knows how she feels though, Mel probably does and I suspect Ethan too, which is why he's antagonising MC after returning. Erynn never cared about him as much as she did MC, so he starts manipulating Zach to betray his oldest friend.
Melissa knows even if Erynn never told her anything, simply mother intuition, she keeps pushing and teasing for them to get together, so she believes this is what her daughter wants, even if she doesn't vocalize it.

Ethan disliked the MC since he was a little boy, saw him as constantly getting in the way of his plans of conquering Erynn... and probably knows that the adult MC presents twice the problem.
 

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But when you are 16, dating a 13 year old or even looking at a 13 year old that way is just a....no. I usually have to say this in defense of Erynn and the MC's "confession" but I think that the same applies to Lexi as she was also 16.
Was actually dating one but to be fair, looked no where near my age.
Being taller then her wasn't just the case, worked out 3x a day.
Not unheard of when two genuinely long for each others company.

Sometimes most unplanned odd things can happen between friends.
 
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