anonnyscouse

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Finished the Alexis path, and meh. It's just all sex all the time. I know this is a sex game, but that shit gets boring after a while. You know that they have too much sex when Nyx has to give Alexis a period just to stop them from fucking, and even then, MC gets a blowjob. The only thing of interest is that Alexis's parents know Santi is Mc's father.
That came from Alexis being originally a one-time fuck like Julia for example, but then Nyx decided to expand her role, and after joining the mile-high club after a few minutes of talking she couldn't really dial Alexis back to being more reluctant to have sex, and MC is a teenage boy, he's never going to turn down the chance to fuck his girlfriend.

As for her parents knowing about Santi, we already knew that Adri knew because she was around when the whole Emily/Santi/Andres thing was going on like Mel was, obviously we didn't know her father knew too, until it was confirmed that the father was Enzo and that he was friends with Santi. But I'm not sure if it matters whether it was one parent knowing or both parents knowing.
 

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Even if that is an implied case of Santi being Val's dad then Nyx would have to kill the LI path. She's already said no incest, hard stop. Having the customer yell out a drink order to interrupt Lexi saying 'he's my Dad...' was pretty clever. But I don't think it'll be able to work more times than that one.

With how much Nyx worked Val into the core of the story branch with Ethan, and the effort she put into Val's dates in the newest update, I'd be surprised to see the brakes suddenly pumped and path killed off. It could happen, absolutely, but then there were a lot of wasted cycles on this update that could have instead been used on other LIs or progressing the Ethan story.
Yea you are right about that. It just seems like it could be possible only due to a few pieces of information that may not actually fall into place for Santi to be her dad. Val's dad and her mom never getting married. Her aversion to being in a love triangle kind of situation as she saw a similar situation happen before (vaguely mentioned when she wants you to break up with Alexis if you want to continue to date her). Couple that with the fact that Gabi seemingly has some relationship issues with Santi, and the fact that she might also have pictures with Val's mom in her home (which could relate to a friendship that either broke down or maybe they are still friends). Also, iirc Gabi seems wary of Val for some reason as evidenced by her look near the pool during training camp.

There are some assumptions on my part in order for this to be true, but it seems like it could be a possibility. I don't know if what I explained makes sense to anyone. And I am likely wrong about this. I hope I am wrong. Val is my favorite. Would hate for things to be that way.
 

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Gabi seemingly has some relationship issues with Santi
Wait, Santi is Gabi's husband? When was this revealed? I know in scene if you have drunk sex with Gabi you can see her husband's picture next day but im not sure that is Santi or is it? Damn if true then i technically banged my stepmom
 

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Wait, Santi is Gabi's husband? When was this revealed? I know in scene if you have drunk sex with Gabi you can see her husband's picture next day but im not sure that is Santi or is it? Damn if true then i technically banged my stepmom
It's a theory for some, but it's not revealed/confirmed. The big wedding picture could be brother/sister (but won't be because of incest), husband and wife (again, could cause issues with Patreon incest rules), boyfriend/girlfriend, or maybe just close friends. Presuming it is definitely Santi in the photo, of course. The size and prominence of the photo does suggest a more intimate relationship though.
 
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It's a theory for some, but it's not revealed/confirmed. The big wedding picture could be brother/sister (but won't be because of incest), husband and wife (again, could cause issues with Patreon incest rules), boyfriend/girlfriend, or maybe just close friends. Presuming it is definitely Santi in the photo, of course. The size and prominence of the photo does suggest a more intimate relationship though.
Just went back to check, Santi and the dude in big picture really do look very much alike. Could be some interesting developments there in the future if you went full on Gabi's path (which in all my playthroughs so far i always broke it of with her in the training camp because i didn't want to lose points with Layla, Elena or Val so i don't really have full picture of her path)
 

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Im guessing that iris's new hair color will be the winner of a patreon poll. Hopefully they pick a good color.

I Tho I kind of did like the few conversations they had without sex in this especially when you run into her cousin and pretend she is cheating and doesn't know you haha. I am hoping for the return of Red Wig with the costume party tho.
That scene was weird to me. She went from trying to hook them up to being horrified that they were actually trying to hook up. I'm guessing she hates NTR as much as others on this site.

That costume party is the one thing Im looking forward to on this path.
 

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Wait, Santi is Gabi's husband? When was this revealed? I know in scene if you have drunk sex with Gabi you can see her husband's picture next day but im not sure that is Santi or is it? Damn if true then i technically banged my stepmom
it's a plausible theory. The pic in the bedroom looked like him. We know he was at the track competition, and Gabi was upset about her husband, who from context of that phone call went there too and didn't even bother meeting her. Then you have the Ximena/Gabi convo at the restaurant about how the MC reminds her of "him", referring to Gabi's husband which irritates her coz they don't have a good relationship. Still not a 100% but it's possible.
 

