Mravac Kid

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disclaimer - I'm not a lawyer. I'd love to hear an attorney weigh in.

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The reason I suspect this is because from 20 years ago is quite clear on SCOTUS's stance towards fictional digital recreations of otherwise childlike characters.
I'm not a lawyer either, and I'd say the lawyers have been battling this one out for quite a while with no clear solution in sight, with the line of separation between 3D and reality fading more and more. At what point do we decide enough is enough?
As for this case, seems to me it was ruled because the examples didn't actually show any explicit sexual activity, which is something these games quite literally do.

In the end, it all boils down to that line, and as Patreon and similar services are businesses, they are covering their asses for the inevitable event of the line disappearing.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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I'm not a lawyer either, and I'd say the lawyers have been battling this one out for quite a while with no clear solution in sight, with the line of separation between 3D and reality fading more and more. At what point do we decide enough is enough?
I'm saying I don't think this is the case. A clear legal distinction exists in 2256 between "identifiable minors" and fiction. To me, this makes perfect sense, e.g. making deepfake pr0n of a real child, even though it's a fake digital creation would be illegal. The separation is whether it resembles an actual person's likeness. Again, any lawyer that would correct me on this interpretation, I'd welcome.
As for this case, seems to me it was ruled because the examples didn't actually show any explicit sexual activity, which is something these games quite literally do.
The Ashcroft decision was NOT contigent on the amount or degree of sexual activity depicted. From the Ashcroft wiki:
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"Ferber" here refers to an earlier case.

There's 2 motivations which are often blurred together in enforcing action against **. One is to prevent harm to real children. The other is a sort of 'moral policing' of behavior that's seen as reprehensible by the majority. I have no interest in loli stuff myself. But I think while the first motivation is quite commendable, the second is fickle and often subjective. And those writing these laws aren't stupid, in many cases the distinction is accounted for. (Some of this may be confusing to a person from mainland Europe, where expression laws come with more caveats)

I'll hush up now, please, resume the 16-18 year old Ivy debates. :LOL:
 
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Itfeelsreel

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No harem or best way
Choose your favourite girl or 1 girl
Choose 2 you will lose both
Well... unless you choose two then pretend you didn't using the universal mod or similar...

I mean, sure it may be immersion breaking getting 'hi MC this is ..' instead 'OMG YOUR DOING BOTH OF US', but convenient recollection or loss of specific memories is already an in use plot device so meh.
 

Dessolos

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I was determined to do an Alexis playthrough! And then I met Valeria....
Just do both Val doesn't have that much content yet and doubt you will get caught cheating on Alexis anytime soon. So Id day you have time to do both in 1 run and maybe slowly make solo path saves later.
 
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sampow

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Quick question for the local aficionados, if you chase more than one girl at a time in this game, are you gonna get fucked (in a bad way)? I like the "string them along for as long as you can before you have to get serious" approach, but of course that can often lead to the aforementioned, figurative fucking. Just like to be forewarned. :sneaky:
 

c.mork

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Quick question for the local aficionados, if you chase more than one girl at a time in this game, are you gonna get fucked (in a bad way)? I like the "string them along for as long as you can before you have to get serious" approach, but of course that can often lead to the aforementioned, figurative fucking. Just like to be forewarned. :sneaky:
Well it's not a harem game, and not like badik either with a convenient decision point. Technically you can juggle some specific girls so far without consequences, but can't promise it won't all crash and burn. So 1 girl per playthrough is recommended. Or string them along as far as you can and make a branching save.
 

SerHawkes

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Well it's not a harem game, and not like badik either with a convenient decision point. Technically you can juggle some specific girls so far without consequences, but can't promise it won't all crash and burn. So 1 girl per playthrough is recommended. Or string them along as far as you can and make a branching save.
Melissa is the true chosen one. Everyone else don't matter... Expect for Val. She is the lone expection.
 

soprano31

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Quick question for the local aficionados, if you chase more than one girl at a time in this game, are you gonna get fucked (in a bad way)? I like the "string them along for as long as you can before you have to get serious" approach, but of course that can often lead to the aforementioned, figurative fucking. Just like to be forewarned. :sneaky:
This is what happens when you are with Layla and Alexis at the same time and they find out..
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valbitterb

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I was going to say something but the picture has made me lose my train of thought...... breasts. Anyway that sure is a good render.
I thought Val's ass during the underwear swap was already great, but then this wet t-shirt tease moment ... whooooo ...
 
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