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Even English translations of Japanese results all mention relationships you just don't know the definition and have an idiotic idea that any sex not involving the MC is NTR when that's clearly not the case and you can't admit you are wrong.
There would not be works with moms, sister, or childhood crushes if the defining trait would be ongoing romantic relationship, any emotional attachment to characters that would subsequently lead to turmoil of the main character and by proxy the audience, be it self insert, or roleplay seems to qualify for the nippons. MC' school bully fucking his mom, regardless of the lack of incest is still a NTR story. But who are we kidding, we are going to argue semantics till kingdom come... For whatever reason the complainers about the complainers can't figure out that if you manage to avoid a tag, that doesn't mean shit, the person is not going to magically change his feelings about a scene/character.

If they tell you they hate apples, they are allergic to it, it makes them sick and then you come and show them that what they hate are not apples, are pears and you show them proof of that, what do you expect it will happen? Do you expect him to now be ok with eating apples(pears)? Enjoy them?

The only thing that matters is what is the narrative purpose of a scene, what is the target audience for a scene like that, what kinda emotional reactions is expected? You can call it whatever you want, NTR, voyeurism, the Easter Bunny. If I can accept the complainers are stupid, I at least expect the Japanese scholars educating others on the topic to understand this simple concept.

But, even if you have no problem, or hell, enjoy that sort of scene, I want you to admit to me that is a complete waste of dev time for this game, in the longest dev cycle so far, mind you.
'dRaMa wItH Quinn MeLlIssa', let me offer you a cost/time effective alternative with the exact same result in the story.
I went on a date with John, we hit it off so well that we ended up spending the night together. I didn't know he was your John, I am sorry!
Zero need for a fully animated sex scene and reading about his giant dick, but we all know it was done on purpose, to rile the exact people you are now trying to gaslight, downplay and Strowman.

Lmao :KEK: I would not be surprised if they report her Patreon for Incest out of spite, would I want it? No, its one of the few games I still keep up with, would I find it hilarious if they get enough reports to get a human review after she not only continued the incest baiting, but dialed it up in the last 2 episodes, with MC keep seeing her naked and starting to have impure thoughts, absolutely, Nyx and her petty joke is past the fuck around and find out threshold, especially with the new draconian Patreon rules.


Still not done with the update, but I knew I was gonna find a shit show after seeing the scene. :Kappa:Giving reddit karama to whoever teaches me how to fix the 'not defined' variable errors with URM, I don't want to start a new save every episode.
 
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Why the fuck would you make us watch some other guy have sex? Motherfucking asshole dev!
I'm THIS close to deleting the whole game now ...
You couldn't even put up a choice if we wanted to see that or not?? I'm seriously tempted to leave a 2-star review.
There was a choice.
 
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I did NOT get a fucking choice, but that MAY just have been one of the 43 times the game bugs out in this update and I have to press "ignore" to continue.
Bugridden piece of shit ...
Go away no one wants your foolishness herZ ive found one bug in the whole game and nyx already fixed it. Is you name Karen and are you 11 years old?
 
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Not only can you skip the mom's sex scene, but you also have the option not to have sex altogether. If you still had to watch despite being given, two chances to avoid it, that's on you.

Finished the Alexis path, and meh. It's just all sex all the time. I know this is a sex game, but that shit gets boring after a while. You know that they have too much sex when Nyx has to give Alexis a period just to stop them from fucking, and even then, MC gets a blowjob. The only thing of interest is that Alexis's parents know Santi is Mc's father.
I disagree they make a great couple and their interactions are so much fun. Yes sex is a big part of their relationship but there is so much more there between them
 

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I see Andres as flawed. Sure he raised someone else's kid and that's a selfless act but he's also a womanizer and has a temper. We see him keep secrets from the MC, argue with the MC multiple times, and finally have a physical altercation with the MC that pretty much severs their relationship. Then there's the whole ultimatum thing with Emily that should never have happened in the first place. The fact you spot him in ep13 makes me think his role in the story isn't over yet, either.
I mean, Andres gave Emily an ultimatum, to stop contacting Santi and he'll raise her kid. He had zero right to ask that.

Then we get on to the cheating on Haley (probably Emily too), which all winds up in him assaulting MC.

Fuck that guy.
Are you two for real? The guy that's willing to help her raise her kid, doesn't get to set conditions?

"I'm willing to help you raise your kid, but I will only do so if I can raise him as my own"
"I'm willing to shelter and raise that same kid for 5 years on my own, even after we've broken up"

That guy?

The "I can't get you to actually fall in love with me, but I'm willing to basically do anything for you" guy retroactively gets turned into an asshole and a womaniser. Everything up to that point is Andres being a stand up guy, albeit clumsy in matters of romance at least when it comes to Emily.

Who after 12/13(?) years says he can't do it anymore, especially not with her seeing her baby daddy ex behind his back.

Even if what Emily says is true "I only met up with him to chat about the kid we had together, the kid he wanted nothing to do with. Not to bang him, okay?" that's still reasonable from Andres' side. I don't want you meeting up with the baby daddy who didn't want to raise the kid, she does anyway repeatedly, Andres conclusion "She's cheating on me", is true even if it is only in an emotional sense.

Compare that to the two others:
- Santi walks out on the relationship and the baby, providing literally no support in any way shape or form.
- Santi's parents show up to buy off Emily or tell her to get an abortion
- Emily is willing to start dating someone she has no romantic interest in just so he will help her out.
- Emily starts seeing her ex behind his back to "just talk about the child they have together" the bio dad has shown no interest in
- Emily who juggled two men and hooked up with Mel at the same time.
- Emily sends off her bio kid to her ex because she can't handle him herself. The ex who is not the bio dad and has broken up with her for the previous point.
- Emily is no contact with MC for those 5 years, save for 1 time she tried to see him. (revealed later)
- Emily who at the first opportunity throws "he's not your dad" in MCs face, after being 'caught' with Mel. (someone who raised a kid for 18 years, is far more of a dad than someone who walked out after he knocked someone up)
- Emily for who all reconciliation first comes from the MC. (it is the MC who initiates this every time, at least to my recollection. But this is a small point and I'm not sure about the accuracy)

Andres got swapped into someone else entirely with the cheating subplot. You don't go from raising someone else's kid, even without that person to "Oh yeah I'm just a womaniser who cheats on my new fiancee and punches the kid I raised as my own". I know Nyx frames it this way deliberately to make Emily look good, but from a neutral perspective based on the facts it really doesn't make a lick of sense.

I get that Andres is the less attractive and fun person out of the 3, but he is by far a better human being than Santi and Emily. At the very least far less selfish.
 
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There would not be works with moms, sister, or childhood crushes if the defining trait would be ongoing romantic relationship, any emotional attachment to characters that would subsequently lead to turmoil of the main character and by proxy the audience, be it self insert, or roleplay seems to qualify for the nippons. MC' school bully fucking his mom, regardless of the lack of incest is still a NTR story. But who are we kidding, we are going to argue semantics till kingdom come... For whatever reason the complainers about the complainers can't figure out that if you manage to avoid a tag, that doesn't mean shit, the person is not going to magically change his feelings about a scene/character.

If they tell you they hate apples, they are allergic to it, it makes them sick and then you come and show them that what they hate are not apples, are pears and you show them proof of that, what do you expect it will happen? Do you expect him to now be ok with eating apples(pears)? Enjoy them?

The only thing that matters is what is the narrative purpose of a scene, what is the target audience for a scene like that, what kinda emotional reactions is expected? You can call it whatever you want, NTR, voyeurism, the Easter Bunny. If I can accept the complainers are stupid, I at least expect the Japanese scholars educating others on the topic to understand this simple concept.

But, even if you have no problem, or hell, enjoy that sort of scene, I want you to admit to me that is a complete waste of dev time for this game, in the longest dev cycle so far, mind you.
'dRaMa wItH Quinn MeLlIssa', let me offer you a cost/time effective alternative with the exact same result in the story.
Zero need for a fully animated sex scene and reading about his giant dick, but we all know it was done on purpose, to rile the exact people you are now trying to gaslight, downplay and Strowman.

Lmao :KEK: I would not be surprised if they report her Patreon for Incest out of spite, would I want it? No, its one of the few games I still keep up with, would I find it hilarious if they get enough reports to get a human review after she not only continued the incest baiting, but dialed it up in the last 2 episodes, with MC keep seeing her naked and starting to have impure thoughts, absolutely, Nyx and her petty joke is past the fuck around and find out threshold, especially with the new draconian Patreon rules.


Still not done with the update, but I knew I was gonna find a shit show after seeing the scene. :Kappa:Giving reddit karama to whoever teaches me how to fix the 'not defined' variable errors with URM, I don't want to start a new save every episode.
You really put that much into that scene my god . Are you 11 years old? Everything you said is 100 percent off the track and shows you are unable to comprehend anything
 
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I get that Andres is the less attractive and fun person out of the 3, but he is by far a better human being than Santi and Emily. At the very least far less selfish.
I'm willing to bet that it was his parents who made him do it and Santi regrets having let himself be persuaded. In short, he will get away with it easily.
 

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I'm willing to bet that it was his parents who made him do it and Santi regrets having let himself be persuaded. In short, he will get away with it easily.
You're probably right, but I hope people here understand that even if that was the case. Santi still chose to do nothing for 18 years.

That's not a singular mistake that's 18 years of inaction. No matter how handsome, charming and successful he is. He shouldn't come off looking good in any way, shape or form.

But likely Nyx will frame this as "it's all the fault of Andres". So both Santi and Emily don't look like the actual shitty parents they are/were. (Emily obviously to a far lesser degree than Santi)
 
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